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Saints pub faces new redevelopment threat

12:01pm Monday 16th July 2007

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A POPULAR pub saved from closure last year after a campaign by regulars is under threat again from the bulldozers.

The Saints pub in Millbrook, Southampton, was saved from demolition last year after passionate customers fought to keep it open.

But just 15 months on there are plans to knock down the pub and replace it with flats.

Planning chiefs could give the green light to the scheme tomorrow because the proposals include building a new pub alongside the homes on the site.

The new plans have had mixed reaction among regulars at the pub on the corner of Kendal Avenue and Mansel Road West.

One regular against the move is Philip Clarke who spent six weeks on the roof of the pub last year to voice his anger at the proposals.

Phil, 46, of Anderby Road, said: "I'm definitely against it. It's got too many memories. My father bought me my first pint here when I was 18 and I bought him his last pint here before he died.

"In 1976 I saw the FA Cup winning team stop outside the pub. It will be a shame to knock it down and I will get back on the roof again if I have to because I don't want to lose it."

But regular Frank Lodge welcomed the plans and said other regulars felt the same way.

Frank, 50, of Seacombe Green, said: "As long as there's a pub I don't mind as there's no pubs this side of the estate. It's the people that make the pub not the pub itself."

Redbridge Labour councillor Cathie McEwing said: "It's always a good thing to have new homes built and we have a dire need in Southampton for affordable homes. And if it incorporates a pub as well then it's in keeping with the vicinity."

Conservative councillor for Millbrook Linda Norris added: "If the plans go ahead I hope some of the original character can be retained from the old pub. Every community needs a pub, a church and a post office."

Last year regulars formed a Save Our Saints committee and collected a petition opposing the plans containing around 2,000 signatures.

The pub was re-named after Southampton Football Club in 1962.

The redevelopment will include a part three-storey and part four-storey block of flats containing 39 one-bedroom and 29 two-bedroom flats.


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Here, There says...
1:15pm Mon 16 Jul 07

The pub is too big for the number of punters, at any given time you could reduce it to a living room and corner bar to accomodate its patrons, so agree the unused/rarely used area should make way for housing, however, the developer can not be serious about incorporating a pub on the same site unless the flats are going to be housing association, its not ocean village

King Mush, Woolston says...
1:21pm Mon 16 Jul 07

Just leave it empty and the locals will demolish it for free!!

Then build a high rise tower block on the site to accommodate them....

Dave, Millbrook says...
2:34pm Mon 16 Jul 07

King Mush wrote:
Just leave it empty and the locals will demolish it for free!! Then build a high rise tower block on the site to accommodate them....
You must be very proud of International Way!
Sympathetic redevelopment of the Saints Pub site to include affordable homes can only be good news.A new pub (hopefully still called The Saints)would retain a meeting place for the current patrons many of whom are pensioners who would find it difficult to get a pint elsewhere in that locality.

alpine_saint, Soton says...
3:06pm Mon 16 Jul 07

Apparently the plans for the site include a new pub.

My arse ! The plans for the site of the old Elephant & Castle pub on Bursledon Road included a pub - well, there's not one there !

Watch this mythical new pub disappear in the first plan revision after the planning permission is granted.......

Sceptic, 950-317 says...
3:25pm Mon 16 Jul 07

I do not believe that a pub will be built when the plans are revised. My guess is that there will be objections in having a Pub developed so close to the new homes. It is there only to sweeten the pill.

Sky Jockey, says...
3:36pm Mon 16 Jul 07

Who is going to pay to build a replacement pub for one that is used by a few pensioners.
Look around, half the pubs on the outskirts of Southampton are gone or about to go.

Whatever!, Southampton says...
4:52pm Mon 16 Jul 07

All these plans to knock the pub down to build flats and a 'new pub'..... silly question -where will the car park be? They are building in an area where they will have to accomodate approx 68 parking spaces for the flats and then also car parking spaces for the new pub! Saints Pub sits at the corner of two busy roads, will we have cars blocking the road on the corners causing more havoc than we have already!???

John, Southampton says...
7:12pm Mon 16 Jul 07

Make it a condition of the planning permission that
a) a temporary pub is built before the old one is demolished and then
b)the new pub is built and open before the work starts on the new houses/flats.

Then you'll see how serious the developer is.

Boozy Rooster, says...
7:57pm Mon 16 Jul 07

If you want to save your local hostelry from developers, you need to go and drink there. Moaning about some shabby little pub being flattened by the wrecking ball and covered in jerry-built flats is for losers, not boozers !

and of course developers don't build a small pub on the site with the flats ! almost nobody wants to live next door to a pub!

James Livingstone-Hardy (Im Not A Peado), millbrook says...
9:02pm Mon 16 Jul 07

Knock the **** hole down, it will be good to walk past there + not get attacked with verbal + physical abuse by the morons that drink + meet up there to do their shifty deals

Iain, Southampton says...
1:53pm Sun 5 Aug 07

Its the nearest pub to where I live, but having drank there a couple of times over the years, I have to say I would not miss it when it is demolished!

The Area needs a good pub - The Saints isn't it!

If "cheap" housing is built there then there will be no Pub built to replace it - the idea is just a sop to get the gullible to accept the idea!

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