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SAINTS will not publish their retained list until they have finalised their managerial situation.
The deadline for clubs to complete the retained list detailing those out of contract players offered new deals and those released was last Friday.
Saints met the deadline but unlike most other sides do not intend to make the names of those kept on public at this moment in time.
The reason is because of the managerial decisions to be made this week.
As reported in Saturday's Daily Echo, the club will this week meet with Nigel Pearson to discuss his future as Saints boss.
Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde have been keen to look at Pearson's contract and meet with the man himself before making any decisions as to whether to continue with him in charge or look at other options.
Pearson is out of contract this summer and the return of Lowe and Wilde means everything at the club is being assessed as they look to shore up the finances at St Mary's whilst still keeping the club competitive.
The justification for not making the list public is that Pearson, or whoever who may take over as manager, should have their full say on who they want to keep.
For full story, see today's Daily Echo.
7:00am Monday 19th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: worried of e sussex, up a gum tree on 7:25am Mon 19 May 08
i think pearson should let lowe & wilde go!
i think pearson should let lowe & wilde go!
Posted by: Season Ticket Holder, In the itchen stand on 7:33am Mon 19 May 08
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story.
In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story.
In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.
Posted by: True Fan, Southampton on 8:00am Mon 19 May 08
What all TRUE fans should retain is their faith that we will once again be a force in the Premier League. A force within our means anyway. . . . .
What all TRUE fans should retain is their faith that we will once again be a force in the Premier League. A force within our means anyway. . . . .
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 8:05am Mon 19 May 08
I think Pearson knows full well what the situation is, release all the deadwood and sell as many as possible.
I think Pearson knows full well what the situation is, release all the deadwood and sell as many as possible.
Posted by: SFC4EVA, soton on 8:10am Mon 19 May 08
Can anyone honestly say that we would be able to get anyone better for the money he must be on? I think he needs to be given a chance. C'mon Lowe and Wilde. Take a chance!
Can anyone honestly say that we would be able to get anyone better for the money he must be on? I think he needs to be given a chance. C'mon Lowe and Wilde. Take a chance!
Posted by: Saints Fan (no really, honest), By the half way line, by where the players come out on 8:48am Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Season Ticket Holder[/bold] wrote:
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story. In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.[/quote] Every body calm down, Wilde a... oh, err... those new guys will make some unpopular decisions very soon. The longer we drag things out the longer it will take for people to start making effigies of me...err them.
And if you just like us you are bigots as well. That right anyone that doesn’t like us is a bigot , mother says so, so there
Season Ticket Holder wrote:
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story. In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.
Every body calm down, Wilde a... oh, err... those new guys will make some unpopular decisions very soon. The longer we drag things out the longer it will take for people to start making effigies of me...err them.
And if you just like us you are bigots as well. That right anyone that doesn’t like us is a bigot , mother says so, so there
Posted by: the totton scrutineer, TOTTON on 9:08am Mon 19 May 08
Gery Linekar made an ironic statement on Saturday " Good times are back in the South Coast" Sadly not for Saints now that the Wilde Lowe patnership is back it's No money No ambition No idea That's the order of the day now.Start saving at the top! After Lowe contributed to Saints situation he should do the job for free.And as for Wilde who changes his mind more frequently than my wife...JUST RESIGN NOW WE DON'T WANT YOU!
Gery Linekar made an ironic statement on Saturday " Good times are back in the South Coast" Sadly not for Saints now that the Wilde Lowe patnership is back it's No money No ambition No idea That's the order of the day now.Start saving at the top! After Lowe contributed to Saints situation he should do the job for free.And as for Wilde who changes his mind more frequently than my wife...JUST RESIGN NOW WE DON'T WANT YOU!
Posted by: Dan, soton on 9:30am Mon 19 May 08
Welldone to Portsmouth for winning the cup.
Now.... lets have this straight 'Crew'... you bang on about passion, commitment etc blah blah blah... you took under 200 to Everton this season and a similar number to the majority of your away fixtures... please note that this number is significantly below the traveling support that we took to our away fixtures (despite the fact that we play in a lower league and at less glamorous venues)...
I should also point out that you had 200,000 people turn out for your victory parade yesterday... apparently that is more than the total population of the city... When you also consider the often less than capacity crowds of Fratton Park it appears to demonstrate a HUGE volume of fickle and false Pompey 'fans' (of which you are probably one).
All that said, I personally think that Portsmouth deserve to win the cup this year and I am pleased for all of the genuine supporters. I also think that fair recognition of Cardiff's efforts - they played some decent football and with the exception of Enckleman and Floyd Hasselbank, I thought they were a credit to the championship.
COYR!!!
Welldone to Portsmouth for winning the cup.
Now.... lets have this straight 'Crew'... you bang on about passion, commitment etc blah blah blah... you took under 200 to Everton this season and a similar number to the majority of your away fixtures... please note that this number is significantly below the traveling support that we took to our away fixtures (despite the fact that we play in a lower league and at less glamorous venues)...
I should also point out that you had 200,000 people turn out for your victory parade yesterday... apparently that is more than the total population of the city... When you also consider the often less than capacity crowds of Fratton Park it appears to demonstrate a HUGE volume of fickle and false Pompey 'fans' (of which you are probably one).
All that said, I personally think that Portsmouth deserve to win the cup this year and I am pleased for all of the genuine supporters. I also think that fair recognition of Cardiff's efforts - they played some decent football and with the exception of Enckleman and Floyd Hasselbank, I thought they were a credit to the championship.
COYR!!!
Posted by: Ciaran on 9:43am Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Season Ticket Holder[/bold] wrote:
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story.
In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.[/quote] I don't see what your problem with this story is.
How many fans knew Saints weren't releasing their retained list? I didn't, and I like to keep of all the Saints' news I can get my hands on.
I can never understand why people slag off the Echo's coverage, but then still continue to read it.
Season Ticket Holder wrote:
Thanks echo - a great "dog chases cat" story.
In this situation who would operate any differently than this? We cannot tell whether Wilde and Lowe have made their minds up about Pearson - but time will tell.
I don't see what your problem with this story is.
How many fans knew Saints weren't releasing their retained list? I didn't, and I like to keep of all the Saints' news I can get my hands on.
I can never understand why people slag off the Echo's coverage, but then still continue to read it.
Posted by: red saint on 9:48am Mon 19 May 08
What are peoples thoughts on this Keigan Parker who we r rumoured 2 b signing from blackpool on a free?
What are peoples thoughts on this Keigan Parker who we r rumoured 2 b signing from blackpool on a free?
Posted by: Saint on 9:56am Mon 19 May 08
Turn coat Wilde and Lowe, why have you come back? Appart from looking after your own investment. It is very clear already, you have no way and are not trying to bridge this finacial gap.
The simple point is do you really want this club to be successful at the top or not? Your action to date shown very much the latta!
The answer is this club needs one thing, and one thing only NOW, is investment! Stop dishing out this crap of the sad state of the finacial affairs is and hind behind this (this is very much both of your doing as well!), and have jobs for many years to come while this great club struggles in this league.
So why come if you are not going to invest in the team and show some passion to push us up and out of this league this coming season?
Turn coat Wilde and Lowe, why have you come back? Appart from looking after your own investment. It is very clear already, you have no way and are not trying to bridge this finacial gap.
The simple point is do you really want this club to be successful at the top or not? Your action to date shown very much the latta!
The answer is this club needs one thing, and one thing only NOW, is investment! Stop dishing out this crap of the sad state of the finacial affairs is and hind behind this (this is very much both of your doing as well!), and have jobs for many years to come while this great club struggles in this league.
So why come if you are not going to invest in the team and show some passion to push us up and out of this league this coming season?
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 10:15am Mon 19 May 08
Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn't make sense.
The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made.
But they won't publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes.
A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn't make any sense either.
What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.
Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn't make sense.
The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made.
But they won't publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes.
A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn't make any sense either.
What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.
Posted by: Simon Templar, Woolston on 10:32am Mon 19 May 08
Lowe doesn't want investment, he wants a wage out of the good people of Southampton. We owe him that don't we, as he has 6% of the shares? In fact, no, I don't think he gives anything back in return for his pound of flesh, so we should stop going until he realises he has bled the well dry and then maybe he will clear off and sell his shares for a reasonable figure for someone who wants to run the club and invest in it.
As Tracey said, the fans aren't holding any aces, Askham gave him a strong hand to bluff his way though this and spread out the winnings to the his little cabal.
Worse thing we can do is give him more money to strengthen his position. We ahve to realise we will have to sink even lower if we have any hope of one day regaining our status in the top flight.
Lowe doesn't want investment, he wants a wage out of the good people of Southampton. We owe him that don't we, as he has 6% of the shares? In fact, no, I don't think he gives anything back in return for his pound of flesh, so we should stop going until he realises he has bled the well dry and then maybe he will clear off and sell his shares for a reasonable figure for someone who wants to run the club and invest in it.
As Tracey said, the fans aren't holding any aces, Askham gave him a strong hand to bluff his way though this and spread out the winnings to the his little cabal.
Worse thing we can do is give him more money to strengthen his position. We ahve to realise we will have to sink even lower if we have any hope of one day regaining our status in the top flight.
Posted by: crew 657., new forest on 10:33am Mon 19 May 08
I've had a good long think, and know I realise that I have been rather foolish on these boards.
Please accept my sincere apologies, I truly thought what I was doing was in good nature but apparently it's not.
I've always had a soft spot for the saints and hope you are back up in the prem where you belong soon so we can enjoy a good natured derby, COYR!
I've had a good long think, and know I realise that I have been rather foolish on these boards.
Please accept my sincere apologies, I truly thought what I was doing was in good nature but apparently it's not.
I've always had a soft spot for the saints and hope you are back up in the prem where you belong soon so we can enjoy a good natured derby, COYR!
Posted by: J, Thornhill, Southampton on 10:36am Mon 19 May 08
To all of you so called 'Pompey' fans... Get a life! I couldn't believe it that on Saturday at around 6.15ish there was some sad loser pompey fan driving down through town, past StMary's beeping his horn and waving a Pompey scarf out of his sunroof mouthing off to everyone who was walking past (regardless as to whether they even cared about football), shouting abuse and all sorts! I'm sure he was driving so fast he got caught by a speed camera as he was too scared and too much of a little boy to even bothering stopping once. Why I ask when Portsmouth actually win something would anyone want to drive 20 miles down the road to do this? I was suprised they wasn't just celabrating? Oh I forgot they haven't got the knowledge to know how to enjoy theirselves properly, just remembered what they did to their own town when they beat us at Fratton park. Oh and what apprenely the so called cult hero AKA dickehead John Westwood Portsmouth, or whatever his name is did at St Mary's, yeah when the great 'fan' himself urinated on the seats. What a great fanbase Portsmouth have lmao.
On the current and more important situation, I think that some of the so called deadwood will be kept on because the vast majority of them improved towards the end of the season and without having any money they unfortuantely cover positions taht we are very short of. By the way I would keep Jermaine Wright on as he does seem to play better away from home and he is one of our only players that can actually tackle and people, think of the assists he made, especially to some very important goals.
They must also keep Pearson! Come on you reds!!
To all of you so called 'Pompey' fans... Get a life! I couldn't believe it that on Saturday at around 6.15ish there was some sad loser pompey fan driving down through town, past StMary's beeping his horn and waving a Pompey scarf out of his sunroof mouthing off to everyone who was walking past (regardless as to whether they even cared about football), shouting abuse and all sorts! I'm sure he was driving so fast he got caught by a speed camera as he was too scared and too much of a little boy to even bothering stopping once. Why I ask when Portsmouth actually win something would anyone want to drive 20 miles down the road to do this? I was suprised they wasn't just celabrating? Oh I forgot they haven't got the knowledge to know how to enjoy theirselves properly, just remembered what they did to their own town when they beat us at Fratton park. Oh and what apprenely the so called cult hero AKA dickehead John Westwood Portsmouth, or whatever his name is did at St Mary's, yeah when the great 'fan' himself urinated on the seats. What a great fanbase Portsmouth have lmao.
On the current and more important situation, I think that some of the so called deadwood will be kept on because the vast majority of them improved towards the end of the season and without having any money they unfortuantely cover positions taht we are very short of. By the way I would keep Jermaine Wright on as he does seem to play better away from home and he is one of our only players that can actually tackle and people, think of the assists he made, especially to some very important goals.
They must also keep Pearson! Come on you reds!!
Posted by: Rupert, St Marys Stadium on 11:39am Mon 19 May 08
Retained List.
Adam Lallanna - will be sold - should get £400,000 development compensation. Enough to cover the cost of my new Bentley and a holiday to the Seychelles.
Andrew Surman - will be sold - looking for just under a million - not as much tax to pay if we keep the price low.
Nathan Dyer - will be released - I hear my old mate Harry is after him - hope he flourishes at Portsmouth.
David McGoldrick - will be sold - I expect to get about £200,000 for him.
Andrew Davies - we have to sell this one - we paid approx one million, so we should be able to recoup about £500,000.
Cedric Baseya - clearly one for the future - therefore we should sell now and try and get at least £100,000.
Bartoz Bialkowski - will be sold, or released, not sure which yet.
Michael Poke - will try and get a fee for this one.
Simon Gillett - definately to be sold. I would expect to sell for somewhere near to £150,000.
Kelvin Davis - offer new 4 year contract @ £10,000 per week.
Darren Powell - new 3 year contract @ £8,000.00 per week.
Chris Makin - try and talk out of retirement and offer new 2 year deal.
Wayne Thomas - unsure who this player is, will look into.
Marek Saganowski - again I dont know this jolly fellow but will try and find out where he plays.
Jermaine Wright - our utility man - new 5 year contract making him the highest paid player in the clubs history (also will rename the stadium after him).
Jason Euell - once again - I am unfamiliar with this player but I'm told he is a donkey (I can only assume this means he has a ferocious kick).
Oliver Lancashire - heard reports some Premier League clubs had been watching him. Will be sold.
Stern John - Trinidad and Tobago international so I'm told (must have changed his name from Kenwyne Jones) has a good scoring record - release on a free to save money.
Bradley Wright-Phillips - doesnt he summarise on Match Of The Day? Release anyway.
Mario Licka - sell or release - again cant remember this jolly little import.
Alexander Ostlund - wait until the scandinavian is almost crippled through injury then offer a new one year deal.
Inigo Idiakez - A player in his prime - new 3 year deal with option of a 4th year.
Jhon Viafara - A box to box player so I'm told (unsure what that means but will ask Michael). Keep for the time being.
Adam Hammill - allow to go back to Liverpool and make no attempt to buy (see Danny Guthrie and Darren Potter).
Gregory Vignal - send back to France. We dont need a left back.
Chris Perry - not old enough for a new deal.
Chris Lucketti - try and sign in January.
Claus Lundekvam - cancel testimonial - no time for sentiment here - it is a business.
Youseff Safri - Captian. Had better keep for a further year to show the support we have a leader on the pitch.
Nigel Pearson - a little too enthusiastic and popular for my liking - sack as soon as possible - should be able to find a job somewhere else.
Retained List.
Adam Lallanna - will be sold - should get £400,000 development compensation. Enough to cover the cost of my new Bentley and a holiday to the Seychelles.
Andrew Surman - will be sold - looking for just under a million - not as much tax to pay if we keep the price low.
Nathan Dyer - will be released - I hear my old mate Harry is after him - hope he flourishes at Portsmouth.
David McGoldrick - will be sold - I expect to get about £200,000 for him.
Andrew Davies - we have to sell this one - we paid approx one million, so we should be able to recoup about £500,000.
Cedric Baseya - clearly one for the future - therefore we should sell now and try and get at least £100,000.
Bartoz Bialkowski - will be sold, or released, not sure which yet.
Michael Poke - will try and get a fee for this one.
Simon Gillett - definately to be sold. I would expect to sell for somewhere near to £150,000.
Kelvin Davis - offer new 4 year contract @ £10,000 per week.
Darren Powell - new 3 year contract @ £8,000.00 per week.
Chris Makin - try and talk out of retirement and offer new 2 year deal.
Wayne Thomas - unsure who this player is, will look into.
Marek Saganowski - again I dont know this jolly fellow but will try and find out where he plays.
Jermaine Wright - our utility man - new 5 year contract making him the highest paid player in the clubs history (also will rename the stadium after him).
Jason Euell - once again - I am unfamiliar with this player but I'm told he is a donkey (I can only assume this means he has a ferocious kick).
Oliver Lancashire - heard reports some Premier League clubs had been watching him. Will be sold.
Stern John - Trinidad and Tobago international so I'm told (must have changed his name from Kenwyne Jones) has a good scoring record - release on a free to save money.
Bradley Wright-Phillips - doesnt he summarise on Match Of The Day? Release anyway.
Mario Licka - sell or release - again cant remember this jolly little import.
Alexander Ostlund - wait until the scandinavian is almost crippled through injury then offer a new one year deal.
Inigo Idiakez - A player in his prime - new 3 year deal with option of a 4th year.
Jhon Viafara - A box to box player so I'm told (unsure what that means but will ask Michael). Keep for the time being.
Adam Hammill - allow to go back to Liverpool and make no attempt to buy (see Danny Guthrie and Darren Potter).
Gregory Vignal - send back to France. We dont need a left back.
Chris Perry - not old enough for a new deal.
Chris Lucketti - try and sign in January.
Claus Lundekvam - cancel testimonial - no time for sentiment here - it is a business.
Youseff Safri - Captian. Had better keep for a further year to show the support we have a leader on the pitch.
Nigel Pearson - a little too enthusiastic and popular for my liking - sack as soon as possible - should be able to find a job somewhere else.
Posted by: Lowe OUT on 11:43am Mon 19 May 08
Lowe and WIlde out
Posted by: Saint Paul, Brockenhurst on 11:57am Mon 19 May 08
To the person who called himself Rupert. You have obviously got too much time on your hands. Secondly I would build the team around Euell. That's providing we can stop him going to Real Madrid.
To the person who called himself Rupert. You have obviously got too much time on your hands. Secondly I would build the team around Euell. That's providing we can stop him going to Real Madrid.
Posted by: Ric Flair on 12:02pm Mon 19 May 08
[bold]Saints keeping retained list under wraps[/bold]
Well it cant be more easier than me retaining my World Heavyweight Championship
Saints keeping retained list under wraps
Well it cant be more easier than me retaining my World Heavyweight Championship
Posted by: Alex, Southampton on 12:05pm Mon 19 May 08
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
Posted by: Rupert, St Marys Stadium on 12:09pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Saint Paul[/bold] wrote:
To the person who called himself Rupert. You have obviously got too much time on your hands. Secondly I would build the team around Euell. That's providing we can stop him going to Real Madrid.[/quote] Of course I have lots of time on my hands.
I've just regained the position as chairman of a lower league soccer club and have brought back Michael Wilde (or whipping boy to all other board members) to carry the can once more.
But now I must go i'm afrid. I have to invest my recent windfall in something worthwhile.
Toodle-pip old chum.
Saint Paul wrote:
To the person who called himself Rupert. You have obviously got too much time on your hands. Secondly I would build the team around Euell. That's providing we can stop him going to Real Madrid.
Of course I have lots of time on my hands.
I've just regained the position as chairman of a lower league soccer club and have brought back Michael Wilde (or whipping boy to all other board members) to carry the can once more.
But now I must go i'm afrid. I have to invest my recent windfall in something worthwhile.
Toodle-pip old chum.
Posted by: Rupert, St Marys Stadium on 12:11pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] I'm trying to.
Please give me enough time to sack the current head coach (Nigel Pearson I think someone said it is) and my darling Glenn will be back in charge (and under my command).
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
I'm trying to.
Please give me enough time to sack the current head coach (Nigel Pearson I think someone said it is) and my darling Glenn will be back in charge (and under my command).
Posted by: Rupert, St Marys Stadium on 12:12pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we\'ll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] I'm trying to.
Please give me enough time to sack the current head coach (Nigel Pearson I think someone said it is) and my darling Glenn will be back in charge (and under my command).
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we\'ll be back in the prem before you know it!
I'm trying to.
Please give me enough time to sack the current head coach (Nigel Pearson I think someone said it is) and my darling Glenn will be back in charge (and under my command).
Posted by: Ciaran on 12:12pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] He's got to much cash tied up in his academy in Spain, so wouldn't come even if he was approached.
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
He's got to much cash tied up in his academy in Spain, so wouldn't come even if he was approached.
Posted by: Dan, soton on 12:19pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] Back in the prem?.... come on!!! you must mean like he managed to get Wolves into the prem???
Remember we have no resource, will lose many of our playing squad... and wont be signing anyone of note in the foreseeable future...
Our ambition must be to retain Pearson, aim for mid table security... gain somme financial stability and then look at the future.
COYR!!!
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
Back in the prem?.... come on!!! you must mean like he managed to get Wolves into the prem???
Remember we have no resource, will lose many of our playing squad... and wont be signing anyone of note in the foreseeable future...
Our ambition must be to retain Pearson, aim for mid table security... gain somme financial stability and then look at the future.
COYR!!!
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 12:48pm Mon 19 May 08
I have to say I for one was not happy about Lowe coming back as I was glad he went the first time but it has happened. Now I can only assume or hope more than anything that he is not stupid enough to make any decisions to provoke further hatred in himself.
If he is smart and I believe he may well be then he will have 2 things in the pipeline. The first thing is securing investment from abroad...the finances will be important to any invester so he will have to demonstrate to them where any cut backs can be made...and how our financial stability will be secured. The list from Pearson will obviously have squad changes included in this so hopefully keeping him on and getting these done then any investment can be brought in to strengthen and get us back in the Premiership.
Pearson has to be retained he is a good upandcoming coach and can nurture the youngsters we have which will provide further long term stability.
I have to say I for one was not happy about Lowe coming back as I was glad he went the first time but it has happened. Now I can only assume or hope more than anything that he is not stupid enough to make any decisions to provoke further hatred in himself.
If he is smart and I believe he may well be then he will have 2 things in the pipeline. The first thing is securing investment from abroad...the finances will be important to any invester so he will have to demonstrate to them where any cut backs can be made...and how our financial stability will be secured. The list from Pearson will obviously have squad changes included in this so hopefully keeping him on and getting these done then any investment can be brought in to strengthen and get us back in the Premiership.
Pearson has to be retained he is a good upandcoming coach and can nurture the youngsters we have which will provide further long term stability.
Posted by: Kabba, Millbrook on 1:03pm Mon 19 May 08
have heard rumblings comming out of st marys from a source that nigel pearsons gonna be offered a new contract at 250k
dos'ent sound like much money to me compared to what most football managers are on, so if this is true does anyone think he should accept this, considering what he's done for us so far?
have heard rumblings comming out of st marys from a source that nigel pearsons gonna be offered a new contract at 250k
dos'ent sound like much money to me compared to what most football managers are on, so if this is true does anyone think he should accept this, considering what he's done for us so far?
Posted by: you've got to be kidding?, La La Land apparently on 1:28pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 1:36pm Mon 19 May 08
Hoddle was a much better manager than Strachan. He took the players left to him from Dave Jones and made them into the team that Strachan used to make his name after getting Coventry relegated.
Hoddle was a much better manager than Strachan. He took the players left to him from Dave Jones and made them into the team that Strachan used to make his name after getting Coventry relegated.
Posted by: Eaststander, London on 1:44pm Mon 19 May 08
I hope lowe was the one who decided what players will be kept on and who will be released. Everyone knows his football knowledge is unrivaled. What people dont know is he coached le tiss, the wallace brothers and shearer and made them into what they were. Thats why mr lowe is justified in claiming he is responsible for all the young players to come out of saints..
I hope lowe was the one who decided what players will be kept on and who will be released. Everyone knows his football knowledge is unrivaled. What people dont know is he coached le tiss, the wallace brothers and shearer and made them into what they were. Thats why mr lowe is justified in claiming he is responsible for all the young players to come out of saints..
Posted by: Al on 2:20pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] Sorry mate i have to dissagree
STRACHAN is the best manager Saints have hade in the pat 20 years, certainly not hoddle.
I happilly agree though that Bates and McMenemy are the best Saints managers all time.
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
Sorry mate i have to dissagree
STRACHAN is the best manager Saints have hade in the pat 20 years, certainly not hoddle.
I happilly agree though that Bates and McMenemy are the best Saints managers all time.
Posted by: dave, Millbrook on 2:43pm Mon 19 May 08
LOWE OUT.
AND WILDE OUT AS WELL WHILE I'M AT IT!
LOWE OUT.
AND WILDE OUT AS WELL WHILE I'M AT IT!
Posted by: dave, Millbrook on 2:46pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]you've got to be kidding?[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote: Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.[/quote] STRACHEN WAS OUR BEST MANAGER SINCE LAWRIE MAC.WHAT EXACTLY WAS IT THAT HODDLE ACHIEVED WITH SFC?
you've got to be kidding? wrote:
Alex wrote: Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.
STRACHEN WAS OUR BEST MANAGER SINCE LAWRIE MAC.WHAT EXACTLY WAS IT THAT HODDLE ACHIEVED WITH SFC?
Posted by: Big Dave on 2:57pm Mon 19 May 08
I just saw Lowe and JOSE MOURINHO in The Clump at Chilworth, talking about Jose putting 50million in, keeping Nigel as his number 2.
Apparently Jason Euell staying is the problem, Jose wants him to stay, but Lowe wants to go for Ronaldo + cash, with Euell going to Man U.
I just saw Lowe and JOSE MOURINHO in The Clump at Chilworth, talking about Jose putting 50million in, keeping Nigel as his number 2.
Apparently Jason Euell staying is the problem, Jose wants him to stay, but Lowe wants to go for Ronaldo + cash, with Euell going to Man U.
Posted by: Earl Hickey on 3:03pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]dave[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]you've got to be kidding?[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote: Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.[/quote] STRACHEN WAS OUR BEST MANAGER SINCE LAWRIE MAC.WHAT EXACTLY WAS IT THAT HODDLE ACHIEVED WITH SFC?[/quote] [italic]"My beliefs have evolved in the last eight or nine years, that the spirit has to come back again, that is nothing new, that has been around for thousands of years. You have to come back to learn and face some of the things you have done, good and bad. There are too many injustices around."
"You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains. Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow, you have to reap."
"You have to look at things that happened in your life and ask why. It comes around." Glenn Hoddle.[/italic]
[bold]What you sow, you have to reap.[/bold]
He f**ked off, so he can f**k off. End of.
dave wrote:
you've got to be kidding? wrote: Alex wrote: Bring back Glenn Hoddle! Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy. Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so... If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
so you would rank Glen Hoddle ahead of WGS would you? That is laughable in the extreme and undermines the rest of your (already pretty weak) argument.
STRACHEN WAS OUR BEST MANAGER SINCE LAWRIE MAC.WHAT EXACTLY WAS IT THAT HODDLE ACHIEVED WITH SFC?
"My beliefs have evolved in the last eight or nine years, that the spirit has to come back again, that is nothing new, that has been around for thousands of years. You have to come back to learn and face some of the things you have done, good and bad. There are too many injustices around."
"You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains. Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow, you have to reap."
"You have to look at things that happened in your life and ask why. It comes around." Glenn Hoddle.
What you sow, you have to reap.
He f**ked off, so he can f**k off. End of.
Posted by: Gripper, Winch on 3:07pm Mon 19 May 08
Condor Man, which manager is out of work and which one had Celtic punching above their weight this season in the Champs League, and seemingly about to beat the UEFA Cup finalists to the Scots Prem? Good managers don't stay out of work for long. Hoddle has.
Condor Man, which manager is out of work and which one had Celtic punching above their weight this season in the Champs League, and seemingly about to beat the UEFA Cup finalists to the Scots Prem? Good managers don't stay out of work for long. Hoddle has.
Posted by: Costa Baz on 3:10pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Jason[/bold] wrote:
Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn\'t make sense. The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made. But they won\'t publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes. A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn\'t make any sense either. What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.[/quote] [italic]The deadline for clubs to complete the retained list detailing those out of contract players offered new deals and those released was last Friday.
Saints met the deadline but unlike most other sides do not intend to make the names of those kept on public at this moment in time.[/italic]
Jason, if the deadline to submit the list was Friday, I'm not sure any new manager would have any say in "who stays or goes", as you claim.
What is of more concern is who actually drew up the list?
Hopefully NP will have been consulted, which may indicate that he is being kept on and can start reducing the squad size sooner rather than later.
Hopefully the necessary savings can be made by releasing the worst out of contract players and not by selling the better players, who should be kept to form the nucleus of the squad.
I hope there will be suitable free transfer players of a decent standard, with hunger in their bellies, available to supplement the core players.
There will also be the possibility to offer new contracts, at reduced wages to some of the better out of contract players, assuming they don't get better offers else where.
Jason wrote:
Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn\'t make sense. The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made. But they won\'t publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes. A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn\'t make any sense either. What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.
The deadline for clubs to complete the retained list detailing those out of contract players offered new deals and those released was last Friday.
Saints met the deadline but unlike most other sides do not intend to make the names of those kept on public at this moment in time.
Jason, if the deadline to submit the list was Friday, I'm not sure any new manager would have any say in "who stays or goes", as you claim.
What is of more concern is who actually drew up the list?
Hopefully NP will have been consulted, which may indicate that he is being kept on and can start reducing the squad size sooner rather than later.
Hopefully the necessary savings can be made by releasing the worst out of contract players and not by selling the better players, who should be kept to form the nucleus of the squad.
I hope there will be suitable free transfer players of a decent standard, with hunger in their bellies, available to supplement the core players.
There will also be the possibility to offer new contracts, at reduced wages to some of the better out of contract players, assuming they don't get better offers else where.
Posted by: St Mark, Northampton on 3:45pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Dan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Alex[/bold] wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it![/quote] Back in the prem?.... come on!!! you must mean like he managed to get Wolves into the prem???
Remember we have no resource, will lose many of our playing squad... and wont be signing anyone of note in the foreseeable future...
Our ambition must be to retain Pearson, aim for mid table security... gain somme financial stability and then look at the future.
COYR!!![/quote] Couldn't agree more Dan, consolidation is what we need this season.
By the way Alex; do you not remember a certain Gordon Strachan??? Did Glenn Hoddle achieve something that I missed??
Dan wrote:
Alex wrote:
Bring back Glenn Hoddle!
Hes the 3rd best manger the club have ever had, after Bates & McMenemy.
Sure he left us for Spurs. But why did he do that? Because he loved that club (and still does) he spent most of his playing days there and is a life long supporter). If you were in his position as a club like Tottenham and were offered a place as Saints manager, and more money, would you take it? I think so...
If we can get him back down here on long term we'll be back in the prem before you know it!
Back in the prem?.... come on!!! you must mean like he managed to get Wolves into the prem???
Remember we have no resource, will lose many of our playing squad... and wont be signing anyone of note in the foreseeable future...
Our ambition must be to retain Pearson, aim for mid table security... gain somme financial stability and then look at the future.
COYR!!!
Couldn't agree more Dan, consolidation is what we need this season.
By the way Alex; do you not remember a certain Gordon Strachan??? Did Glenn Hoddle achieve something that I missed??
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 3:59pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote:
Can anyone honestly say that we would be able to get anyone better for the money he must be on? I think he needs to be given a chance. C'mon Lowe and Wilde. Take a chance![/quote] How much is he on do you know?
SFC4EVA wrote:
Can anyone honestly say that we would be able to get anyone better for the money he must be on? I think he needs to be given a chance. C'mon Lowe and Wilde. Take a chance!
How much is he on do you know?
Posted by: Shane Dawson, Lordswood on 4:17pm Mon 19 May 08
commonsense that they do that, let's hope they use it again and keep pearson!
commonsense that they do that, let's hope they use it again and keep pearson!
Posted by: simon on 4:42pm Mon 19 May 08
I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
Posted by: Ric Flair on 4:48pm Mon 19 May 08
Bludy daily echo keep deleting my posts
The question is, will we and how do we replace the Released playes
The thing wrong with this club is that they prefere to get rid of players rather than bring any players in
Bludy daily echo keep deleting my posts
The question is, will we and how do we replace the Released playes
The thing wrong with this club is that they prefere to get rid of players rather than bring any players in
Posted by: Hedge End Saint, Hedge End on 5:15pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Big Dave[/bold] wrote:
I just saw Lowe and JOSE MOURINHO in The Clump at Chilworth, talking about Jose putting 50million in, keeping Nigel as his number 2. Apparently Jason Euell staying is the problem, Jose wants him to stay, but Lowe wants to go for Ronaldo + cash, with Euell going to Man U. [/quote] This story is so far fetched. Everyone knows its not called the Clump anymore!!
Big Dave wrote:
I just saw Lowe and JOSE MOURINHO in The Clump at Chilworth, talking about Jose putting 50million in, keeping Nigel as his number 2. Apparently Jason Euell staying is the problem, Jose wants him to stay, but Lowe wants to go for Ronaldo + cash, with Euell going to Man U.
This story is so far fetched. Everyone knows its not called the Clump anymore!!
Posted by: Clive, Soton on 5:20pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Rupert[/bold] wrote:
Retained List. Adam Lallanna - will be sold - should get £400,000 development compensation. Enough to cover the cost of my new Bentley and a holiday to the Seychelles. Andrew Surman - will be sold - looking for just under a million - not as much tax to pay if we keep the price low. Nathan Dyer - will be released - I hear my old mate Harry is after him - hope he flourishes at Portsmouth. David McGoldrick - will be sold - I expect to get about £200,000 for him. Andrew Davies - we have to sell this one - we paid approx one million, so we should be able to recoup about £500,000. Cedric Baseya - clearly one for the future - therefore we should sell now and try and get at least £100,000. Bartoz Bialkowski - will be sold, or released, not sure which yet. Michael Poke - will try and get a fee for this one. Simon Gillett - definately to be sold. I would expect to sell for somewhere near to £150,000. Kelvin Davis - offer new 4 year contract @ £10,000 per week. Darren Powell - new 3 year contract @ £8,000.00 per week. Chris Makin - try and talk out of retirement and offer new 2 year deal. Wayne Thomas - unsure who this player is, will look into. Marek Saganowski - again I dont know this jolly fellow but will try and find out where he plays. Jermaine Wright - our utility man - new 5 year contract making him the highest paid player in the clubs history (also will rename the stadium after him). Jason Euell - once again - I am unfamiliar with this player but I'm told he is a donkey (I can only assume this means he has a ferocious kick). Oliver Lancashire - heard reports some Premier League clubs had been watching him. Will be sold. Stern John - Trinidad and Tobago international so I'm told (must have changed his name from Kenwyne Jones) has a good scoring record - release on a free to save money. Bradley Wright-Phillips - doesnt he summarise on Match Of The Day? Release anyway. Mario Licka - sell or release - again cant remember this jolly little import. Alexander Ostlund - wait until the scandinavian is almost crippled through injury then offer a new one year deal. Inigo Idiakez - A player in his prime - new 3 year deal with option of a 4th year. Jhon Viafara - A box to box player so I'm told (unsure what that means but will ask Michael). Keep for the time being. Adam Hammill - allow to go back to Liverpool and make no attempt to buy (see Danny Guthrie and Darren Potter). Gregory Vignal - send back to France. We dont need a left back. Chris Perry - not old enough for a new deal. Chris Lucketti - try and sign in January. Claus Lundekvam - cancel testimonial - no time for sentiment here - it is a business. Youseff Safri - Captian. Had better keep for a further year to show the support we have a leader on the pitch. Nigel Pearson - a little too enthusiastic and popular for my liking - sack as soon as possible - should be able to find a job somewhere else.[/quote] God, you've got time on you're hands and talking rubbish at the same time. Sounds like you want the worst to happen.
Rupert wrote:
Retained List. Adam Lallanna - will be sold - should get £400,000 development compensation. Enough to cover the cost of my new Bentley and a holiday to the Seychelles. Andrew Surman - will be sold - looking for just under a million - not as much tax to pay if we keep the price low. Nathan Dyer - will be released - I hear my old mate Harry is after him - hope he flourishes at Portsmouth. David McGoldrick - will be sold - I expect to get about £200,000 for him. Andrew Davies - we have to sell this one - we paid approx one million, so we should be able to recoup about £500,000. Cedric Baseya - clearly one for the future - therefore we should sell now and try and get at least £100,000. Bartoz Bialkowski - will be sold, or released, not sure which yet. Michael Poke - will try and get a fee for this one. Simon Gillett - definately to be sold. I would expect to sell for somewhere near to £150,000. Kelvin Davis - offer new 4 year contract @ £10,000 per week. Darren Powell - new 3 year contract @ £8,000.00 per week. Chris Makin - try and talk out of retirement and offer new 2 year deal. Wayne Thomas - unsure who this player is, will look into. Marek Saganowski - again I dont know this jolly fellow but will try and find out where he plays. Jermaine Wright - our utility man - new 5 year contract making him the highest paid player in the clubs history (also will rename the stadium after him). Jason Euell - once again - I am unfamiliar with this player but I'm told he is a donkey (I can only assume this means he has a ferocious kick). Oliver Lancashire - heard reports some Premier League clubs had been watching him. Will be sold. Stern John - Trinidad and Tobago international so I'm told (must have changed his name from Kenwyne Jones) has a good scoring record - release on a free to save money. Bradley Wright-Phillips - doesnt he summarise on Match Of The Day? Release anyway. Mario Licka - sell or release - again cant remember this jolly little import. Alexander Ostlund - wait until the scandinavian is almost crippled through injury then offer a new one year deal. Inigo Idiakez - A player in his prime - new 3 year deal with option of a 4th year. Jhon Viafara - A box to box player so I'm told (unsure what that means but will ask Michael). Keep for the time being. Adam Hammill - allow to go back to Liverpool and make no attempt to buy (see Danny Guthrie and Darren Potter). Gregory Vignal - send back to France. We dont need a left back. Chris Perry - not old enough for a new deal. Chris Lucketti - try and sign in January. Claus Lundekvam - cancel testimonial - no time for sentiment here - it is a business. Youseff Safri - Captian. Had better keep for a further year to show the support we have a leader on the pitch. Nigel Pearson - a little too enthusiastic and popular for my liking - sack as soon as possible - should be able to find a job somewhere else.
God, you've got time on you're hands and talking rubbish at the same time. Sounds like you want the worst to happen.
Posted by: Saint on 5:22pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote:
I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference. [/quote] What total rubbish!
The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others.
It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde!
Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
simon wrote:
I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
What total rubbish!
The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others.
It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde!
Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
Posted by: Ciaran on 5:25pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote:
Bludy daily echo keep deleting my posts The question is, will we and how do we replace the Released playes The thing wrong with this club is that they prefere to get rid of players rather than bring any players in[/quote] Probably because you keep posting stuff about so-called wrestlers.
Ric Flair wrote:
Bludy daily echo keep deleting my posts The question is, will we and how do we replace the Released playes The thing wrong with this club is that they prefere to get rid of players rather than bring any players in
Probably because you keep posting stuff about so-called wrestlers.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 5:33pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference. [/quote] What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!![/quote] Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else.
It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run.
Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens.
The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave.
Saint wrote:
simon wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else.
It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run.
Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens.
The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave.
Posted by: Saint on 5:39pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference. [/quote] What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!![/quote] Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else. It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run. Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens. The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave. [/quote] Wrong!They are only custodians makeing money out of us.
It is supporters club, and they would not exist with out us!
John B wrote:
Saint wrote: simon wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else. It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run. Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens. The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave.
Wrong!They are only custodians makeing money out of us.
It is supporters club, and they would not exist with out us!
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 5:42pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote:
Hoddle was a much better manager than Strachan. He took the players left to him from Dave Jones and made them into the team that Strachan used to make his name after getting Coventry relegated.[/quote] Key word? "WAS"
Can we please move on. McMenemy was a better manager than Hoddle. Why don't we tempt him back? (Please get the irony!)
NP is perfect for us. I'm sure wupert doesn't want to have more than one manager in his first few weeks as chairman. That's a stat even he surely can't achieve.
Whoever NP picks to keep must be right for the club and the team, so that decision will get my support. As things are at the moment we are a selling club(although I supose we always have been). We need to get used to that fact as so many other clubs already have.
Condor Man wrote:
Hoddle was a much better manager than Strachan. He took the players left to him from Dave Jones and made them into the team that Strachan used to make his name after getting Coventry relegated.
Key word? "WAS"
Can we please move on. McMenemy was a better manager than Hoddle. Why don't we tempt him back? (Please get the irony!)
NP is perfect for us. I'm sure wupert doesn't want to have more than one manager in his first few weeks as chairman. That's a stat even he surely can't achieve.
Whoever NP picks to keep must be right for the club and the team, so that decision will get my support. As things are at the moment we are a selling club(although I supose we always have been). We need to get used to that fact as so many other clubs already have.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 5:49pm Mon 19 May 08
On this Echo site, you are given the option of, amongs others:
Sports Headlines,
Saints,
Football,
News.
Under none of these headings is there a mention that Portsmouth FC won the FA Cup on Saturday!
Are Echo readers, many of whom are Pompey supporters, so sensitive that they are to be protected from this news?
Are The Echo reporters unaware of this world-famous competition?
Could it be that they do not want to upset their pet 'Football Guru', the ever popular, spokesman for Saints supporters, Nick 'Taffy' Illingsworth?
Perhaps someone thinks that, if they don't report it, it didn't happen!
Is this a case of censorship gone berserk?
On this Echo site, you are given the option of, amongs others:
Sports Headlines,
Saints,
Football,
News.
Under none of these headings is there a mention that Portsmouth FC won the FA Cup on Saturday!
Are Echo readers, many of whom are Pompey supporters, so sensitive that they are to be protected from this news?
Are The Echo reporters unaware of this world-famous competition?
Could it be that they do not want to upset their pet 'Football Guru', the ever popular, spokesman for Saints supporters, Nick 'Taffy' Illingsworth?
Perhaps someone thinks that, if they don't report it, it didn't happen!
Is this a case of censorship gone berserk?
Posted by: billy 2 baps on 5:54pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jason[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn\\\'t make sense. The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made. But they won\\\'t publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes. A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn\\\'t make any sense either. What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.[/quote] [italic]The deadline for clubs to complete the retained list detailing those out of contract players offered new deals and those released was last Friday. Saints met the deadline but unlike most other sides do not intend to make the names of those kept on public at this moment in time.[/italic] Jason, if the deadline to submit the list was Friday, I\'m not sure any new manager would have any say in \"who stays or goes\", as you claim. What is of more concern is who actually drew up the list? Hopefully NP will have been consulted, which may indicate that he is being kept on and can start reducing the squad size sooner rather than later. Hopefully the necessary savings can be made by releasing the worst out of contract players and not by selling the better players, who should be kept to form the nucleus of the squad. I hope there will be suitable free transfer players of a decent standard, with hunger in their bellies, available to supplement the core players. There will also be the possibility to offer new contracts, at reduced wages to some of the better out of contract players, assuming they don\'t get better offers else where. [/quote] Costa NP said after the last game he would be planning for the season ahead almost straight away. So let’s hope it’s he who has been complying the list. Maybe the fact it’s not being released is due to the fact Lowe & co need to look at the books. Players that are borderline may have to go, or end up being kept. Releasing these names would only generate interest from other clubs, possibly? I see the list on teamtalk with regards to players who should go/shown the door. Trouble is on their day most can play. It’s just a case can the manager motivate them.
Costa Baz wrote:
Jason wrote: Sorry, but this story and the excuse for not releasing the list doesn't make sense. The story states that the list has been submitted, so the decisions have obviously been made. But they won't publish the list because they want the manager to have a say in who stays or goes. A boring and pointless story anyway, but it doesn't make any sense either. What it does guarantee is that the names of the players let go will be leaked anyway in the next couple of days, making it all nice and messy.
The deadline for clubs to complete the retained list detailing those out of contract players offered new deals and those released was last Friday. Saints met the deadline but unlike most other sides do not intend to make the names of those kept on public at this moment in time. Jason, if the deadline to submit the list was Friday, I\'m not sure any new manager would have any say in \"who stays or goes\", as you claim. What is of more concern is who actually drew up the list? Hopefully NP will have been consulted, which may indicate that he is being kept on and can start reducing the squad size sooner rather than later. Hopefully the necessary savings can be made by releasing the worst out of contract players and not by selling the better players, who should be kept to form the nucleus of the squad. I hope there will be suitable free transfer players of a decent standard, with hunger in their bellies, available to supplement the core players. There will also be the possibility to offer new contracts, at reduced wages to some of the better out of contract players, assuming they don\'t get better offers else where.
Costa NP said after the last game he would be planning for the season ahead almost straight away. So let’s hope it’s he who has been complying the list. Maybe the fact it’s not being released is due to the fact Lowe & co need to look at the books. Players that are borderline may have to go, or end up being kept. Releasing these names would only generate interest from other clubs, possibly? I see the list on teamtalk with regards to players who should go/shown the door. Trouble is on their day most can play. It’s just a case can the manager motivate them.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 5:54pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference. [/quote] What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!![/quote] Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else. It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run. Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens. The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave. [/quote] Wrong!They are only custodians makeing money out of us. It is supporters club, and they would not exist with out us![/quote] Yes you are right they would not exist with out us neither would Tesco's.
Why you said wrong I dont know .
Money is only really made if the team is successful.
The team will only be successful if we fully support SFC if not I am not sure what will happen
Saint wrote:
John B wrote: Saint wrote: simon wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else. It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run. Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens. The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave.
Wrong!They are only custodians makeing money out of us. It is supporters club, and they would not exist with out us!
Yes you are right they would not exist with out us neither would Tesco's.
Why you said wrong I dont know .
Money is only really made if the team is successful.
The team will only be successful if we fully support SFC if not I am not sure what will happen
Posted by: sainth, southampton on 5:55pm Mon 19 May 08
Well said John B. The club belongs to the thousands of Saints fans who turn up week in week out. The shareholders may own the club financially but these can always be replaced. You cannot replace 20-30,000 loyal Saints fans. If we did not turn up then there would be no club. NP must stay. COYR
Well said John B. The club belongs to the thousands of Saints fans who turn up week in week out. The shareholders may own the club financially but these can always be replaced. You cannot replace 20-30,000 loyal Saints fans. If we did not turn up then there would be no club. NP must stay. COYR
Posted by: Bored on 5:56pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
On this Echo site, you are given the option of, amongs others: Sports Headlines, Saints, Football, News. Under none of these headings is there a mention that Portsmouth FC won the FA Cup on Saturday! Are Echo readers, many of whom are Pompey supporters, so sensitive that they are to be protected from this news? Are The Echo reporters unaware of this world-famous competition? Could it be that they do not want to upset their pet 'Football Guru', the ever popular, spokesman for Saints supporters, Nick 'Taffy' Illingsworth? Perhaps someone thinks that, if they don't report it, it didn't happen! Is this a case of censorship gone berserk? [/quote] Or they realise that we just don't care.....
sailor sam wrote:
On this Echo site, you are given the option of, amongs others: Sports Headlines, Saints, Football, News. Under none of these headings is there a mention that Portsmouth FC won the FA Cup on Saturday! Are Echo readers, many of whom are Pompey supporters, so sensitive that they are to be protected from this news? Are The Echo reporters unaware of this world-famous competition? Could it be that they do not want to upset their pet 'Football Guru', the ever popular, spokesman for Saints supporters, Nick 'Taffy' Illingsworth? Perhaps someone thinks that, if they don't report it, it didn't happen! Is this a case of censorship gone berserk?
Or they realise that we just don't care.....
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 6:03pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]sainth[/bold] wrote:
Well said John B. The club belongs to the thousands of Saints fans who turn up week in week out. The shareholders may own the club financially but these can always be replaced. You cannot replace 20-30,000 loyal Saints fans. If we did not turn up then there would be no club. NP must stay. COYR[/quote] You are right Sainth.
But although it would probably good idea for NP to stay it would not be a disaster if he went it would however be a disaster if our finances are not regulated and we fell into administration.
sainth wrote:
Well said John B. The club belongs to the thousands of Saints fans who turn up week in week out. The shareholders may own the club financially but these can always be replaced. You cannot replace 20-30,000 loyal Saints fans. If we did not turn up then there would be no club. NP must stay. COYR
You are right Sainth.
But although it would probably good idea for NP to stay it would not be a disaster if he went it would however be a disaster if our finances are not regulated and we fell into administration.
Posted by: Saint on 6:12pm Mon 19 May 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]simon[/bold] wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference. [/quote] What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!![/quote] Unfortunately Simon is correct if you do not like how the club is being run go somewhere else. It is not your club it belongs to the share holders and they want Lowe and Wilde to run it the way they see it should be run. Of course you can have opinions but there is so much you and I dont know about the running of the club we will just have to accept what happens. The populist view of spending what we have not got will not work and if Pearson wants more than is thought to be on offer he will leave. [/quote] Wrong!They are only custodians makeing money out of us. It is supporters club, and they would not exist with out us![/quote] Yes you are right they would not exist with out us neither would Tesco's. Why you said wrong I dont know . Money is only really made if the team is successful. The team will only be successful if we fully support SFC if not I am not sure what will happen[/quote] Some of what you say is true, but misplaced.
We are not like Tesco, only as far as providing a service. The club is not there for say Man U supporters in the north.
It is and I have said many times a money game now. Though investment and investing in the team will only bring success!
Saints fans always show their support, the best in the country! But to fully support your team when you do not have the quality to achive goals in the game so to speak will not happen with these guys. Especially turn coat Wilde!
So the point is it is hard to support the board, but the Southampton F.C. comes from the heart!!
John B wrote:
Saint wrote: John B wrote: Saint wrote: simon wrote: I think some people have problems with their basic comprehension skills. Lowe and Wilde have just taken over and here to stay for the foreseeable future, so get over it. Regardless of how we got into this position, the fact is that major surgery is now required. So whatever Lowe and Wilde do from this point forward is going to be unpopular. All credit to them that they are not interested in a popularity contest, but just want to get get the Company back on its feet. If greed is their sole motivation, then that works for me! The point is if you want a club at all, get with the program. There are 91 other clubs to choose from if you don't like what's going on, but you're irrational griping isn't going to make any difference.
What total rubbish! The fact that we are in this position is as much down to them as others. It also dose not mean a thing when you say they are not in a popularity contest,(you sound like you speak as one of them) as to date they have failed on too many fronts which means they have failed us! Especially turn coat Wilde! Also if you support Saints, that is your club for life! How dare you suggest to look elsewfere for a club! That is the point you obviously miss. We got no choice but to support this club, but this dose not mean these guys are the right people to run our club. Supporters of Saints only want to see passion and committment from them to deliver success for this great club, which we deserve. Simply they are not up too it, AND NO I WILL NOT GO AND SUPPORT MAN U ETC TO GET IT!!
Unfortunately Simon i
