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Privatisation is still on course

9:00am Thursday 22nd March 2007

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FINAL talks that could lead to the privatisation of key council services and up to 700 jobs were last night given the go ahead by South-ampton councillors.

Ignoring pleas from Labour councillors and unions, who staged a vocal demonstration of the steps of the Civic Centre, the Tories and ruling Liberal Democrats appointed Capita, a business "outsourcing" specialist, as the company to take on the job.

Southampton City Council will now thrash out the remaining details of a ten-year contract that would include services such as IT, customer care, property, human resources, payroll, council tax and benefits.

It could lead to the creation of a "regional business hub" that would act as an external call centre for the city council and could be used by other councils and services.

Proposing the move, council leader Adrian Vinson called it a "quantum leap in services" that would transform the council's financial prospects.

He said everyone was agreed that "no change was not an option", but recent strike action by 2,000 Unison members did not instill confidence that unions could deliver the "cultural change" needed for an in-house alternative.

Unions and the Labour group had argued the council could make the same savings and benefits by overhauling and modernising services themselves.

Labour also accused Lib Dems of breaking promises about phasing the privatisation in stages.

Flashing a black tie, Labour finance spokesman Peter Marsh-Jenks said: "This could be the funeral of huge swathes of council services."

He called the proposal a "dog's dinner" and threatened a post-May election Labour administration would obstruct any deal by all lawful means.

Labour leader June Bridle added: "No change is not an option, but it doesn't have to be this change."

Tory leader Alec Samuels said it would not be a funeral or shotgun wedding but a "happy marriage".

He said the deal would bring vital investment, better prospects and more opportunities for staff, and better services and value for taxpayers.

Branding the Labour councillors "old Labour" Cllr Samuels drew a rapturous applause from his opponents.

He deplored their threats of "coercion, intimidation and sabotage."

Cllr Vinson went on to label the Labour group "wreckers" who were "unfit" to mange the council.

Earlier Unison regional organiser Steve Brasier said told councillors the deal, dubbed a "strategic services partnership", was about driving down costs and maximising benefits for Capita shareholders.

Unison branch secretary Mike Tucker said councillors had chosen to ignore the views of the staff they employed.

"Councillor Vinson almost blamed the staff for having to use the private sector," he said.

Unison members - about one-sixth of the total council workforce - will now start a policy of non-co-operation from Wednesday.

The financial details of the proposed partnership were discussed behind closed doors during the three-hour debate.

Negotiations with Capita, which holds many large Government and council contracts elsewhere, will continue with a view to signing a contract in July.

Services and jobs could then be transferred on October 1.


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JMW, Southampton says...
10:49am Thu 22 Mar 07

Has there been public consultaion? There's nothing on the southampton.gov.uk website about it... and you can bet you won't be asked. If you were, I'm sure they'd be very 'economic' with the true cost to the public!

LAW, Southampton says...
12:03pm Thu 22 Mar 07

It's a fundamental mistake to outsource anything , it seldom saves money it sometimes lessens risk but in all my years in the IT industry I have never ever, ever, nor ever seen, nor now believe that it can work... too many conflicts of interest, no ownership, no care and no belief in the core business. I should know I worked for an FM dealer and know the backroom chat!!!

The council should be thinking about genration of money not saving!! Get rid of the Planning department staff and bring in fresh thinking new blood to get rid of the malaise in Southampton today! Make it a place worth investing in, not the continual traffic snarled, underinvested hole it's turning into!

LAW

Hands in the till, says...
5:14pm Thu 22 Mar 07

I'd like to know the real reason for the councillors voting for this, and can't wait to see who moves their snout from the public trough to the deeper swill bucket offered by Crapita.
Put it another way:- if it were in the city's best interests and those of the population, they would have been shouting it from the roof tops with endless glossy magazines and other PR rubbish.

KS, Southampton says...
5:44pm Thu 22 Mar 07

Anything that reduces the number our so-called public 'servants' is fine with me.

Jack, soton says...
6:45pm Thu 22 Mar 07

The only people to benifit from outsourceing are the managers at capitas.

Jobs that previously were done in hours will take days.

JMW, Southampton says...
7:00pm Thu 22 Mar 07

KS... you won't be saying that when your bins don't get emptied... your granny doesn't get a carer or a nursing home place... or when your call get sent to a queue in India!

cmen, soton says...
9:32pm Thu 22 Mar 07

It's high time, the pen pushers may now have to work and work to KPI's.

Ron C., Southampton says...
9:53pm Thu 22 Mar 07

This blatant disregard for the wishes of the people of Southampton is being carried out by Tory and Lib Dem councillors. The forthcoming local elections should reflect the untrustworthiness of those parties, and send them the message that we will not tolerate the abuse of democracy.

Angry Council Tax Payer, Southampton says...
10:12pm Thu 22 Mar 07

This proposal by the Tories and LibDems is utterly proposterous. How can you "Sell-Off" vital council services to a private company and expect it to save money! What about those poor council staff who will transfer to their new employers, if this goes ahead, only a few years down the line to find themselves out of a job. Also what about all the other Council services not covered by this contract? When you contact the council for something - the reply will be "sorry no money left to do it!".
The Local Elections are just around the corner. I urge people to think very carefully about what the Tories and LibDems have and are doing to this City. The time is right to show them what you really think - VOTE against such madness and get the lunatics out (lasers on the Civic Tower/transit sites/ bin collections/increase in Council tax)......

c.soton, says...
11:04pm Thu 22 Mar 07

cmen wrote:
It's high time, the pen pushers may now have to work and work to KPI's.
Crap! How would you know how hard these 'pen pushers' work? Maybe you would like to do their jobs because obviously someone as obnoxious and ignorant as you would do so much better???!!

Soton, Southampton says...
7:39am Fri 23 Mar 07

cmen wrote:
It's high time, the pen pushers may now have to work and work to KPI's.
You obviously don't work in the public sector and have no idea of how we perform... and how hard we work to try and make a difference to city residents - usually with no thanks... I invite you to work with me for the day.. perhaps then your ignorant attitude would change..

People like you make me so angry...

cmen, soton says...
4:58pm Sun 25 Mar 07

OOOO.
I think i've struck a nerve..
I have no desire to lower my standards and work in the "pubic Sector"

I work for a PLC and if you fail to meet set standards you soon get shown the door, unlike public sector people who hang on for ever, off with stress.. dead mans boots..

council worker, says...
11:01pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Obviously you are a very arrogant and rude individual.
Surely you should study contact law, and then you would see that companies don't simply 'show people the door' if they don't make a certain standard, there are procedures etc.
I do hope you're not a senior member of staff in your wonderful job because you've just proved that it does NOT seek people with certain standards. It just proves that you wouldn't be able to get a job in the public sector hence your employment in your perfect, narrow-minded, arrogant and pathetic company.
You're just jealous because we get better salaries.

cmen, soton says...
9:39am Mon 26 Mar 07

Typical myopic council worker thinking the big union will protect you.. not any longer sunshine get ur head from up your backside and see the real world.Employment law is so poor in this country you can pretty much do anything as an employer.What really annoys me is you go on about your good salary which i pay for, but not for too much longer... It will all be private soon and will be much improved at less cost to the taxpayer..

hkav, southampton says...
12:04pm Mon 16 Apr 07

Did anyone take part in the protests around March 19 at the Council against these plans????

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