Fears about Fawley
SIMPLY known as "Fawley", the oil
refinery has been a landmark on
the western shore of Southampton
Water for 87 years and generations
of Hampshire residents have spent
their working lives at the giant plant.
For residents living on the edge of the New
Forest and across the water at Hamble and
Netley, the main cause for concern has been
the occasional chemical-like smell,
depending on the direction the wind blows.
Which is why the exclusive Daily Echo
report on a damning health and safety
investigation into Britain's biggest refinery
- which processes 300,000 barrels of crude
oil a day - has come as such a shock.
The leaked Health and Safety Executive
(HSE) report revealed workers' fears that a
major accident could occur at Fawley
because of ageing infrastructure, poor
maintenance, under-reporting of incidents
and a workplace "blame culture".
Site owners Esso and ExxonMobil were
quick to reject claims that Fawley was
unsafe and said the refinery was the safest
in the country. However, ramifications have
been felt as far away as Texas, the home of
parent company Exxon Mobil -
which was last year ranked the
world's most profitable company.
Business reporters in Dallas
told the Echo they were
surprised the findings were ever
made public, describing Exxon
Mobil as "a fortress".
Information leaks from the
petroleum giant - which makes a
staggering £2.5m per hour - are
largely unheard of in the States
and its business practices are a
closely guarded secret.
Jen Parker, from the powerful
union UNITE, which represents
300 Fawley employees, said a
reason for this was that workers at
Exxon Mobil's American refineries
were not unionised.
Click here to read the full safety report into Fawley
Ms Parker said UNITE had only
won recognition at Fawley after a
lengthy battle last year, while Bob
Stokes, from GMB, said his union's
relationship with Esso and
ExxonMobil had diminished in
recent years.
While the HSE report largely focused on
workers' anger at poor morale and what
they see as inadequate staffing levels,
endemic overtime and ad hoc training, there
was also a fear among some that cost-cutting
had made the site dangerous.
There was even an expectation that a
major accident would occur and one worker
told inspectors that they "would not bat an
eyelid if the refinery blew up".
Mr Stokes, a former Fawley employee,
echoed these concerns: "Not only have I worked there but I also live close to the site.
If there were to be a major disaster in there,
the consequences could be tremendous for
the surrounding area."
The 2005 Buncefield oil depot disaster in
Hertfordshire, the largest fire in Europe
since the Second World War, has prompted
refinery operators and local authorities
across the country to rewrite their
emergency plans.
The scale of the blaze - caused when a
tank of petrol overflowed, forming a vapour
cloud that then exploded - was far greater
than any worst-scenario predictions.
Ron Goddard, emergency planning officer
from Hampshire County Council, said the
Fawley off-site emergency plan was in the
process of being rewritten and was likely to
take into consideration a greater area
surrounding Fawley which could be affected
by a major accident.
Councillor Michael Wade, chairman of
New Forest District Council's
environmental protection liaison committee,
said Esso and ExxonMobil had always
"come across as a professional outfit" who
"care about the environment and the place
they operate in", and was shocked to learn
that some workers thought the plant was
unsafe.
"It's all new to us," he said. "We only
learned about it in the Daily Echo. We had
no idea that there are any of those issues
there.
"That's not something we've seen
personally on our visits to the site in the
couple of times I've been there, and nobody
has ever talked about it before because it's
not been raised as an issue.
"Now that it's been raised as an issue they
are really duty-bound to answer it.
"If there were a major explosion there
would be an element (of residents) affected
in the ward I represent. Let's hope that
never happens."
New Forest District Council leader Mel
Kendal said the findings should not be
"cause for alarm", but said the situation
would be closely monitored by the council's
environmental health officers.
"We know that they have a good safety
record and that they are a good employer.
Nevertheless, we want to make sure that
their lines of communication are open for
their employees who feel that there are
matters of concern," he said.
The HSE has given refinery bosses until
June 3 to draw up an action plan addressing
their workers' concerns.
3:51pm Sunday 11th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: paul b on 4:25pm Sun 11 May 08
This is about the 4th non story on this issue now.
As for the bloody locals, they knew the site was there when they moved in, its been there longer.
If they complain they should be ignored
This is about the 4th non story on this issue now.
As for the bloody locals, they knew the site was there when they moved in, its been there longer.
If they complain they should be ignored
Posted by: Ex employee on 6:43pm Sun 11 May 08
I agree, I worked there for 15 years, before leaving due to boredom/fear of dying of cancer.
Life is so much better away from that place. Yes theres a risk, but isn't there always?
Get over it.
I agree, I worked there for 15 years, before leaving due to boredom/fear of dying of cancer.
Life is so much better away from that place. Yes theres a risk, but isn't there always?
Get over it.
Posted by: SHeitma Pance, Soton on 8:16pm Sun 11 May 08
It's just the Unions scaremongering so that they can justify a strike. They'll only return to work when a huge pay rise has been granted.
It's just the Unions scaremongering so that they can justify a strike. They'll only return to work when a huge pay rise has been granted.
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 8:22pm Sun 11 May 08
[quote][bold]SHeitma Pance[/bold] wrote:
It\'s just the Unions scaremongering so that they can justify a strike. They\'ll only return to work when a huge pay rise has been granted.[/quote] Change the record..you're fast becoming a witless bore.
SHeitma Pance wrote:
It\'s just the Unions scaremongering so that they can justify a strike. They\'ll only return to work when a huge pay rise has been granted.
Change the record..you're fast becoming a witless bore.
Posted by: Andy, Locks Heath on 7:50am Mon 12 May 08
Surely the point about Buncefield ("greater than any worst scenario prediction")was that there was relatively little damage outside the site perimeter. Even Northgate's large office next door was not massively damaged. Using Buncefield as a template the worst anyone in Holbury on the other side of the A326 need fear is a few cracked windows. Very Large quantities of liquid fuel do not explode - and looking at an aerial photograph it seems that the really explosive chemicals - LPG, propane etc are stored on the seaward side of the site. Local politicians don;t have the calibre to be objective about this. Worse still once the chief vote hoover and job destroyer Julian Lewis gets a sniff of it you can be sure that facts and common sense will go right out of the window!
Surely the point about Buncefield ("greater than any worst scenario prediction")was that there was relatively little damage outside the site perimeter. Even Northgate's large office next door was not massively damaged. Using Buncefield as a template the worst anyone in Holbury on the other side of the A326 need fear is a few cracked windows. Very Large quantities of liquid fuel do not explode - and looking at an aerial photograph it seems that the really explosive chemicals - LPG, propane etc are stored on the seaward side of the site. Local politicians don;t have the calibre to be objective about this. Worse still once the chief vote hoover and job destroyer Julian Lewis gets a sniff of it you can be sure that facts and common sense will go right out of the window!
Posted by: Sceptic, Waterside on 10:46am Mon 12 May 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
Surely the point about Buncefield ("greater than any worst scenario prediction")was that there was relatively little damage outside the site perimeter. Even Northgate's large office next door was not massively damaged. Using Buncefield as a template the worst anyone in Holbury on the other side of the A326 need fear is a few cracked windows. Very Large quantities of liquid fuel do not explode - and looking at an aerial photograph it seems that the really explosive chemicals - LPG, propane etc are stored on the seaward side of the site. Local politicians don;t have the calibre to be objective about this. Worse still once the chief vote hoover and job destroyer Julian Lewis gets a sniff of it you can be sure that facts and common sense will go right out of the window![/quote] Andy..look up H2S on the net. It knocks out your sense of smell and then kills you..all at very low ppm. There is lots of this gas on the Fawley site. Us locals know that its unlikely to be an explosion that kills us..it the gases that are the major concern!
Andy wrote:
Surely the point about Buncefield ("greater than any worst scenario prediction")was that there was relatively little damage outside the site perimeter. Even Northgate's large office next door was not massively damaged. Using Buncefield as a template the worst anyone in Holbury on the other side of the A326 need fear is a few cracked windows. Very Large quantities of liquid fuel do not explode - and looking at an aerial photograph it seems that the really explosive chemicals - LPG, propane etc are stored on the seaward side of the site. Local politicians don;t have the calibre to be objective about this. Worse still once the chief vote hoover and job destroyer Julian Lewis gets a sniff of it you can be sure that facts and common sense will go right out of the window!
Andy..look up H2S on the net. It knocks out your sense of smell and then kills you..all at very low ppm. There is lots of this gas on the Fawley site. Us locals know that its unlikely to be an explosion that kills us..it the gases that are the major concern!
Posted by: tom, up my bosses a..... on 4:41pm Wed 14 May 08
dangerous gasses!?! you obviously have never met my mum!
dangerous gasses!?! you obviously have never met my mum!
Posted by: John, Office Block on 3:52pm Wed 28 May 08
Chemical Site
- Hazards
- Scaremongering
- Unions
- HSE
[italic][bold]Whats new?[/bold][/italic]
Chemical Site
- Hazards
- Scaremongering
- Unions
- HSE
Whats new?
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