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SAINTS chairman Leon Crouch has told Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde they are "deluding themselves" if they think they should return to the St Mary's boardroom.
Crouch also believes fans won't be "fooled or conned" by either of the former Saints supremos.
His stinging attack comes after the Daily Echo exclusively revealed last week Lowe and Wilde had formed an unlikely alliance in a bid to return to power.
The club announced to the Stock Exchange last week Lowe, who with Wilde is thought to represent 46 per cent of the club's shareholding, had contacted them.
Crouch has blasted the duo's timing, with the season reaching such a critical stage.
"I think both of them are deluding themselves if they feel this is the right time to come back," he said.
"It is a very unwelcome approach and a distraction from what is obviously the most important thing for Southampton, which is getting them into a safe position in the league.
"Both of them have had their opportunities.
"Rupert Lowe had ten years and ten managers.
"He did get us relegated and for the first year in the Championship the club was hovering around the relegation zone for long periods.
"Michael Wilde came in and promised investors and his own money and he failed to deliver.
"I don't think the fans will be fooled or conned by them."
For full story see today's Daily Echo.
7:00am Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:19am Thu 27 Mar 08
Can someone refresh my memory! Is this the same Leon Crouch that was calling for unity a week or so ago?
Can someone refresh my memory! Is this the same Leon Crouch that was calling for unity a week or so ago?
Posted by: ossiesaint, at the bar on 7:25am Thu 27 Mar 08
Crouch Wilde and Lowe 3 names that make my blood boil! Just wish the 3 of them would clear off and leave Southampton FC alone. You are killing the club!!!!
Crouch Wilde and Lowe 3 names that make my blood boil! Just wish the 3 of them would clear off and leave Southampton FC alone. You are killing the club!!!!
Posted by: Solent Saint, Netley on 7:32am Thu 27 Mar 08
That's rich coming from you Leon. As managing the busines side of the club goes, Rupert Lowe could wipe the floor with you. Lets not forget, it was your alliance with Michael Wilde that forced out Rupert, and your ego that allows 'old big head' McMenemy to bask in past glories. Don't budget on my two season tickets next year, I'm supporting the club on a results only basis.
That's rich coming from you Leon. As managing the busines side of the club goes, Rupert Lowe could wipe the floor with you. Lets not forget, it was your alliance with Michael Wilde that forced out Rupert, and your ego that allows 'old big head' McMenemy to bask in past glories. Don't budget on my two season tickets next year, I'm supporting the club on a results only basis.
Posted by: Portswood Pete on 7:40am Thu 27 Mar 08
[bold]"Rupert Lowe had ten years and ten managers."[/bold]
BORING! Come on Leon, what about the 3 managers THIS SEASON? Is that your fault? Of course not, Lowe didn't sack all those managers and you know it. Don't just copy rubbish you've read on brain dead internet message boards, this is the reason most don't want you anywhere near running our club.
"Rupert Lowe had ten years and ten managers."
BORING! Come on Leon, what about the 3 managers THIS SEASON? Is that your fault? Of course not, Lowe didn't sack all those managers and you know it. Don't just copy rubbish you've read on brain dead internet message boards, this is the reason most don't want you anywhere near running our club.
Posted by: Trahsis, Doone on 7:48am Thu 27 Mar 08
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Posted by: dave, millbrook on 8:03am Thu 27 Mar 08
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild!
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild!
Posted by: Realist, Sunny South on 8:09am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote:
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee.
We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
Trahsis wrote:
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee.
We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
Posted by: Kit man on 8:12am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote:
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Get lost Rupert, nothing is forgiven...
Trahsis wrote:
Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Get lost Rupert, nothing is forgiven...
Posted by: Suspicious Steve on 8:15am Thu 27 Mar 08
Yeah Crouch and your doing such a great job, all you've managed to deliver is a statue so far. Not sure that's going to get us out of League 1 next year.
Yeah Crouch and your doing such a great job, all you've managed to deliver is a statue so far. Not sure that's going to get us out of League 1 next year.
Posted by: Reporter on 8:18am Thu 27 Mar 08
Interesting how these comments were made on Saturday to Radio Solent and only now, 5 days later, the Echo deem to print them. Surely they are not stirring fans up on purpose with old news??
Interesting how these comments were made on Saturday to Radio Solent and only now, 5 days later, the Echo deem to print them. Surely they are not stirring fans up on purpose with old news??
Posted by: Pedant on 8:35am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]dave[/bold] wrote:
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild![/quote] The bloke who made the first Ted Bates statue was a Saints fan, didn't make him a better sculptor did it. Did the boss of Tesco only get the job because he only shopped at Tescos beforehand.
dave wrote:
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild!
The bloke who made the first Ted Bates statue was a Saints fan, didn't make him a better sculptor did it. Did the boss of Tesco only get the job because he only shopped at Tescos beforehand.
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 8:54am Thu 27 Mar 08
Yes thats right it is someone elses fault, always someone elses fault
Yes thats right it is someone elses fault, always someone elses fault
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:25am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]dave[/bold] wrote:
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild![/quote] That's OK in theory Dave, but at this time, and in this state, what person 'with serious money' would be attracted to buy the club?
Other than the stadium, what else is there that would make the club an attractive proposition?
With the players that have been sold over the past decade, and the money spent on replacements, I would guess that the club does not just Play in red, but has a bank balance to match!
There was a similar problem when trying to attract an 'experienced' manager! Most experienced managers, out of a job at present, know what it is like to try an get success on a 'negative' budget!
dave wrote:
Leon Crouch is the only Saints fan out of the three.Wilde is a Liverpool fan (AND WHERE'S THE MONEY YOU PROMISED?) and Lowelife isn't even a football fan.We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer and that is not the small time Lowelife or Wild!
That's OK in theory Dave, but at this time, and in this state, what person 'with serious money' would be attracted to buy the club?
Other than the stadium, what else is there that would make the club an attractive proposition?
With the players that have been sold over the past decade, and the money spent on replacements, I would guess that the club does not just Play in red, but has a bank balance to match!
There was a similar problem when trying to attract an 'experienced' manager! Most experienced managers, out of a job at present, know what it is like to try an get success on a 'negative' budget!
Posted by: AK47, Downtown Basra on 9:34am Thu 27 Mar 08
For all you people that think that Crouch is the big all conquering saints hero, open your friggin eyes, he is a joke as a chairman
ok he is a fan but thats all he is. Not once have I seen him hold his hands to say I Take a portion of the blame for whats happening at the club, No instead he blames everybody else other than himself.
He is fool of lies and half truths.
:Last december he said he expected a takeover/investment in 4/6 months. a couple of weeks ago he said 6/9 months.
I also heard he wanted rid of Lee Hoos, but thats another story.
Instaed of harping on about wilde and Co. Lets concentrate on the failings and poor management decisions of the current chairman and his band of merry men.
Thats where the problem lies now.
For all you people that think that Crouch is the big all conquering saints hero, open your friggin eyes, he is a joke as a chairman
ok he is a fan but thats all he is. Not once have I seen him hold his hands to say I Take a portion of the blame for whats happening at the club, No instead he blames everybody else other than himself.
He is fool of lies and half truths.
:Last december he said he expected a takeover/investment in 4/6 months. a couple of weeks ago he said 6/9 months.
I also heard he wanted rid of Lee Hoos, but thats another story.
Instaed of harping on about wilde and Co. Lets concentrate on the failings and poor management decisions of the current chairman and his band of merry men.
Thats where the problem lies now.
Posted by: fantomedelgordon on 9:35am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Reporter[/bold] wrote:
Interesting how these comments were made on Saturday to Radio Solent and only now, 5 days later, the Echo deem to print them. Surely they are not stirring fans up on purpose with old news??[/quote] Yet another slow news day down the pub - where all the echo's hacks do their best 'creative thinking'...
Imo wilde and lowe would only be grudingly accepted back if they brought £100m worth of investment with them - and how likely is that??? Show us yer money or sod off!!!
Reporter wrote:
Interesting how these comments were made on Saturday to Radio Solent and only now, 5 days later, the Echo deem to print them. Surely they are not stirring fans up on purpose with old news??
Yet another slow news day down the pub - where all the echo's hacks do their best 'creative thinking'...
Imo wilde and lowe would only be grudingly accepted back if they brought £100m worth of investment with them - and how likely is that??? Show us yer money or sod off!!!
Posted by: Portswood Pete on 9:39am Thu 27 Mar 08
[bold]We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer[/bold]
What makes you think someone would want to buy us? You can't hang on hoping some rich idiot is going to take us over and spend a fortune, it hasn't happened in the last 10 years and it won't happen soon, if ever. We must stand on our own two feet and Crouch is not the man for it, Wilde proved he doesn't know his ar*e from his elbow, this only leaves Lowe, unfortunatly he is tainted goods. This means we are up poo creek, paddleless. Nothing changes.
We should leave things as they are until someone with serious money makes and offer
What makes you think someone would want to buy us? You can't hang on hoping some rich idiot is going to take us over and spend a fortune, it hasn't happened in the last 10 years and it won't happen soon, if ever. We must stand on our own two feet and Crouch is not the man for it, Wilde proved he doesn't know his ar*e from his elbow, this only leaves Lowe, unfortunatly he is tainted goods. This means we are up poo creek, paddleless. Nothing changes.
Posted by: Jack Lambden, Currently at school in an ict lesson on 9:44am Thu 27 Mar 08
im at school right now, and looking at this conversation about rupert lowe.I dont know what 2 think about him but all i do know is were going the right way towards a crisis.WE NEED SOME MONEY!. and 11 new players!
im at school right now, and looking at this conversation about rupert lowe.I dont know what 2 think about him but all i do know is were going the right way towards a crisis.WE NEED SOME MONEY!. and 11 new players!
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 10:17am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor's? Maybe you're the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr 'Realist'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor's, it's certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly?
Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you'll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club.
We need you Rupert
Realist wrote:
Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor's? Maybe you're the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr 'Realist'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor's, it's certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly?
Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you'll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club.
We need you Rupert
Posted by: Jez, London on 10:43am Thu 27 Mar 08
Let's be honest, there's nothing that can happen off the pitch which could turn the club around before our crucial next month and a half of games. All these clowns need to bury their axes for now, allow the collective focus of the club to be on matches only, and then come out fighting in the close season.
Of the 3 men in the frame right now, I would far rather Lowe than either of the other 2. A modern football club chairman demands a businessman - not a fan. It's a pretty shallow pond though, isn't it....
Let's be honest, there's nothing that can happen off the pitch which could turn the club around before our crucial next month and a half of games. All these clowns need to bury their axes for now, allow the collective focus of the club to be on matches only, and then come out fighting in the close season.
Of the 3 men in the frame right now, I would far rather Lowe than either of the other 2. A modern football club chairman demands a businessman - not a fan. It's a pretty shallow pond though, isn't it....
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 11:24am Thu 27 Mar 08
Jez: Well said, along with StPete the most sensible and literate contributions to this topic!
Jez: Well said, along with StPete the most sensible and literate contributions to this topic!
Posted by: Ric Flair on 11:31am Thu 27 Mar 08
[bold]THE END![/bold]
Posted by: Glenn on 12:26pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\'s? Maybe you\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \'Realist\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\'s, it\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
StPete wrote:
Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor\'s? Maybe you\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \'Realist\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\'s, it\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 12:47pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\'s? Maybe you\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \'Realist\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\'s, it\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.[/quote] Please explain your definition of the work 'fickle'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe?
I'm "ashamed" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that's life I'm afraid Glenn
Glenn wrote:
StPete wrote: Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor\'s? Maybe you\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \'Realist\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\'s, it\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Please explain your definition of the work 'fickle'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe?
I'm "ashamed" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that's life I'm afraid Glenn
Posted by: bring back phil boyer on 12:53pm Thu 27 Mar 08
i feel its time to speak,i ve been a fan all my life,i was there when we got promoted...there when we went down!still do as many away trips as i can,each game i go to you still see the same old faces....its about time these die-hard fans were given something back!!!! they deserve it...i think even sailor sam would agree!
i feel its time to speak,i ve been a fan all my life,i was there when we got promoted...there when we went down!still do as many away trips as i can,each game i go to you still see the same old faces....its about time these die-hard fans were given something back!!!! they deserve it...i think even sailor sam would agree!
Posted by: Mark Rees, San Francisco (Ex Pat) on 1:00pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Crouch, Wilde, Lowe. Off the top of my head, I don't remember any of them contributing much financially or bringing in significant investment. Lowes stewardship, in fact, seems to have left us in a very precarious financial position, the Wilde times seemingly did nothing at all to improve it and the 'Crouch'ing Tiger seems to have only offered massive quantities of hot air and unfulfilled promises.
I say get rid of all three of them and bring in people of proven financial ability and commitment to the Saints organization. The three Mouseketeers are a useless, inept and burdensome weight around our collective necks.
Crouch, Wilde, Lowe. Off the top of my head, I don't remember any of them contributing much financially or bringing in significant investment. Lowes stewardship, in fact, seems to have left us in a very precarious financial position, the Wilde times seemingly did nothing at all to improve it and the 'Crouch'ing Tiger seems to have only offered massive quantities of hot air and unfulfilled promises.
I say get rid of all three of them and bring in people of proven financial ability and commitment to the Saints organization. The three Mouseketeers are a useless, inept and burdensome weight around our collective necks.
Posted by: Saint Paul, Brockenhurst on 1:05pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Crouch what a great job he's done. I give him the credit for the new statue of Ted Bates. We could do worse than play the new statue at right back!
Crouch what a great job he's done. I give him the credit for the new statue of Ted Bates. We could do worse than play the new statue at right back!
Posted by: Glenn on 1:11pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\\\'s? Maybe you\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\'Realist\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\'s, it\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.[/quote] Please explain your definition of the work \'fickle\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\'m \"ashamed\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\'s life I\'m afraid Glenn[/quote] there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don't need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it's investment/managemen
t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.
StPete wrote:
Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor's? Maybe you're the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr 'Realist'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor's, it's certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you'll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Please explain your definition of the work \'fickle\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\'m \"ashamed\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\'s life I\'m afraid Glenn
there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don't need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it's investment/managemen
t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.
Posted by: Dragon Saint, Dibden Purlieu on 1:37pm Thu 27 Mar 08
No to Lowe!!
Come on let's not forget the man knows more about Hockey than Football, and alienated managers and others by addressing them by surnames (e.g. "Morning Redknapp")
Not saying Crouch is brilliant but there are limits and Lowe would be a step backwards.
No to Lowe!!
Come on let's not forget the man knows more about Hockey than Football, and alienated managers and others by addressing them by surnames (e.g. "Morning Redknapp")
Not saying Crouch is brilliant but there are limits and Lowe would be a step backwards.
Posted by: phil, marchwood on 1:43pm Thu 27 Mar 08
My comments on Rupert are:
1) As I understand it, Rupert wanted to bring Hoddle back, but otehrs opposed this. In my view, had Hoddle come back then we would not have got relegated. The manager debacle that followed the failed Hoddle return is what I think started the chain of events that lead to relegation from the Premiership.
2) I believed that Lowe had to go when he did - but only because he was so lacking in support from the fans, as a collective group, that his position was harming the club.
3) Rupert Lowe is an astute businessman. Facing relegation from the Premiership at the time, lets say the las January we were there, serious gambling should have taken place by attempting to strengthen the squad to avoid relegation at that time. Astute businessmen do not gamble. Football requires a few gambles here and there, a few decisions made from the heart rather than the head. Rupert tried to ride the storm out with his head - which wasn't enough in the end.
4) Rupert Lowe remains a credible figurehead as chairman. He was prepared to stick up for the club. He provided direction and was a face for the club. Whether his decisions were entirely right or wrong - he was prepared to make them.
Would I prefer to see Rupert Lowe back at the helm? Yes. He is more credible than anything else we have seen since and must surely now have learned the harsh lessons we have all learned during the last 3 seasons. This would make him a better proposition now - we hope.
The big question would be however, can Rupert Lowe as an astute businessman, find the middle ground necessary to take a few gambles? Perhaps Rupert should be afforded the opportunity to give everybody his current take on teh situation and the way in which he thinks we can deal with this situation now?
A lot of Saints fans don't like the mention of Lowe - but lets be honest with ourselves here, Lowe attracted the 2 best managers we had here for a long time - Strachan and Hoddle - so he can't be all bad can he?
My comments on Rupert are:
1) As I understand it, Rupert wanted to bring Hoddle back, but otehrs opposed this. In my view, had Hoddle come back then we would not have got relegated. The manager debacle that followed the failed Hoddle return is what I think started the chain of events that lead to relegation from the Premiership.
2) I believed that Lowe had to go when he did - but only because he was so lacking in support from the fans, as a collective group, that his position was harming the club.
3) Rupert Lowe is an astute businessman. Facing relegation from the Premiership at the time, lets say the las January we were there, serious gambling should have taken place by attempting to strengthen the squad to avoid relegation at that time. Astute businessmen do not gamble. Football requires a few gambles here and there, a few decisions made from the heart rather than the head. Rupert tried to ride the storm out with his head - which wasn't enough in the end.
4) Rupert Lowe remains a credible figurehead as chairman. He was prepared to stick up for the club. He provided direction and was a face for the club. Whether his decisions were entirely right or wrong - he was prepared to make them.
Would I prefer to see Rupert Lowe back at the helm? Yes. He is more credible than anything else we have seen since and must surely now have learned the harsh lessons we have all learned during the last 3 seasons. This would make him a better proposition now - we hope.
The big question would be however, can Rupert Lowe as an astute businessman, find the middle ground necessary to take a few gambles? Perhaps Rupert should be afforded the opportunity to give everybody his current take on teh situation and the way in which he thinks we can deal with this situation now?
A lot of Saints fans don't like the mention of Lowe - but lets be honest with ourselves here, Lowe attracted the 2 best managers we had here for a long time - Strachan and Hoddle - so he can't be all bad can he?
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 1:51pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\\\'s? Maybe you\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\'Realist\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\'s, it\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.[/quote] Please explain your definition of the work \'fickle\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\'m \"ashamed\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\'s life I\'m afraid Glenn[/quote] there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don't need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it's investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.[/quote] What was "absolutely pathectic" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I'm sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club.
It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club.
[quote]anyhow we don't need board changes yet again.[/quote]
What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn't you say?
Glenn wrote:
StPete wrote: Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor's? Maybe you're the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr 'Realist'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor's, it's certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you'll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Please explain your definition of the work \'fickle\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\'m \"ashamed\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\'s life I\'m afraid Glenn
there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don't need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it's investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.
What was "absolutely pathectic" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I'm sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club.
It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club.
anyhow we don't need board changes yet again.
What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: kevin.. Horns, nursling on 2:04pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Yes Lowe did attract Strachan & Hoddle but lets not forget he also made some awful appointments at very important times and if he had supported Strachan with the finances i think we would not be in this toilet now.. LOWE NO MONEY..WILDE NO MONEY ,CROUCH CLUELESS & PENNYLESS ! All have more than me but not enough for whats required in football today .
Yes Lowe did attract Strachan & Hoddle but lets not forget he also made some awful appointments at very important times and if he had supported Strachan with the finances i think we would not be in this toilet now.. LOWE NO MONEY..WILDE NO MONEY ,CROUCH CLUELESS & PENNYLESS ! All have more than me but not enough for whats required in football today .
Posted by: Captain Swing, Soutampton on 2:09pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I'm sure Leon would love to quit. It's just that he's made such a mess of things he is terrified of Rupert getting a look at the books.
The sooner he does, the more likely we are to survive.
I'm sure Leon's heart is close the right place, but if cared more for the club than his image he'd have got Rupert in, for a consultation at the very least, last summer.
I'm sure Leon would love to quit. It's just that he's made such a mess of things he is terrified of Rupert getting a look at the books.
The sooner he does, the more likely we are to survive.
I'm sure Leon's heart is close the right place, but if cared more for the club than his image he'd have got Rupert in, for a consultation at the very least, last summer.
Posted by: Captain Swing, Sfam\'un on 2:12pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Captain Swing[/bold] wrote:
I\'m sure Leon would love to quit. It\'s just that he\'s made such a mess of things he is terrified of Rupert getting a look at the books. The sooner he does, the more likely we are to survive. I\'m sure Leon\'s heart is close the right place, but if cared more for the club than his image he\'d have got Rupert in, for a consultation at the very least, last summer. [/quote] Typical Mush - I dropped an haych!
Captain Swing wrote:
I\'m sure Leon would love to quit. It\'s just that he\'s made such a mess of things he is terrified of Rupert getting a look at the books. The sooner he does, the more likely we are to survive. I\'m sure Leon\'s heart is close the right place, but if cared more for the club than his image he\'d have got Rupert in, for a consultation at the very least, last summer.
Typical Mush - I dropped an haych!
Posted by: derek, Bangkok on 2:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
If Mr Lowe is so good at running a football club's finances why has he not been snapped up by another club?
If Mr Lowe is so good at running a football club's finances why has he not been snapped up by another club?
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 2:37pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]derek[/bold] wrote:
If Mr Lowe is so good at running a football club's finances why has he not been snapped up by another club?[/quote] Because he still has financial ties and responsibilities at Southampton Football Club Derek
derek wrote:
If Mr Lowe is so good at running a football club's finances why has he not been snapped up by another club?
Because he still has financial ties and responsibilities at Southampton Football Club Derek
Posted by: km, totton on 2:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out - he was crap then, and always will be crap - all these people now jumping on the band wagon wanting him to reign again, sometimes i think this is Ruperts spin again, by him sending messages on behalf of himself saying how great he was + will be again. He came with no money and left with no money, so how he is going to come up with money now - people say he brought in good old Gordon + Glen, but both jumped ships went the money river run dry, was it good old Rupert who both employed and shut the door on 10 managers in 10 years, or somebody else - no it was good old Rupert, so stop the spin Rupert and do us all a favour and jump off the Itchen Bridge and save us from singing us wishes to you. If he comes back will he re-imburse my 2 recently renewed season tickets - like hell he will
every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out - he was crap then, and always will be crap - all these people now jumping on the band wagon wanting him to reign again, sometimes i think this is Ruperts spin again, by him sending messages on behalf of himself saying how great he was + will be again. He came with no money and left with no money, so how he is going to come up with money now - people say he brought in good old Gordon + Glen, but both jumped ships went the money river run dry, was it good old Rupert who both employed and shut the door on 10 managers in 10 years, or somebody else - no it was good old Rupert, so stop the spin Rupert and do us all a favour and jump off the Itchen Bridge and save us from singing us wishes to you. If he comes back will he re-imburse my 2 recently renewed season tickets - like hell he will
Posted by: crew 657, soton on 3:15pm Thu 27 Mar 08
good to see scum infighting, makes it more likely they will go down (like squaddie and sunner will if ever i meet them)
good to see scum infighting, makes it more likely they will go down (like squaddie and sunner will if ever i meet them)
Posted by: Glenn on 3:17pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\\\\\\\'s? Maybe you\\\\\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\\\\\'Realist\\\\\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\\\\\'s, it\\\\\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\\\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.[/quote] Please explain your definition of the work \\\'fickle\\\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\\\'m \\\"ashamed\\\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\\\'s life I\\\'m afraid Glenn[/quote] there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don\'t need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it\'s investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.[/quote] What was \"absolutely pathectic\" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I\'m sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club. It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club. [quote]anyhow we don\'t need board changes yet again.[/quote] What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn\'t you say?[/quote] I'm afraid I have to correct you, I wasn't part of the anti-lowe brigade and admire some of the decisions he made and I don't hold him solely responsible for the mess of the last 3/4 years. I do however think he'd had his day and it was right for him to go.
StPete wrote:
Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor\\\\'s? Maybe you\\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\\'Realist\\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\\'s, it\\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Please explain your definition of the work 'fickle'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I'm \\\"ashamed\\\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that's life I'm afraid Glenn
there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don\'t need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it\'s investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.
What was \"absolutely pathectic\" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I\'m sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club. It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club. anyhow we don\'t need board changes yet again.
What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn\'t you say?
I'm afraid I have to correct you, I wasn't part of the anti-lowe brigade and admire some of the decisions he made and I don't hold him solely responsible for the mess of the last 3/4 years. I do however think he'd had his day and it was right for him to go.
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 3:19pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner.
This Rupert sounds a real devil
I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner.
This Rupert sounds a real devil
Posted by: Wazza on 3:32pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote:
I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner. This Rupert sounds a real devil[/quote] His "financial prudence" was not shelling out transfer fees and wages on Premiership standard players. In the short run, this was prudent, we showed a profit when others around us were reporting losses. But in the long run cost us our place in the prem and the £30m p/a (or whatever the figure is) associated with that premier league status.
At the time when we needed him his position was untenable, as it is now.
Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.
StPete wrote:
I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner. This Rupert sounds a real devil
His "financial prudence" was not shelling out transfer fees and wages on Premiership standard players. In the short run, this was prudent, we showed a profit when others around us were reporting losses. But in the long run cost us our place in the prem and the £30m p/a (or whatever the figure is) associated with that premier league status.
At the time when we needed him his position was untenable, as it is now.
Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.
Posted by: :emaN, .... on 3:33pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Suspicious Steve[/bold] wrote:
Yeah Crouch and your doing such a great job, all you've managed to deliver is a statue so far. Not sure that's going to get us out of League 1 next year.[/quote] Well, it's moved around a lot more than our defence has this season.
Suspicious Steve wrote:
Yeah Crouch and your doing such a great job, all you've managed to deliver is a statue so far. Not sure that's going to get us out of League 1 next year.
Well, it's moved around a lot more than our defence has this season.
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 3:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner. This Rupert sounds a real devil[/quote] His "financial prudence" was not shelling out transfer fees and wages on Premiership standard players. In the short run, this was prudent, we showed a profit when others around us were reporting losses. But in the long run cost us our place in the prem and the £30m p/a (or whatever the figure is) associated with that premier league status. At the time when we needed him his position was untenable, as it is now. Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.[/quote] Was a response to km...
[quote]every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out[/quote]
Thought I had quoted but must have been mistaken.
So in response to your... [quote]Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.[/quote]
...I didn't
Wazza wrote:
StPete wrote: I live in hope though that these "true supporters" will teach those of us who are deemed not worthy of caring for the club the ways of the world, and how we can stop the evil Rupert from doing something drastic such as saving the club he once ran in a financially prudent manner. This Rupert sounds a real devil
His "financial prudence" was not shelling out transfer fees and wages on Premiership standard players. In the short run, this was prudent, we showed a profit when others around us were reporting losses. But in the long run cost us our place in the prem and the £30m p/a (or whatever the figure is) associated with that premier league status. At the time when we needed him his position was untenable, as it is now. Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.
Was a response to km...
every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out
Thought I had quoted but must have been mistaken.
So in response to your...
Don't sarcastically label people who wanted Lowe out as "True Supporters" just because they do not agree with your opinion.
...I didn't
Posted by: Glenn on 3:41pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Glenn[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]StPete[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Realist[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Trahsis[/bold] wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...[/quote] Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.[/quote] What investor\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s? Maybe you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'Realist\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert[/quote] Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.[/quote] Please explain your definition of the work \\\\\\\'fickle\\\\\\\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\\\\\\\'m \\\\\\\"ashamed\\\\\\\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\\\\\\\'s life I\\\\\\\'m afraid Glenn[/quote] there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don\\\'t need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it\\\'s investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.[/quote] What was \\\"absolutely pathectic\\\" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I\\\'m sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club. It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club. [quote]anyhow we don\\\'t need board changes yet again.[/quote] What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn\\\'t you say?[/quote] I\'m afraid I have to correct you, I wasn\'t part of the anti-lowe brigade and admire some of the decisions he made and I don\'t hold him solely responsible for the mess of the last 3/4 years. I do however think he\'d had his day and it was right for him to go.[/quote] Prat...end of
Glenn wrote:
StPete wrote: Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Glenn wrote: StPete wrote: Realist wrote: Trahsis wrote: Come back Rupert, all is forgiven...
Not by any fan I know, sod off LOWE!!! and anyone who agrees with your comment I suggest they should wake up and smell the coffee. We need investment and fast but not from him, this PLC bit needs to be lost, by the new investor/s.
What investor\\\\\\\\\\\\'s? Maybe you\\\\\\\\\\\\'re the one who needs to smell the coffee Mr \\\\\\\\\\\\'Realist\\\\\\\\\\\\'. We need someone who can steady this sinking ship with some financial prudence and make some tough decisions. Who is capable of this? There are no investor\\\\\\\\\\\\'s, it\\\\\\\\\\\\'s certainly not Leon, so who else is there exactly? Put your hatred aside for a minute and maybe you\\\\\\\\\\\\'ll realise that there is only one sensible option to save this club. We need you Rupert
Realist!!! oh how fickle, how forgettful, it really is a sorry state and I would be ashamed to be associated with so-called fans. Leon Crouch has southampton in his blood I for one think he should be given some time. Rupert had his time and wilde bailed out.PLEASE PLEASE CAN WE UNITE AND MOVE FORWARD for goodness sake. my 3 year old is more grown up than all these so-called rattle throwing fans.
Please explain your definition of the work \\\\'fickle\\\\'. Were the anti-lowe brigade not fickle and forgetful through their blind hatred towards Lowe? I\\\\'m \\\\\\\"ashamed\\\\\\\" to be associated with so called fans who will never put their own pride and hatred aside to admit they were wrong to want these clowns in charge of our club, but that\\\\'s life I\\\\'m afraid Glenn
there we go bleating on about the past yet again, absolutely pathectic. I think Leon is wrong to react in the media or is just the echo again??? anyhow we don't need board changes yet again. For F*%ks sake. Everyone knows th playoffs are a lottery and it's investment/managemen t which was needed in the 1st season in the championship so we lost a season and last one there was a lot of player changes as per this one...guess this will be the norm now.
What was \\\"absolutely pathectic\\\" was the anti-lowe brigade (the vocal minority, of which I'm sure you were a proud member Glenn) foaming at the mouth and getting rid of the man who could have ensured a safe future for our club. It is from the past where we can learn and avoid making the same mistakes, so please can the anti-lowe brigade keep quiet in future. They have already proved they have no idea what is right for the club. anyhow we don't need board changes yet again.
What we need is a competent board capable of running a football club, wouldn't you say?
I\'m afraid I have to correct you, I wasn\'t part of the anti-lowe brigade and admire some of the decisions he made and I don\'t hold him solely responsible for the mess of the last 3/4 years. I do however think he\'d had his day and it was right for him to go.
Prat...end of
Posted by: SUNNER, southampton on 4:00pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]crew 657[/bold] wrote:
good to see scum infighting, makes it more likely they will go down (like squaddie and sunner will if ever i meet them)[/quote] Im sorry crew you are right, my name is sunner and im a little acne ridden scummer with nothing better to do than be a cyber warrior like that Sea Cadet girl naming herself as Squaddie
Sorry
crew 657 wrote:
good to see scum infighting, makes it more likely they will go down (like squaddie and sunner will if ever i meet them)
Im sorry crew you are right, my name is sunner and im a little acne ridden scummer with nothing better to do than be a cyber warrior like that Sea Cadet girl naming herself as Squaddie
Sorry
Posted by: crew657, soton on 4:12pm Thu 27 Mar 08
scummers are going down mmmmmm just like my boyfriend was last night
scummers are going down mmmmmm just like my boyfriend was last night
Posted by: Petros's mum on 4:33pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]crew657[/bold] wrote:
scummers are going down mmmmmm just like my boyfriend was last night [/quote] You naughty boy you!
crew657 wrote:
scummers are going down mmmmmm just like my boyfriend was last night
You naughty boy you!
Posted by: Loaded Saint, Totton on 5:43pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]km[/bold] wrote:
every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out - he was crap then, and always will be crap - all these people now jumping on the band wagon wanting him to reign again, sometimes i think this is Ruperts spin again, by him sending messages on behalf of himself saying how great he was + will be again. He came with no money and left with no money, so how he is going to come up with money now - people say he brought in good old Gordon + Glen, but both jumped ships went the money river run dry, was it good old Rupert who both employed and shut the door on 10 managers in 10 years, or somebody else - no it was good old Rupert, so stop the spin Rupert and do us all a favour and jump off the Itchen Bridge and save us from singing us wishes to you. If he comes back will he re-imburse my 2 recently renewed season tickets - like hell he will[/quote] Sucker, at least I've saved my money untill Rupert does come back.
km wrote:
every day i read the same old rubbish - Lowe was kicked out by the true supporters because the fans wanted him out - he was crap then, and always will be crap - all these people now jumping on the band wagon wanting him to reign again, sometimes i think this is Ruperts spin again, by him sending messages on behalf of himself saying how great he was + will be again. He came with no money and left with no money, so how he is going to come up with money now - people say he brought in good old Gordon + Glen, but both jumped ships went the money river run dry, was it good old Rupert who both employed and shut the door on 10 managers in 10 years, or somebody else - no it was good old Rupert, so stop the spin Rupert and do us all a favour and jump off the Itchen Bridge and save us from singing us wishes to you. If he comes back will he re-imburse my 2 recently renewed season tickets - like hell he will
Sucker, at least I've saved my money untill Rupert does come back.
Posted by: crew657, soton on 5:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
i think Rupert Lowe is much better looking than Leon Crouch
so come back Rupert i for one miss you big boy
i think Rupert Lowe is much better looking than Leon Crouch
so come back Rupert i for one miss you big boy
Posted by: Jim, Southampton on 7:23pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:46pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.[/quote] A stable ship Jim?
Somwhere to keep the red and white striped donkeys?
Jim wrote:
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.
A stable ship Jim?
Somwhere to keep the red and white striped donkeys?
Posted by: not, funny at all on 8:15pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jim[/bold] wrote:
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.[/quote] A stable ship Jim?
Somwhere to keep the red and white striped donkeys?
[/quote] [bold] funny as toothache as always [/bold]
sailor sam wrote:
Jim wrote:
Rupert should come back. At least we´ll have a stable ship if he does. As for those who said that WGS jumped ship, he didnt, his wife got sick and he took a year off to take care of her. As in, there ARE more important things than that of our club.
A stable ship Jim?
Somwhere to keep the red and white striped donkeys?
funny as toothache as always Posted by: gary, south wales on 8:21pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Id welcome Rupert back as long as he promises not to bring back twaddle or redtwat.At least we survied for quite a few years under him and he gave us Gordon.
Id welcome Rupert back as long as he promises not to bring back twaddle or redtwat.At least we survied for quite a few years under him and he gave us Gordon.
Posted by: JACK on 8:22pm Thu 27 Mar 08
At least Rupert Lowe speaks proper - that's impressive - and he's got a nice name!
At least Rupert Lowe speaks proper - that's impressive - and he's got a nice name!
Posted by: PaulG, Southampton on 8:55pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Good to see a lot of sensible comments being posted – hope the Echo will publish them.
Crouch and McMenemy both blame Lowe for relegation yet give him no credit for the achievements of the club prior to relegation. Surely these are irrational comments from people with their own self-interest being the cause.
A look at the last years accounts show an operating loss (before player trading) of £4M. The loss of the £6M parachute payments therefore points to an operating loss of about £10 this season if outgoings were to be maintained. Money from the sale Kenwyne Jones and Chris Baird will offset some of the loss but by my reckoning more players will need to be sold to balance the books at the end of the season. The supply of players to be sold is drying up (the academy has deteriorated since Lowe left) so this cannot go on indefinitely.
I do not believe Lowe and Andrew Cowan would have allowed this precarious financial position to be reached and would back them for a return in preference to the current board. We would all like to see a major financial backer found but until we do the club needs to be put back on a sound business footing. Lowe is the best option available – however his main shortcoming was his lack of PR skills and it would therefore need him and Wilde to take back seats on the Board and appoint Andrew Cowan as Chairman in an effort to appease the lunatic / loyal fringe.
Good to see a lot of sensible comments being posted – hope the Echo will publish them.
Crouch and McMenemy both blame Lowe for relegation yet give him no credit for the achievements of the club prior to relegation. Surely these are irrational comments from people with their own self-interest being the cause.
A look at the last years accounts show an operating loss (before player trading) of £4M. The loss of the £6M parachute payments therefore points to an operating loss of about £10 this season if outgoings were to be maintained. Money from the sale Kenwyne Jones and Chris Baird will offset some of the loss but by my reckoning more players will need to be sold to balance the books at the end of the season. The supply of players to be sold is drying up (the academy has deteriorated since Lowe left) so this cannot go on indefinitely.
I do not believe Lowe and Andrew Cowan would have allowed this precarious financial position to be reached and would back them for a return in preference to the current board. We would all like to see a major financial backer found but until we do the club needs to be put back on a sound business footing. Lowe is the best option available – however his main shortcoming was his lack of PR skills and it would therefore need him and Wilde to take back seats on the Board and appoint Andrew Cowan as Chairman in an effort to appease the lunatic / loyal fringe.
Posted by: Capello, Italy on 9:23pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Crouch OUT,Crouch OUT, Lowe IN Lowe IN
Crouch OUT,Crouch OUT, Lowe IN Lowe IN
Posted by: phil, Marchwood on 9:47pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Can anyone tell me why, whenever we seem to see a picture of Leon Crouch, he always appears to be grimmacing - as if receiving some kind of injection? (which unfortunately for us, is not a cash injection)
Answers on a Vincent Pericard please - PO BOX League 1, Sometime Soon, South Coast
Can anyone tell me why, whenever we seem to see a picture of Leon Crouch, he always appears to be grimmacing - as if receiving some kind of injection? (which unfortunately for us, is not a cash injection)
Answers on a Vincent Pericard please - PO BOX League 1, Sometime Soon, South Coast
Posted by: Ex.Pat, U.S.A on 10:24pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Lowe an astute business man?
Two names-Drogba and Delgado.
Says it all
Lowe an astute business man?
Two names-Drogba and Delgado.
Says it all
Posted by: Ex.Pat on 10:29pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Lowe an astute business man?
Two names-Drogba and Delgado,
Says it all,
Lowe an astute business man?
Two names-Drogba and Delgado,
Says it all,
Posted by: Bryan Bridgwater, Courtice Ontario Canada on 10:36pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Personally I think Lowe and Wilde's actions are totally inappropriate at this time. I think it is extremely unsettling for the Club at this critical time.
Lets give credit where it is due Leon Crouch has appointed as good a Manager as is humanly possible under the circumstances the Club are in.
Nigel Pearson has already taken some initiative in obtaining the loan services of 2 former England players and Nigel calls things the way they are and is most definitely getting the best out of the players.
Anyone who thinks Hoddle would be better than Pearson is only fooling themselves....Hoddle failed miserably at both Spurs and Wolves after leaving Saints.
At least Crouch is a genuine Saints supporter. This is more than can be said for Lowe and Wilde who are more interested in their investment in the Club than anything else.
What the club needs is some new investors such as David Frost, someone who has the financial backing to move the Club forward.
Lowe, in fairness, did contribute something to the Club in taking the Club to St Mary's. He was in charge when Saints were relegated and has to be held responsible for this with so many Managers coming and going.
If we survive relegation, lets move forward with new investment and let Nigel Pearson do the great job he is doing under very difficult circumstances. At least Crouch has made an excellent choice in appointing Nigel Pearson as our Manager!
Personally I think Lowe and Wilde's actions are totally inappropriate at this time. I think it is extremely unsettling for the Club at this critical time.
Lets give credit where it is due Leon Crouch has appointed as good a Manager as is humanly possible under the circumstances the Club are in.
Nigel Pearson has already taken some initiative in obtaining the loan services of 2 former England players and Nigel calls things the way they are and is most definitely getting the best out of the players.
Anyone who thinks Hoddle would be better than Pearson is only fooling themselves....Hoddle failed miserably at both Spurs and Wolves after leaving Saints.
At least Crouch is a genuine Saints supporter. This is more than can be said for Lowe and Wilde who are more interested in their investment in the Club than anything else.
What the club needs is some new investors such as David Frost, someone who has the financial backing to move the Club forward.
Lowe, in fairness, did contribute something to the Club in taking the Club to St Mary's. He was in charge when Saints were relegated and has to be held responsible for this with so many Managers coming and going.
If we survive relegation, lets move forward with new investment and let Nigel Pearson do the great job he is doing under very difficult circumstances. At least Crouch has made an excellent choice in appointing Nigel Pearson as our Manager!
Posted by: pugwash, southampton on 10:47pm Thu 27 Mar 08
THE ONLY ONE DELUDING HIMSELF HAS TO BE LEON CROUCH AS HE FEELS THAT HE IS A SUITABLE FOOTBALL CLUB CHAIRMAN - ESPECIALLY AS HE'S A SAINTS FAN THROUGH AND THROUGH.UNFORTUNATEL
Y BEING A FAN DOES'N'T MEAN TO SAY A THING,OTHERWISE THERE ARE 30,000 OF US WHO COULD DO THE JOB.I'M AFRAID RUPERT WINS HANDS DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS ACUMEN AND RUNNING THE BUSINESS SIDE OF A FOOTBALL CLUB.
THE ONLY ONE DELUDING HIMSELF HAS TO BE LEON CROUCH AS HE FEELS THAT HE IS A SUITABLE FOOTBALL CLUB CHAIRMAN - ESPECIALLY AS HE'S A SAINTS FAN THROUGH AND THROUGH.UNFORTUNATEL
Y BEING A FAN DOES'N'T MEAN TO SAY A THING,OTHERWISE THERE ARE 30,000 OF US WHO COULD DO THE JOB.I'M AFRAID RUPERT WINS HANDS DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS ACUMEN AND RUNNING THE BUSINESS SIDE OF A FOOTBALL CLUB.
Posted by: A Trualist, Southampton on 4:16am Fri 28 Mar 08
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE spare me. Rupert Lowe wants to come back on the board? The same Rupert Lowe who was hawking his shares for 65p to anyone who would listen, trying desperately to sell and get out of the club - when the share price was 60p he was scuppering takeovers holding out for an extra little bit of profit, now the price is down at 40p and he looks foolish to his "proxy" friends because he has lost them 30% of their holdings by having them not sell, suddenly he wants to come back on the Board. Makes me puke, seriously does. 6 months ago the man wanted to sell out, I for one (along with thousands more) wish he had, and I for one (along with probably thousands more) will not be renewing our own financial commitment to the club (season tickets) under a Lowe comeback.
How many games has Rupert been to this year? I rest my case.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE spare me. Rupert Lowe wants to come back on the board? The same Rupert Lowe who was hawking his shares for 65p to anyone who would listen, trying desperately to sell and get out of the club - when the share price was 60p he was scuppering takeovers holding out for an extra little bit of profit, now the price is down at 40p and he looks foolish to his "proxy" friends because he has lost them 30% of their holdings by having them not sell, suddenly he wants to come back on the Board. Makes me puke, seriously does. 6 months ago the man wanted to sell out, I for one (along with thousands more) wish he had, and I for one (along with probably thousands more) will not be renewing our own financial commitment to the club (season tickets) under a Lowe comeback.
How many games has Rupert been to this year? I rest my case.
Posted by: John, Sydenham on 9:22am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote]"He did get us relegated...[/quote]
Presumably Mr Crouch will also acknowledge Mr Lowe's role in building St Mary's, the FA Cup Final, playing in Europe, etc? No, thought not.
[quote]"...nd for the first year in the Championship the club was hovering around the relegation zone for long periods.[/quote]
As opposed to now when we've been, er,was hovering around the relegation zone for long periods. Mr Crouch, please go back to managing your crumby little factory. You are out of your depth.
"He did get us relegated...
Presumably Mr Crouch will also acknowledge Mr Lowe's role in building St Mary's, the FA Cup Final, playing in Europe, etc? No, thought not.
"...nd for the first year in the Championship the club was hovering around the relegation zone for long periods.
As opposed to now when we've been, er,was hovering around the relegation zone for long periods. Mr Crouch, please go back to managing your crumby little factory. You are out of your depth.
Posted by: DJI, Berkshire on 11:15am Fri 28 Mar 08
Nice to see the Pompey/Saints crappy banter going on again! And even better, the long discussion threads that continue to make reading this piece more difficult! We get the points you make, you don't have to keep "replying with history" to everything. (You know who you are Glenn & others)
Back to the subject in hand;
It would seem that The Echo has pulled this piece out several days after Crouch may the comments which is not very good journalism. But more concerning is that Crouch is FC Chairman, not PLC and should be guarded about making such statements. I agree with what he says but I am not sure he should be saying it?
Nice to see the Pompey/Saints crappy banter going on again! And even better, the long discussion threads that continue to make reading this piece more difficult! We get the points you make, you don't have to keep "replying with history" to everything. (You know who you are Glenn & others)
Back to the subject in hand;
It would seem that The Echo has pulled this piece out several days after Crouch may the comments which is not very good journalism. But more concerning is that Crouch is FC Chairman, not PLC and should be guarded about making such statements. I agree with what he says but I am not sure he should be saying it?
Posted by: femail, soton on 12:20pm Fri 28 Mar 08
i have come to the conclusion a new board is needed made up of femails!!! at least a femail chairman.things may get sorted then.this is after seeing men on sport relief do nothing but bicker and the same on the aprentice.wasting a complete day while the girls got on with the job!!!!!!!!!
i have come to the conclusion a new board is needed made up of femails!!! at least a femail chairman.things may get sorted then.this is after seeing men on sport relief do nothing but bicker and the same on the aprentice.wasting a complete day while the girls got on with the job!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:54pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]femail[/bold] wrote:
i have come to the conclusion a new board is needed made up of femails!!! at least a femail chairman.things may get sorted then.this is after seeing men on sport relief do nothing but bicker and the same on the aprentice.wasting a complete day while the girls got on with the job!!!!!!!!![/quote] What the hell is a FEMAIL?
femail wrote:
i have come to the conclusion a new board is needed made up of femails!!! at least a femail chairman.things may get sorted then.this is after seeing men on sport relief do nothing but bicker and the same on the aprentice.wasting a complete day while the girls got on with the job!!!!!!!!!
What the hell is a FEMAIL?
Posted by: mark morgan on 9:31pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Saints fans have got very short memories.
Lawrie Mcmenemy is the only guy to run saints,he worked with ted bates for years and he should be appointed Chairman to sort the club out.Lowe hasnt got a bloody clue about football the bloke should keep his nose out.Saints need an investor and given time Lawrie wud find that and under Lawrie for years saints were a force to be reckjoned with and wud be again remember Shilton mills dennis wright agboola williams armstrong wallace moran worthington let alone keegan,channon,osgoo
d players who used to put 3 or 4 thousand on the gate.
Lawrie brought that to the club tell me one really good player worth watchin now there aint one,bring back the glory days please lawrie.
Saints fans have got very short memories.
Lawrie Mcmenemy is the only guy to run saints,he worked with ted bates for years and he should be appointed Chairman to sort the club out.Lowe hasnt got a bloody clue about football the bloke should keep his nose out.Saints need an investor and given time Lawrie wud find that and under Lawrie for years saints were a force to be reckjoned with and wud be again remember Shilton mills dennis wright agboola williams armstrong wallace moran worthington let alone keegan,channon,osgoo
d players who used to put 3 or 4 thousand on the gate.
Lawrie brought that to the club tell me one really good player worth watchin now there aint one,bring back the glory days please lawrie.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 10:35pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mark morgan[/bold] wrote:
Saints fans have got very short memories. Lawrie Mcmenemy is the only guy to run saints,he worked with ted bates for years and he should be appointed Chairman to sort the club out.Lowe hasnt got a bloody clue about football the bloke should keep his nose out.Saints need an investor and given time Lawrie wud find that and under Lawrie for years saints were a force to be reckjoned with and wud be again remember Shilton mills dennis wright agboola williams armstrong wallace moran worthington let alone keegan,channon,osgoo d players who used to put 3 or 4 thousand on the gate. Lawrie brought that to the club tell me one really good player worth watchin now there aint one,bring back the glory days please lawrie.[/quote] Well said Mark! Memories are great, but they are built on the Past!
How long ago are you thinking of?
Look at photographs of Big Mac as he was then, and then compare with how he looks Now!
McMenemy is a museum piece at SMS now! Wheeled out on special occasions, but makes no real contribution!
I understand that when Askham and Co sold SFC, Big Mac got a few bob for his shares! I wonder whether that money found its way back into the club! I doubt it!
SFC's problems NOW, are because they did not build on their success, but basked in the glory, and thought the gravy train would run for ever - with no thought for the future!
Incidentally, since Big Mac Returned to the club, in an advisory capacity, what success has his advice brought?
Was it his advice that said sell your talent, and bring in the less talented?
If it was, he gave bad advice!
If it was not, why is he still there if the powers that be are Not taking his advice?
Big Mac is Yesterday's man!
mark morgan wrote:
Saints fans have got very short memories. Lawrie Mcmenemy is the only guy to run saints,he worked with ted bates for years and he should be appointed Chairman to sort the club out.Lowe hasnt got a bloody clue about football the bloke should keep his nose out.Saints need an investor and given time Lawrie wud find that and under Lawrie for years saints were a force to be reckjoned with and wud be again remember Shilton mills dennis wright agboola williams armstrong wallace moran worthington let alone keegan,channon,osgoo d players who used to put 3 or 4 thousand on the gate. Lawrie brought that to the club tell me one really good player worth watchin now there aint one,bring back the glory days please lawrie.
Well said Mark! Memories are great, but they are built on the Past!
How long ago are you thinking of?
Look at photographs of Big Mac as he was then, and then compare with how he looks Now!
McMenemy is a museum piece at SMS now! Wheeled out on special occasions, but makes no real contribution!
I understand that when Askham and Co sold SFC, Big Mac got a few bob for his shares! I wonder whether that money found its way back into the club! I doubt it!
SFC's problems NOW, are because they did not build on their success, but basked in the glory, and thought the gravy train would run for ever - with no thought for the future!
Incidentally, since Big Mac Returned to the club, in an advisory capacity, what success has his advice brought?
Was it his advice that said sell your talent, and bring in the less talented?
If it was, he gave bad advice!
If it was not, why is he still there if the powers that be are Not taking his advice?
Big Mac is Yesterday's man!
