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9:42am Monday 12th March 2007
HUNDREDS of motorists caught by a speed camera on a major Southampton road have begun taking steps to claim back their fines.
As the Daily Echo reported, many could have their court convictions overturned because of a legal blunder.
The move comes after two drivers - Barrie Wells and Michael Halliwell - won appeals against breaking the speed limit after it emerged they were prosecuted under the wrong section of traffic law.
Their victory has paved the way for hundreds of motorists prosecuted after being clocked by the speed camera to have their cases reopened, fines repaid and penalty points cancelled.
Caught On separate occasions in October 2004 Mr Wells, 62, of Shirley, Southampton, and Mr Halliwell, 63, of Lymington, were caught speeding in a temporary 30mph zone on Redbridge Road.
Both thought the normal 50mph speed limit was in place and refused to pay their £60 fixed penalty notices, arguing that inadequate signing made them unaware of the temporary speed restriction introduced during repair work.
However, after a trial last year, each was found guilty, fined £150 and their licences endorsed with three penalty points.
They and their legal team lodged an appeal and had prepared a case on the inadequate signage, but in the end their appeal was upheld on a legal issue.
The crown court ruled that both men were wrongly prosecuted under section 89 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act, for permanent speed limits, rather than section 16, designed for temporary speed restrictions.
A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said it would study the appeal hearing ruling before deciding whether to launch its own appeal.
What the ruling means for drivers
THE appeal ruling affects any driver prosecuted in court after being caught out on Redbridge Road during the temporary speed restriction.
About 5,500 drivers are believed to have been caught exceeding the 30mph temporary speed restriction between September and December 2004, paying an estimated £300,000 in fines.
Most of these would have received fixed penalty notices through the post, paid their £60 fine and had their licences endorsed with three penalty points.
These drivers will not be able to get their money back because they were not prosecuted in court.
However, it is thought that hundreds of motorists among the 5,500 people clocked by the camera who were automatically summoned to court and prosecuted, could now apply to have their cases re-opened.
These would have been drivers who were caught driving excessively fast and those who had totted up 12 points on their licence.
About 80 people among the original 5,500 were summoned to court after refusing to pay their fixed penalty notices on the grounds that the temporary speed restriction signs were inadequate.
Some of these have been found guilty of speeding and can now also apply to have their cases reopened.
lake, southampton says...
1:07pm Mon 12 Mar 07
John, Soton says...
1:34pm Mon 12 Mar 07
lake wrote:What a load of rubbish. The camera identifies the car not the driver. Before a fixed penalty notice is issued, the owner of the car is asked who was driving it at the specfied time. That person is then the one penalised. In the event the owner can't that someone else was driving then they are penalised.
This story shows that you should challenge everything, even if you know you are guilty. My car was caught by a speed camera going 40 in a 30 and I asked to see photo evidence. Because the photo didnt show clearly who was driving, me or my partner I challenged it and after a few letters they dropped it. Those revenue grabbing gits can stick that in their pipes and smoke it.
Carol Arm, says...
4:10pm Mon 12 Mar 07
lake wrote:Do you look like your partner then, that's just a little freaky.
This story shows that you should challenge everything, even if you know you are guilty. My car was caught by a speed camera going 40 in a 30 and I asked to see photo evidence. Because the photo didnt show clearly who was driving, me or my partner I challenged it and after a few letters they dropped it. Those revenue grabbing gits can stick that in their pipes and smoke it.
lake, southampton says...
4:54pm Mon 12 Mar 07
Claire . B, says...
5:02pm Mon 12 Mar 07
John wrote:If it's was quote 'a load of rubbish' why did they drop it when he challenged them?? You are the one writting rubbish John.
lake wrote: This story shows that you should challenge everything, even if you know you are guilty. My car was caught by a speed camera going 40 in a 30 and I asked to see photo evidence. Because the photo didnt show clearly who was driving, me or my partner I challenged it and after a few letters they dropped it. Those revenue grabbing gits can stick that in their pipes and smoke it.What a load of rubbish. The camera identifies the car not the driver. Before a fixed penalty notice is issued, the owner of the car is asked who was driving it at the specfied time. That person is then the one penalised. In the event the owner can't that someone else was driving then they are penalised.
Tosh, new forest says...
11:54pm Mon 12 Mar 07
lake wrote:Sounds like you are a dandy with a "partner" who looks similar to you?
This story shows that you should challenge everything, even if you know you are guilty. My car was caught by a speed camera going 40 in a 30 and I asked to see photo evidence. Because the photo didnt show clearly who was driving, me or my partner I challenged it and after a few letters they dropped it. Those revenue grabbing gits can stick that in their pipes and smoke it.
lake, southampton says...
9:09am Tue 13 Mar 07
Stoker, Soton says...
12:54am Fri 16 Mar 07
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Paul, New Forest says...
10:11am Mon 12 Mar 07
Ah - so the drivers with the worst record are the ones that might get away with it? That makes sense, then.