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12:40pm Tuesday 5th February 2008

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CONTROVERSIAL plans to send passenger jets over some of the most tranquil parts of the Hampshire countryside have been given the go-ahead.

The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has approved proposals to expand the flightpaths used by aircraft coming into land at Southampton and Bournemouth airports.

Villages in the Test Valley and the New Forest National Park will be among those hardest hit by the decision.

Planes will be banned from flying over the area after 9.30pm - but flights will resume as early as 5.45am in summer and 6.30am in winter.

A CAA report admits that "some aircraft noise at low levels will be experienced".

It adds: "There will be an impact on tranquillity. Visual intrusion and noise is likely to be a new feature for areas that are not currently overflown by commercial aircraft."

Planes using Southampton and Bournemouth airports already fly over parts of the Forest, including Hythe and Burley.

However, the scheme approved by the CAA means jets will be routed over villages that are currently among the quietest in the district.

The proposals sparked outrage when they were unveiled last summer.

Campaigners in the Bramshaw and Minstead area said communities would be plagued by as many as 30 aircraft a day flying at just 5,500ft.

Villagers have condemned the CAA's decision to support the plans but have also welcomed certain restrictions imposed by the organisation.

New Forest East MP Julian Lewis said: "I suppose we should be grateful that flights will not be permitted between 9.30pm and 5.45am in summer, or before 6.30am in winter.

"We have been promised a review 12 months after the scheme is introduced on April 10.

"I strongly advise anyone whose sleep is disturbed to make a detailed record of times and dates and send this to me by the end of March 2009."

Caroline Nokes, the prospective Conservative parliamentary candidate for Romsey and Southampton North, said: "I'd only describe this as a partial success.

"There will be less night flying and the planes will be higher. However, I remain concerned about the impact on the tranquillity of the countryside."

The New Forest National Park Authority said it was "deeply disappointed"

at the CAA's decision to allow the airspace over the area to be expanded.

A spokesman said: "Although the CAA recognised our concerns and accepts that there will be an increase in noise and a loss of tranquillity, they concluded that it is outweighed by other issues."

The fiercely contested plans were put forward by the Hampshire-based National Air Traffic Services (NATS) in May last year.

Parish leaders in Minstead discussed the possibility of declaring independence in a bid to prevent planes from entering the airspace above the village.

They claimed that a village in Belgium had used similar tactics to prevent a new runway being built at Brussels airport.

NATS says the scheme will enable air traffic controllers to safely handle a greater number of flights as well as reduce delays.

A spokesman said: "I suspect that people in the New Forest will notice absolutely no difference."

For more detail see today's Daily Echo


Your Say YourThis is Hampshire

hmm, says...
11:15am Tue 5 Feb 08

NIMBYS READY!

another interesting post from hmmm, zzzzzz says...
11:23am Tue 5 Feb 08

Trolls ready !

Paul, Flying high again says...
12:19pm Tue 5 Feb 08

I trust that anyone who objects has never used air travel before

Toff, says...
12:33pm Tue 5 Feb 08

What a scandal!! Planes should only ever fly over areas where poor people live, not where us nice middle and upper class people reside.

Graham Hepburn, Chandler's Ford says...
1:01pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Once again, Caroline Noakes is available for comment. Why is she still not available for comment on the issue of her Cancer research leaflets?

Robert, says...
1:12pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Is that plane in the picture dropping anti-missilematerial
?

Jimbo, says...
1:19pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Robert wrote:
Is that plane in the picture dropping anti-missilematerial
?
Napalm?

Paul, New Forest says...
1:46pm Tue 5 Feb 08

I hardly think that 30 planes a day (an average of less than 2 planes an hour during the summer) can be described as being "plagued".

I live in a part of the Forest that's on the Bournemouth flight path & currently get 10 - 15 flights a day at varying heights. It has a minimal "impact on tranquility" (it doesn't even wake the dog up!).

I can't see that even a doubling in air traffic is going to cause too much trouble unless you live very close to the airport - in which case, why buy a house there in the first place?


Adrian Smith, says...
2:19pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Graham Hepburn wrote:
Once again, Caroline Noakes is available for comment. Why is she still not available for comment on the issue of her Cancer research leaflets?
Her silence has been deafening - unlike these planes.

Angry, says...
3:04pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Toff wrote:
What a scandal!! Planes should only ever fly over areas where poor people live, not where us nice middle and upper class people reside.
How idiotic are you? i really cannot believe some of the comments on here- talk about loving themselves!

Ian, Turkey says...
3:40pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Angry wrote:
Toff wrote: What a scandal!! Planes should only ever fly over areas where poor people live, not where us nice middle and upper class people reside.
How idiotic are you? i really cannot believe some of the comments on here- talk about loving themselves!
Lost your sense of humour?

angry, says...
3:49pm Tue 5 Feb 08

not at all, i just think some people should watch what they say- some of the comments on here are not very nice EVEN if they are not meant to hurt people

Libertarian, Winchester says...
4:15pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Robert wrote:
Is that plane in the picture dropping anti-missilematerial
?
I think it's a mother plane with her litter of baby planes.

Adrian Smith, says...
4:40pm Tue 5 Feb 08

angry wrote:
not at all, i just think some people should watch what they say- some of the comments on here are not very nice EVEN if they are not meant to hurt people
Some of us come here each day to have a giggle at the Echo, other posters and the World in general. Less fattening than biscuits with my coffee.

not remotely angry, says...
5:01pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Adrian Smith wrote:
angry wrote: not at all, i just think some people should watch what they say- some of the comments on here are not very nice EVEN if they are not meant to hurt people
Some of us come here each day to have a giggle at the Echo, other posters and the World in general. Less fattening than biscuits with my coffee.
Unfortunately it often appears like the behaviour of a 'posse' of play ground bullies!

Arthur Letticks, Crystal Palace says...
5:27pm Tue 5 Feb 08

I can't wait, I'm an aviation nut and will remortgage my holiday home at Heathrow to afford a cardboard box in the forest and sit back on my boxflap, White Lightning in hand and admire the view. whhoooo hoooo can't wait!
May bring my Polish pal and my Muslim neighbour with his 4 wives and seventeen kids!! Don't wish to offend anyone - truly I don't - the point is that the NIMBY brigade are out again and of course - they never fly anywhere - anytime.

Sam, at home says...
9:15pm Tue 5 Feb 08

Quite right, Paul - just what I thought. 30 per day is only about two per hour, and they are over 5000 feet up! NIMBYism at its worst. I live about a mile from a far busier airport, close to the flight path, and you get used to it - they are not that loud.

Harry Remmington, New Forest says...
9:30am Wed 6 Feb 08

There are dozens of civil & military aircraft movements over the New Forest every day some as low as 500 feet. They are non scheduled flights and probably been happening since flight began. A number of "airways" cross the area and will continue to do so. I would very much doubt that anyone will notice a few movements in and out of Southampton and Bournemouth.
As said the unelected NPA should concentrate on rubbish clearance,
unauthorised building
and kick-starting the Lyndhurst by-pass.

Bettyboo, Hampshire says...
9:31am Wed 6 Feb 08

Angry wrote:
Toff wrote: What a scandal!! Planes should only ever fly over areas where poor people live, not where us nice middle and upper class people reside.
How idiotic are you? i really cannot believe some of the comments on here- talk about loving themselves!
I think you're the one who has shown yourself to be the idiot - it's obvious these comments were tongue in cheek!

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