Send all the Poles home. It is unacceptable that this should be the main story in a local English newspaper.

Does being a plonker come naturally to you 'Get Out' or is it something you have to practice at?

Get out! wrote:
Send all the Poles home. It is unacceptable that this should be the main story in a local English newspaper.

Probably because we have a high number of Polish in the area.

Was watching CNN the other night, and they were interviewing a politician from Poland.
Apparently, Polish companies are recruiting builders, plumbers, electricians etc from Ýndia and Asia,because of the shortage of skilled workers in Poland.

Wonder where they went to?

I have to agree with get out! This is not a story which deserves to be covered in depth in an English news paper. Ian they are, in all here in Southampton but I am doubful as to how much skill htye posess, but they do like to keep busy. I can t see why they are here, there are no major problems in Poland so why cant they all go back?

keep wrote:
I have to agree with get out! This is not a story which deserves to be covered in depth in an English news paper. Ian they are, in all here in Southampton but I am doubful as to how much skill htye posess, but they do like to keep busy. I can t see why they are here, there are no major problems in Poland so why cant they all go back?

Because, being in the EU, and with our governments giving up our rights to border controls, they are free to travel.
Coming to England gives them access to all our benefits, which they will not get in Poland.
Did you realise that Polish men come here, some work, then get tax credits,benefits, etc along with child allowances for children that have never been here.
The money is then sent to their families in Poland.
Must be millions of pounds each month.
Then add that to claims by immigrants from other countries.

Ian wrote:

keep wrote: I have to agree with get out! This is not a story which deserves to be covered in depth in an English news paper. Ian they are, in all here in Southampton but I am doubful as to how much skill htye posess, but they do like to keep busy. I can t see why they are here, there are no major problems in Poland so why cant they all go back?

Because, being in the EU, and with our governments giving up our rights to border controls, they are free to travel. Coming to England gives them access to all our benefits, which they will not get in Poland. Did you realise that Polish men come here, some work, then get tax credits,benefits, etc along with child allowances for children that have never been here. The money is then sent to their families in Poland. Must be millions of pounds each month. Then add that to claims by immigrants from other countries.

Ok, so how come nobody says anything? I mean we are not in control of our own destiny, we stand to get out numbered and downtrodden in our own country, feel sorry for our kids they will never know freedom. Why did my Grandad fight in the war? He would turn in his grave if he saw this happening to the country he fought for.

Get out! wrote:
Send all the Poles home. It is unacceptable that this should be the main story in a local English newspaper.

I agree.
They're either cash in hand builders who claim benefit in both Poland and England, or they're young mothers - who can't be working or contributing to our economic success - but are instead blocking beds in our maternity wards while claiming benefit in Poland and England. Oh, and they don't spend much of their "hard-earned" handouts in England... Indeed, why would you spash out when you can survive perfectly well on cheap gherkins and stodgy cabbage dumplings, living with eleven mates in a 2 room flat, all the while wiring the money back to Krakow or smuggling it out on the ferries. (The Bank of England has reported a shortage of 50 quid and 100 quid notes, most of these notes having left the country.) Showers and soap? What are they? Don't you appreciate my natural Polish musk aroma? Case closed, fück off.

I cannot believe how unwelcoming people are to our friends (I am British) from Europe. The reason they have come to WORK here is that the british are too lazy do the jobs and happy to live on benefit. If you stopped the benefit they would soon find a job and I am sure that supply and demand would mean less would come.

Simon wrote:
I cannot believe how unwelcoming people are to our friends (I am British) from Europe. The reason they have come to WORK here is that the british are too lazy do the jobs and happy to live on benefit. If you stopped the benefit they would soon find a job and I am sure that supply and demand would mean less would come.

No, Simon, you are wrong.
Read Ian's comments. The current situation allows our Polish friends to claim generous UK benefits for children who have never set foot in this country. All the money is sent home to Poland. What part of this scam is acceptable in your eyes? As for one of the issues I raised... At what point do the sheer numbers of pregnant Polish girls become a burden on our health service? Naturally, they all want to give birth in better facilities, which is why they favour Southampton over Warszawa. Who pays for this?

Simon wrote:
I cannot believe how unwelcoming people are to our friends (I am British) from Europe. The reason they have come to WORK here is that the british are too lazy do the jobs and happy to live on benefit. If you stopped the benefit they would soon find a job and I am sure that supply and demand would mean less would come.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

I am a mum with three kids and we got loads of 40 something polish ladies round our estate. They are ok to talk to cbut seem a bit shifty. And my kids are frightened of their moustaches. I think they deal in firearms. So I'd be pleased to see them off the estate.

Lets have our own POLE :

Who thinks the Polish community is welcome in Southampton.

I dont

keep wrote:
Lets have our own POLE : Who thinks the Polish community is welcome in Southampton. I dont

Ahhh, put me down as a "no" please.

I am originally from s'oton, but moved to Poland a decade ago. Obviously, I have seen huge changes take place here in Warsaw and have watched with interest the massive numbers of Poles migrating to the UK.
The problems, however, are much more complex than some of the views already expressed here although there is some truth in what people have said.

Some, for example, are right to point out the benefit fraud taking place, and that has been shown in the Polish press too - I might add, not in a favourable light, as educated and respected menbers of Polish society are equally upset by their countrymen's lack of honesty. However, what we Brits have to take into account is that under communism, Poles had to go around, under and over the law in order to have a basic standard of living. They were duckers and divers because the political system of the time made them what they are. This mentality, unfortunately, still exists in many minds in Poland, so if the Brits have a porous benefit system, then 'certain' Poles will find a way to exploit it. But, let's not the blame the Poles for this,let's blame our govt for having such a liberal and easily exploited benefit system.

The problem of unregistered cash in hand workers is also well-documented here in Poland. Again, though ,I would tend not to blame Poles for this, but instead the govt for allowing 'anyone' in unregistered, and secondly, less than scrupulous British employers and gang masters who happily take on Poles at lower rates of pay.

Many of the Poles living in the UK are law-abiding citizens who simply want their piece of the capatalist pie. We can't blame them for wanting the same things as we have enjoyed for many years.
What we/the govt should have done was to ensure that immigration was better managed and that UK benfit systems were out of reach for normal economic migrants unless exceptional conditions were met.

I am European, born in England and living in Southampton UK. Bring on the Euro.

Tony wrote:
I am originally from s'oton, but moved to Poland a decade ago. Obviously, I have seen huge changes take place here in Warsaw and have watched with interest the massive numbers of Poles migrating to the UK. The problems, however, are much more complex than some of the views already expressed here although there is some truth in what people have said. Some, for example, are right to point out the benefit fraud taking place, and that has been shown in the Polish press too - I might add, not in a favourable light, as educated and respected menbers of Polish society are equally upset by their countrymen's lack of honesty. However, what we Brits have to take into account is that under communism, Poles had to go around, under and over the law in order to have a basic standard of living. They were duckers and divers because the political system of the time made them what they are. This mentality, unfortunately, still exists in many minds in Poland, so if the Brits have a porous benefit system, then 'certain' Poles will find a way to exploit it. But, let's not the blame the Poles for this,let's blame our govt for having such a liberal and easily exploited benefit system. The problem of unregistered cash in hand workers is also well-documented here in Poland. Again, though ,I would tend not to blame Poles for this, but instead the govt for allowing 'anyone' in unregistered, and secondly, less than scrupulous British employers and gang masters who happily take on Poles at lower rates of pay. Many of the Poles living in the UK are law-abiding citizens who simply want their piece of the capatalist pie. We can't blame them for wanting the same things as we have enjoyed for many years. What we/the govt should have done was to ensure that immigration was better managed and that UK benfit systems were out of reach for normal economic migrants unless exceptional conditions were met.

You gave up your say when you moved on, there are no excuses for these people, there is however a solution, go home.

"We can't blame them for wanting the same things as we have enjoyed for many years."

We enjoyed these things because our grandparents and parents before them gave up their rights to fight for a better place, this is now being undone by people whose countries were behind the curb and were lost, we are now suffering for people who rolled over in their hour of need and took and continue to take charity without thanks or shame.

I vote for all Polish males out, then a form of attractive test on the women, the fit one can stay, the ugly ones go home with the blokes.

R wrote:
I vote for all Polish males out, then a form of attractive test on the women, the fit one can stay, the ugly ones go home with the blokes.

My kids are frightened of the womens moustaches.

R wrote:
I vote for all Polish males out, then a form of attractive test on the women, the fit one can stay, the ugly ones go home with the blokes.

No way. All of tehm stink of boiled cabbage even the hot ones.

I am a brain surgeon currently working in Southampton.
I specialize in reverse lobotomy procedures.I will gladly furnish my services FOC for some of the unfortunate individuals currently posting on this forum.You know who you are!

Tess: I think that it is safe to assume if they have mustaches they will fail the test and be sent home. Patrick: every hole is a goal not every goal is a winner.

Tony wrote:
I am originally from s'oton, but moved to Poland a decade ago. Obviously, I have seen huge changes take place here in Warsaw and have watched with interest the massive numbers of Poles migrating to the UK. The problems, however, are much more complex than some of the views already expressed here although there is some truth in what people have said. Some, for example, are right to point out the benefit fraud taking place, and that has been shown in the Polish press too - I might add, not in a favourable light, as educated and respected menbers of Polish society are equally upset by their countrymen's lack of honesty. However, what we Brits have to take into account is that under communism, Poles had to go around, under and over the law in order to have a basic standard of living. They were duckers and divers because the political system of the time made them what they are. This mentality, unfortunately, still exists in many minds in Poland, so if the Brits have a porous benefit system, then 'certain' Poles will find a way to exploit it. But, let's not the blame the Poles for this,let's blame our govt for having such a liberal and easily exploited benefit system. The problem of unregistered cash in hand workers is also well-documented here in Poland. Again, though ,I would tend not to blame Poles for this, but instead the govt for allowing 'anyone' in unregistered, and secondly, less than scrupulous British employers and gang masters who happily take on Poles at lower rates of pay. Many of the Poles living in the UK are law-abiding citizens who simply want their piece of the capatalist pie. We can't blame them for wanting the same things as we have enjoyed for many years. What we/the govt should have done was to ensure that immigration was better managed and that UK benfit systems were out of reach for normal economic migrants unless exceptional conditions were met.

Good points eloquently made. I am pro European and I lay almost all the blame at the door of the government. To everyone here: You know, the labour market isn't so open in Germany and France. Only in Ireland and the UK, and possibly one Scandinavian country whose name escapes me, do the Poles and other economic migrants face next to no restrictions in the labour market. That's why they end up in Southampton and not Frankfurt or Marseilles. But migration on this scale simply isn't feasable or desirable. I firmly believe that we need to remove these communist cabbage farmers turned capitalist z³oty-pinching p1mps and wh0res back to Gdansk etc.

Dr.Tomasz Krackievcz wrote:
I am a brain surgeon currently working in Southampton. I specialize in reverse lobotomy procedures.I will gladly furnish my services FOC for some of the unfortunate individuals currently posting on this forum.You know who you are!

Even one of their brain surgeons cant see where he is not wanted, they really are in trouble.

Simon wrote:
I cannot believe how unwelcoming people are to our friends (I am British) from Europe. The reason they have come to WORK here is that the british are too lazy do the jobs and happy to live on benefit. If you stopped the benefit they would soon find a job and I am sure that supply and demand would mean less would come.

I resent that comment about British being lazy and being on benefits. I have worked since the age of 15 and be at school/full time education at the same time. I am expecting a baby and will still have to work full time, so how are brits lazy I ask?!?!?!?

Whenever I chat to Polish people, I refer to Polish towns and cities using their old German names and express surprise when told that Breslau is now Wroclaw, or that Stettin is now Szczecin, and so on! That really gets their goats, but they get really mad once they realise I'm doing it deliberately!

Well-travelled Brit in Europe wrote:
Whenever I chat to Polish people, I refer to Polish towns and cities using their old German names and express surprise when told that Breslau is now Wroclaw, or that Stettin is now Szczecin, and so on! That really gets their goats, but they get really mad once they realise I'm doing it deliberately!

''That really gets their goats''


Now you deprive them of their sunday lunch.

The outright racism in this country is appalling - how can you all accuse an entire community of being benefit cheats and tax dodgers. Most of these comments are made with absolutely no evidence to back them up, just repeating the Daily Mail line of England is for the English. Absolute rubbish. And incidently, the Polish lost a lot of people in WWII too, only they were unlucky enough to be "liberated" by the Soviets.
This story should be in the local paper because it appeals to local people - the population of southampton has changed, deal with it! Maybe you should all open your mind a little and you might just realise there is a big wide world out there!

Why did my Grandad fight in the war? He would turn in his grave if he saw this happening to the country he fought for.

It would seem that someone needs to be reminded that Poland was one of the countries their Grandad fought for.

If it wasn't for the Polish and Czech pilots, the Battle of Britain would probably have had a different outcome.

If there are loopholes being exploited, then it is up to the government to address the issues.

Personally I welcome the Polish community and what they have to offer.

D wrote:
The outright racism in this country is appalling - how can you all accuse an entire community of being benefit cheats and tax dodgers. Most of these comments are made with absolutely no evidence to back them up, just repeating the Daily Mail line of England is for the English. Absolute rubbish. And incidently, the Polish lost a lot of people in WWII too, only they were unlucky enough to be "liberated" by the Soviets. This story should be in the local paper because it appeals to local people - the population of southampton has changed, deal with it! Maybe you should all open your mind a little and you might just realise there is a big wide world out there!

Imagine that! You voice your own opinion on immigration and are branded racist. Well, "D". Consider this: Noone has complained about the above posts or the Echo would have removed them. This must indicate that the groundswell of public opinion is with the "racists" on this one. Plenty of room for you in Nowy Sacz, why don't you p1ss off there with your Polak mates. p.s. re your Daily Mail comment. I read the Guardian, Independent, Times, Telegraph, Daily Echo... In fact, I read everything.
No doubt you and your Polish friends use newsprint as Ersatz toilet paper.
Nice and cheap, eh?
Save those Zlotys.
Best regards,
Rob

The Polish benefit-farmers and those cash in hand builders who think an RSJ is a motorbike really bring shame on those Poles and their descendants who fought in the Free Polish Forces during World War 2 and had to remain behind here because of the situation in post war Poland. Freedom of movement within the European Community Area or whatever it is called should have been an all or nothing decision. Other bloggers write some of the EU member countries have blocked free movement of labour, so what is the point of the EU? The issue of allowing people to claim child benefit for kids who are living in their home country is scandalous but the bean counters in government come down like a ton of bricks on the family of the Hampshire lad who managed to get a place at the Bolshoi Ballet. Because Russia is outside the EU, the British government has stopped the child benefit that went some way to helping him get through the terms. One British kid gets his allowance stopped by over zealous number cruchers in whitehall but thousands of kids who will probably never see the UK are being subsidised by the UK tax payer, you could not make it up! Some polish people like all groups who come to the UK must make some kind of contribution but it really needs sorting out by Gordon and his chums. Perhaps they could start with letting in some dentists for those of us who cannot afford to go private! The EU is investing 60 billion euro's in Poland, why dont they split it between those countries that are allowing free movement of Polish citizens to come to their countries?

The worst reason that I have heard yet about why it is only fair for polish people to come here was from a polish community leader who said that it was 'because of Winston Churchill leaving them behind the iron curtain', what more could Britain have done, we went to war in 1939 because the nazis invaded their country, ended up bankrupt and lost our position in the world to the USA! There must be a more plausible reason for this massive wave of immigration than it is Winston Churchill's fault?

The Polish in my area are well known for drugs and prostitution as well as benefit fraud and money laundering. Really nice, sound, hardworking people.

Rob wrote:

D wrote: The outright racism in this country is appalling - how can you all accuse an entire community of being benefit cheats and tax dodgers. Most of these comments are made with absolutely no evidence to back them up, just repeating the Daily Mail line of England is for the English. Absolute rubbish. And incidently, the Polish lost a lot of people in WWII too, only they were unlucky enough to be \"liberated\" by the Soviets. This story should be in the local paper because it appeals to local people - the population of southampton has changed, deal with it! Maybe you should all open your mind a little and you might just realise there is a big wide world out there!

Imagine that! You voice your own opinion on immigration and are branded racist. Well, \"D\". Consider this: Noone has complained about the above posts or the Echo would have removed them. This must indicate that the groundswell of public opinion is with the \"racists\" on this one. Plenty of room for you in Nowy Sacz, why don\'t you p1ss off there with your Polak mates. p.s. re your Daily Mail comment. I read the Guardian, Independent, Times, Telegraph, Daily Echo... In fact, I read everything. No doubt you and your Polish friends use newsprint as Ersatz toilet paper. Nice and cheap, eh? Save those Zlotys. Best regards, Rob

Maybe no one has complained about the posts because we believe in free speech - even if it is the moronic dronings of people like you.

I brand the anti-immigration comments racist because you never hear people complain about white, english speaking immigrants (there are thousands of Aussies and Americans in the U.K.) - that speaks volumes.

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

D wrote: The outright racism in this country is appalling - how can you all accuse an entire community of being benefit cheats and tax dodgers. Most of these comments are made with absolutely no evidence to back them up, just repeating the Daily Mail line of England is for the English. Absolute rubbish. And incidently, the Polish lost a lot of people in WWII too, only they were unlucky enough to be \"liberated\" by the Soviets. This story should be in the local paper because it appeals to local people - the population of southampton has changed, deal with it! Maybe you should all open your mind a little and you might just realise there is a big wide world out there!

Imagine that! You voice your own opinion on immigration and are branded racist. Well, \"D\". Consider this: Noone has complained about the above posts or the Echo would have removed them. This must indicate that the groundswell of public opinion is with the \"racists\" on this one. Plenty of room for you in Nowy Sacz, why don\'t you p1ss off there with your Polak mates. p.s. re your Daily Mail comment. I read the Guardian, Independent, Times, Telegraph, Daily Echo... In fact, I read everything. No doubt you and your Polish friends use newsprint as Ersatz toilet paper. Nice and cheap, eh? Save those Zlotys. Best regards, Rob

Maybe no one has complained about the posts because we believe in free speech - even if it is the moronic dronings of people like you. I brand the anti-immigration comments racist because you never hear people complain about white, english speaking immigrants (there are thousands of Aussies and Americans in the U.K.) - that speaks volumes.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

D wrote: The outright racism in this country is appalling - how can you all accuse an entire community of being benefit cheats and tax dodgers. Most of these comments are made with absolutely no evidence to back them up, just repeating the Daily Mail line of England is for the English. Absolute rubbish. And incidently, the Polish lost a lot of people in WWII too, only they were unlucky enough to be \"liberated\" by the Soviets. This story should be in the local paper because it appeals to local people - the population of southampton has changed, deal with it! Maybe you should all open your mind a little and you might just realise there is a big wide world out there!

Imagine that! You voice your own opinion on immigration and are branded racist. Well, \"D\". Consider this: Noone has complained about the above posts or the Echo would have removed them. This must indicate that the groundswell of public opinion is with the \"racists\" on this one. Plenty of room for you in Nowy Sacz, why don\'t you p1ss off there with your Polak mates. p.s. re your Daily Mail comment. I read the Guardian, Independent, Times, Telegraph, Daily Echo... In fact, I read everything. No doubt you and your Polish friends use newsprint as Ersatz toilet paper. Nice and cheap, eh? Save those Zlotys. Best regards, Rob

Maybe no one has complained about the posts because we believe in free speech - even if it is the moronic dronings of people like you. I brand the anti-immigration comments racist because you never hear people complain about white, english speaking immigrants (there are thousands of Aussies and Americans in the U.K.) - that speaks volumes.

For me, as a white anglo saxon male inhabitant of the United Kingdom to get into the USA, would require me to provide a biometric passport, submit to fingerprint and iris testing, provide proof of where I will be staying, and so on. And still I'm not allowed to apply to work in the USA! The Australians even want to know whether you have a criminal record before allowing you in. Meanwhile, us mugs welcome the filthy Poles with open arms, no questions asked. They swan in on the ferries unchallenged and disappear up the M20, only to reemerge at benefit counters from Southampton to Southport.

I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon!
Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST.

Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Think once... wrote:
I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves

Tess,
Michael,
Ian,
Tony,
Well-travelled Brit in Europe,
Bertski,
and
debunking the immigration myth.

These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors.

p.s.
racist, moi?

Rob wrote:

Think once... wrote: I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves Tess, Michael, Ian, Tony, Well-travelled Brit in Europe, Bertski, and debunking the immigration myth. These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors. p.s. racist, moi?

My turn!

Comments by Tess - Rob, surely you're not taking the moustache comment seriously are you?

Michael - Any evidence to back up your claim that the NHS is being overrun by pregnant Poles? Doubt it.

Ian - living in Turkey so I can imagine most of his ideas come from the Sun, Daily Mail or the Mirror - either way, any evidence?

Well-travelled - Don't really get his point other than the fact he thinks he's clever by reminding Poles of their difficult relationship with Germany.

Bertski - as far as I can tell this is more a complaint about the EU and the Government. I agree that money is wasted on farmers, but don't see how this is Polish immigrants fault.

Debunking - Presumably if you had any evidence about their involvement in drugs and prostitution you'd report it to the police? But I guess it's easier just to make things up...

I'm not trying to deny there may be some fraud going on but to claim that 400,000+ people are tax dodging, benefit scrounging immigrants is simply wrong. If it were true don't you think that the benefits bill would have gone through the roof - which it hasn't.

Over to you Rob.....

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

Think once... wrote: I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves Tess, Michael, Ian, Tony, Well-travelled Brit in Europe, Bertski, and debunking the immigration myth. These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors. p.s. racist, moi?

My turn! Comments by Tess - Rob, surely you're not taking the moustache comment seriously are you? Michael - Any evidence to back up your claim that the NHS is being overrun by pregnant Poles? Doubt it. Ian - living in Turkey so I can imagine most of his ideas come from the Sun, Daily Mail or the Mirror - either way, any evidence? Well-travelled - Don't really get his point other than the fact he thinks he's clever by reminding Poles of their difficult relationship with Germany. Bertski - as far as I can tell this is more a complaint about the EU and the Government. I agree that money is wasted on farmers, but don't see how this is Polish immigrants fault. Debunking - Presumably if you had any evidence about their involvement in drugs and prostitution you'd report it to the police? But I guess it's easier just to make things up... I'm not trying to deny there may be some fraud going on but to claim that 400,000+ people are tax dodging, benefit scrounging immigrants is simply wrong. If it were true don't you think that the benefits bill would have gone through the roof - which it hasn't. Over to you Rob.....

Hello "D" / "Think once" (same person).
To suddenly introduce the figure of 400,000 economic migrant Poles is a bit disingenuous, wouldn't you agree? Why don't you multiply that figure by four and you have a rough estimate of the number of Poles in the UK?

Think once... wrote:
I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

So, I make some well founded and sensible points and get abused for it, Think once I would think twice if I were you before using the word buffoon look closer to home.


game set and match to me

Number 17 on the amazon.pl bestseller list is a title that translates thus: "Cheat your way to better UK benefits".

Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior.

I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank!
I rest.

Think once... wrote:
Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior. I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank! I rest.

You rest my old china plate, had you out your box again didnt I, had to get personal again didnt you, you are easy meat, as I said LOOK TWICE

Two nil what a caning

Is "King Mush" incognito these days?

Rob wrote:

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

Think once... wrote: I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves Tess, Michael, Ian, Tony, Well-travelled Brit in Europe, Bertski, and debunking the immigration myth. These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors. p.s. racist, moi?

My turn! Comments by Tess - Rob, surely you're not taking the moustache comment seriously are you? Michael - Any evidence to back up your claim that the NHS is being overrun by pregnant Poles? Doubt it. Ian - living in Turkey so I can imagine most of his ideas come from the Sun, Daily Mail or the Mirror - either way, any evidence? Well-travelled - Don't really get his point other than the fact he thinks he's clever by reminding Poles of their difficult relationship with Germany. Bertski - as far as I can tell this is more a complaint about the EU and the Government. I agree that money is wasted on farmers, but don't see how this is Polish immigrants fault. Debunking - Presumably if you had any evidence about their involvement in drugs and prostitution you'd report it to the police? But I guess it's easier just to make things up... I'm not trying to deny there may be some fraud going on but to claim that 400,000+ people are tax dodging, benefit scrounging immigrants is simply wrong. If it were true don't you think that the benefits bill would have gone through the roof - which it hasn't. Over to you Rob.....

Hello "D" / "Think once" (same person). To suddenly introduce the figure of 400,000 economic migrant Poles is a bit disingenuous, wouldn't you agree? Why don't you multiply that figure by four and you have a rough estimate of the number of Poles in the UK?

Rob - I was referring to the number of workers from Poland, not dependents. I'm interested to know how you arrived at your number given that no one actually knows - I can only assume it comes from the Daily "hate" Mail newspaper, which freely admits it is based on visitors, not people who stay.

It is actually irrelevant as it doesn't matter how many are here. What matters is what they do and I notice that you failed to address a single one of my arguments, presumably because you can't and choose instead to make pointless statements.

Incidently, I am not the same person as "Think once" - believe it or not there is more than one non-immigrant hater in this city!

Look Twice has done exactly that and dissapeared to where he/she came from.

The POLE, was 100% in favour of those who said that the Polish community was NOT welcome in Southampton

Ha ha ha

keep wrote:

Think once... wrote: Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior. I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank! I rest.

You rest my old china plate, had you out your box again didnt I, had to get personal again didnt you, you are easy meat, as I said LOOK TWICE Two nil what a caning

Doesn't count as a caning just because you say it is a caning, judging by your comments here and elsewhere I agree and think you are a complete plank.

anon wrote:

keep wrote:

Think once... wrote: Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior. I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank! I rest.

You rest my old china plate, had you out your box again didnt I, had to get personal again didnt you, you are easy meat, as I said LOOK TWICE Two nil what a caning

Doesn't count as a caning just because you say it is a caning, judging by your comments here and elsewhere I agree and think you are a complete plank.

Another lamb to the slaughter anon you just could not help but get caught up in it could you.

Thankyou 1-0

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

Think once... wrote: I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves Tess, Michael, Ian, Tony, Well-travelled Brit in Europe, Bertski, and debunking the immigration myth. These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors. p.s. racist, moi?

My turn! Comments by Tess - Rob, surely you're not taking the moustache comment seriously are you? Michael - Any evidence to back up your claim that the NHS is being overrun by pregnant Poles? Doubt it. Ian - living in Turkey so I can imagine most of his ideas come from the Sun, Daily Mail or the Mirror - either way, any evidence? Well-travelled - Don't really get his point other than the fact he thinks he's clever by reminding Poles of their difficult relationship with Germany. Bertski - as far as I can tell this is more a complaint about the EU and the Government. I agree that money is wasted on farmers, but don't see how this is Polish immigrants fault. Debunking - Presumably if you had any evidence about their involvement in drugs and prostitution you'd report it to the police? But I guess it's easier just to make things up... I'm not trying to deny there may be some fraud going on but to claim that 400,000+ people are tax dodging, benefit scrounging immigrants is simply wrong. If it were true don't you think that the benefits bill would have gone through the roof - which it hasn't. Over to you Rob.....

Hello "D" / "Think once" (same person). To suddenly introduce the figure of 400,000 economic migrant Poles is a bit disingenuous, wouldn't you agree? Why don't you multiply that figure by four and you have a rough estimate of the number of Poles in the UK?

Rob - I was referring to the number of workers from Poland, not dependents. I'm interested to know how you arrived at your number given that no one actually knows - I can only assume it comes from the Daily "hate" Mail newspaper, which freely admits it is based on visitors, not people who stay. It is actually irrelevant as it doesn't matter how many are here. What matters is what they do and I notice that you failed to address a single one of my arguments, presumably because you can't and choose instead to make pointless statements. Incidently, I am not the same person as "Think once" - believe it or not there is more than one non-immigrant hater in this city!

I have extensive exposure to and experience of Poles in Southampton and Portsmouth. Some of these men are not officially registered - they work for cash in hand. Some are registered, and yet claim benefits whilst working. Yet more claim for dependents back in Poland. These people are my "colleagues" at work. But given half a chance they'd rob you blind. I've yet to meet a trustworthy Pole.

keep wrote:

anon wrote:

keep wrote:

Think once... wrote: Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior. I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank! I rest.

You rest my old china plate, had you out your box again didnt I, had to get personal again didnt you, you are easy meat, as I said LOOK TWICE Two nil what a caning

Doesn't count as a caning just because you say it is a caning, judging by your comments here and elsewhere I agree and think you are a complete plank.

Another lamb to the slaughter anon you just could not help but get caught up in it could you. Thankyou 1-0

I pity you, you sad muppet.

Anon wrote:

keep wrote:

anon wrote:

keep wrote:

Think once... wrote: Apologies in advance if this sounds in any patronising or superior. I really can't debate the validity of your points for the simple reason you are quite clearly an absolute idiot . Not only is this demonstrated in this particular thread but right across the board on most things you comment on. The phrases 'well founded' and 'Sensible points' can certainly not be attributed to a single contribution of yours.

lets get the pole issue done first, then I am happy to yarpie and aussie bash all day. When were through with them bring on the septics.

I am confused your either British or not, you sound as British as the Polish are, we have embraced you and now you turn against us and bite the hand that feeds you. If you dont want to be here go simple. Ha Ha simple Simon

What a plank! I rest.

You rest my old china plate, had you out your box again didnt I, had to get personal again didnt you, you are easy meat, as I said LOOK TWICE Two nil what a caning

Doesn't count as a caning just because you say it is a caning, judging by your comments here and elsewhere I agree and think you are a complete plank.

Another lamb to the slaughter anon you just could not help but get caught up in it could you. Thankyou 1-0

I pity you, you sad muppet.

Thats two

In the bag you cant help yourself can you.

The abuse was not nessesary but it was the deciding factor, get under the rock with look twice. who is the muppet?

Keep looking

Applying your infantile logic it can only be a draw you tw@t. You respond also... how about you thinking (just)once!
Now why don't you leave the comments to the adults, go and do your homework or go and knock one out whilst mummy prepares your nuggets and chips.

Keep is a D1ck wrote:
Keep looking Applying your infantile logic it can only be a draw you tw@t. You respond also... how about you thinking (just)once! Now why don't you leave the comments to the adults, go and do your homework or go and knock one out whilst mummy prepares your nuggets and chips.

Line em up today, aint got time for my nuggets, dealing with too many on here, mummy will wait I am sure.

Well done Mr adult type man you are good but I am better,

Bang bosh crump another bites the dust

Keep looking behind you.

You really are the toast of this board. Try as I might I can't work out a number of the things about you. Namely; the rules of your game, the scoring and finally the purpose.
I'll have to get my nine year old to have a read through perhaps he will know. although saying that it may go over his head also, he is both mature and intelligent for his age.

Moderator you fell without fight, ill spare you!

End of the day, it cannot be rascist to be worried about people of whatever nationality or religion coming over here to fleece the benefit system if it is seen as downright plundering of our social system when the money could be used for other things such as the NHS? The Government and the EU are to blame, they are allowing this build up of anger and resentment by allowing it to et out of hand. Get it sorted before it all kicks off! Maybe we will get another chunk of Stalinist spin from the Govt, Gordon Brown working on the border controls....yes I know what border controls?

Michael wrote:

Get out! wrote:
Send all the Poles home. It is unacceptable that this should be the main story in a local English newspaper.

I agree.
They\\\\\\\'re either cash in hand builders who claim benefit in both Poland and England, or they\\\\\\\'re young mothers - who can\\\\\\\'t be working or contributing to our economic success - but are instead blocking beds in our maternity wards while claiming benefit in Poland and England. Oh, and they don\\\\\\\'t spend much of their \\\\\\\"hard-earned\\\\\\\" handouts in England... Indeed, why would you spash out when you can survive perfectly well on cheap gherkins and stodgy cabbage dumplings, living with eleven mates in a 2 room flat, all the while wiring the money back to Krakow or smuggling it out on the ferries. (The Bank of England has reported a shortage of 50 quid and 100 quid notes, most of these notes having left the country.) Showers and soap? What are they? Don\\\\\\\'t you appreciate my natural Polish musk aroma? Case closed, fück off.

Coming from other countries of EU to UK you can't claim benefits unless you're economically active, student or pensioner...you need to work to get any benefits. Get some information on legislation first, then write .

Michael wrote:

Simon wrote:
I cannot believe how unwelcoming people are to our friends (I am British) from Europe. The reason they have come to WORK here is that the british are too lazy do the jobs and happy to live on benefit. If you stopped the benefit they would soon find a job and I am sure that supply and demand would mean less would come.

No, Simon, you are wrong.
Read Ian's comments. The current situation allows our Polish friends to claim generous UK benefits for children who have never set foot in this country. All the money is sent home to Poland. What part of this scam is acceptable in your eyes? As for one of the issues I raised... At what point do the sheer numbers of pregnant Polish girls become a burden on our health service? Naturally, they all want to give birth in better facilities, which is why they favour Southampton over Warszawa. Who pays for this?

Have you ever been to Poland? The Health Service is 100% better than in UK. Both of my parents are doctors so I can tell. You can see YOUR gynaecology for the whole period of your pregnancy. Get several scans, tests etc. Not to mention the dentistry... Never seen worse mouth hygiene than the one of the British... Why do so many British use the 'medical tourism' and go to Poland?

D wrote:

Rob wrote:

Think once... wrote: I'm all for free speech so here is some: Keep looking behind you - what an ignorant buffoon! Rob Winchester - Couldn't manage to make your point with out slipping into expletives, BTW I think you are definitely a RACIST. Get Out - Please quickly if you don't mind - Idiot.

Ok, pr1ck, so that leaves Tess, Michael, Ian, Tony, Well-travelled Brit in Europe, Bertski, and debunking the immigration myth. These people are still awaiting your comeback. I'd be interested to know how you dismiss the points made by these contributors. p.s. racist, moi?

My turn! Comments by Tess - Rob, surely you're not taking the moustache comment seriously are you? Michael - Any evidence to back up your claim that the NHS is being overrun by pregnant Poles? Doubt it. Ian - living in Turkey so I can imagine most of his ideas come from the Sun, Daily Mail or the Mirror - either way, any evidence? Well-travelled - Don't really get his point other than the fact he thinks he's clever by reminding Poles of their difficult relationship with Germany. Bertski - as far as I can tell this is more a complaint about the EU and the Government. I agree that money is wasted on farmers, but don't see how this is Polish immigrants fault. Debunking - Presumably if you had any evidence about their involvement in drugs and prostitution you'd report it to the police? But I guess it's easier just to make things up... I'm not trying to deny there may be some fraud going on but to claim that 400,000+ people are tax dodging, benefit scrounging immigrants is simply wrong. If it were true don't you think that the benefits bill would have gone through the roof - which it hasn't. Over to you Rob.....

Living, and working in Turkey, but still paying all my UK taxes.
Just check the various official sources, and you will see my comments are correct. The figures may vary slightly, but in essence the facts are correct.
Suggest you do the same, but bear in mind,quoting facts does not make a person racist.

I saw a bloke at the sports centre with a long piece of fibre glass on his shoulder.

I said are you a pole-vaulter???

He said 'no, I am german but how do you know my name is vaulter???

Gus ? I saw your mum on the street asking for a coins.