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Funerals to be recorded and streamed online
12:31pm Wednesday 19th March 2008
Comments (35)FRIENDS and relatives unable to go to their loved one's funeral will soon be able to watch it on the Internet, the Daily Echo can reveal.
Mourners will also be offered a CD or DVD of cremations in Southampton under a new scheme launched next month.
People who cannot personally attend a funeral can pay £75 to avoid missing out on saying goodbye to their nearest and dearest. In return they will be given a password to access a live webcast of the service.
DVDs will be available for £50 and sound recordings for £25.
The new service is being made available from the start of April.
The council-owned Southampton Crematorium is one of the first to take up the technology which they hope will improve the service offered to mourners at the 3,500 cremations in its East and West chapels each year.
Crematorium manager Trevor Mathieson hopes it will allow staff to make the service a lot more personal.
He said: "Sometimes not everyone can make it to a funeral because they live too far away or are too ill. This can let them be a part of the service."
He explained that the webcasting service appear on the internet with a 20-second delay and each service would be filmed by a small discreet camera at the back of the chapel.
He thought it was unlikely to stop people attending cremations just because they have the option to watch it online.
Mr Mathieson, who has worked at the crematorium for ten years, added: "It allows the whole service to run a lot smoother and no one has to worry about copyright issues or having to set up a stereo to play a CD correctly.
"People like to make it more personal and it is now often more about the person than about religion.
"There is normally a song played that means a lot to the family, where as ten years ago an organ was traditional. I think out of every 50 cremations only one uses an organ for music."
The service is provided by Wesley Music, who offer multimedia technology to crematoriums in the UK that allow them to access almost any song or piece of music for a ceremony without the need for CDs, tapes or separate stereo equipment.
Wesley Music director Alan Jeffrey said the use of webcasting, which is available at 11 crematoriums across the country, was becoming popular with local authorities. "It was born out of the idea of helping the elderly relative in Australia who could not make it back here for a family funeral," he said.
"The technology used for the music services allowed us to develop it and offer this as well.
It's more of an extra service for families then something considered as a commercial facility."
Webcasting was used recently when a soldier's funeral was watched by comrades in Basra.
For the full story see today's Daily Echo.
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Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
9:24am Wed 19 Mar 08
Libertarian, Winchester says...
10:22am Wed 19 Mar 08
Christoff, says...
10:32am Wed 19 Mar 08
Cynic, Southampton says...
11:00am Wed 19 Mar 08
Incredulous, Southampton says...
11:21am Wed 19 Mar 08
shaz, not at the crem says...
11:38am Wed 19 Mar 08
unreal, moneygrabbers says...
11:55am Wed 19 Mar 08
That is an outrageous rip off
Fred, says...
12:07pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Incredulous wrote:How would filming what other people witness dispell any of these "myths"?
What a wonderful idea. Footage of the actual cremation is essential to dispel the "myths" of recycling coffins, multiburns and mixed ashes, etc.
Perhaps placing a camera inside the coffin and relaying those last moments to a big screen would be a useful bonus.
Fred, says...
12:09pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Cynic wrote:I see no difference to this being filmed or the filming which takes place at a football match. Wear a mask if you are too ugly for TV.
For this to happen, will the mourners be automatically filmed. I do not see how this can work as I for one would not give my permission. UNLESS OF COURSE the permission will be sneakily obtained by requiring acceptance of their terms and conditions before the cremation can proceed.
Wills, Hellfire says...
12:23pm Wed 19 Mar 08
mangobean, Eastleigh says...
12:29pm Wed 19 Mar 08
That way only the people going up to read or speak would need to grant permission for filming.
Why would the congregation need to be filmed?
It wouldn't be a whole film crew and OB unit with roaming cameras panning around the scene FFS.
Already Burned in Hell Saints Fan!, Southampton says...
12:33pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Did So'ton Council canvas anybody about this service before making the descision to go for it!
David "Kid" Jensen, KTel says...
12:49pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Available now at all good record shops;
Fire - Arthur Brown
Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash
We Didn't Start The Fire - Billy Joel
Light My Fire - The Doors
I'm On Fire - Bruce Springsteen
Love Fire - Simply Red
Relight My Fire - Take That
Burning Love - Elvis Presley
Disco Inferno - The Trammps
Hot, Hot, Hot - Arrow
Phoenix From The Flames - Robbie Williams
Ashes to Ashes - David Bowie
£2.99 from KTel.
Hugh Carres, says...
1:22pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Sceptic, Waterside says...
1:33pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Cynic, Southampton says...
1:34pm Wed 19 Mar 08
unreal wrote:The high cost of the DVD or CD would have to include royalties for the music used.
HOW MUCH ? That is an outrageous rip off
Fun for all Funerals, Deeper underground says...
1:47pm Wed 19 Mar 08
You will then be able to press the red button for interactive highlights and choose from 2 camera angles.
Press 1 for "Coffin cam"
Press 2 for "Crypt cam"
Also interactive directors cut will be on the DVD with commentary on or off.
Mmmmmmm, i am sure they will be sold on ebay as well!
Rich Mondé, says...
2:10pm Wed 19 Mar 08
JB Soton wrote:I know where you are coming from, I had my wedding day videoed, I can tell you that is one day I could do with forgetting.
I would not feel comfortable, knowing that my private, personal, grief was being video taped. How would this work? would the 'absent' person have to gain permission from all attending the funeral? The more I think about it the less I like the idea of it.If I could not attend a funeral I would send a wreath , and be content with my memories. This makes me think of 'pikeys' they take photos of loved ones lying in coffins, I also find this distastful.
Tony Blackburn, Ronco says...
2:14pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Funeral Pyre - The Jam
Going Underground - The Jam
Way Down - Elvis Presley
Deeper and Down - Status Quo
Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters
Great Balls Of Fire - Jerry Lee Lewis
Toast - The Q-Tips
Ev'rytime We Say Goodbye - Ella Fitzgerald
Always Look On The Bright Side - Eric Idle
£1.99 Ronco Records.
Robert, says...
2:17pm Wed 19 Mar 08
All smile now, you're on TV!
And that includes YOU in the box!
C, Dorset says...
3:07pm Wed 19 Mar 08
ex sot'on, Abingdon says...
3:34pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Horrified, hampshire says...
5:43pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Fiona, Eastleigh says...
6:22pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I would just like to say ....I take photo's at funerals, as the hurst arrives and all the flower's , And of the family and friends as they go into the service I do not invade the very private time of other's as they suffer in the grief at the loss of a loved one at the service. I offer this service for free and Also if the family want i will make a cd of all the photo's i have taken ,again i do not charge for this.This is somthing I offer. No way would i dream of taken advantage and puting a charge to this!!! .
Calming influence, says...
7:04pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Yeah it can be seen as morbid - and I service I'd ever use - but if they want to do it let them.
It seems that rational thought goes out of the window on the Internet.
mangobean, Eastleigh says...
9:19pm Wed 19 Mar 08
as the hurst arrives
That'll be a hearse then I guess?
mangobean, Eastleigh says...
9:23pm Wed 19 Mar 08
as the hurst arrives
Or are you a Geordie and referring to "the host"?
monkeysee, nearbuy says...
11:43pm Wed 19 Mar 08
JB Soton wrote:i need no permission to (video) web cast your sad face in public. its a sevice thats there if you want it. if not dont ask for it same as your line of work ."do you want frys with that".as for pikeys ask basil brush
I would not feel comfortable, knowing that my private, personal, grief was being video taped. How would this work? would the 'absent' person have to gain permission from all attending the funeral? The more I think about it the less I like the idea of it.If I could not attend a funeral I would send a wreath , and be content with my memories. This makes me think of 'pikeys' they take photos of loved ones lying in coffins, I also find this distastful.
wideawake, very close says...
12:03am Thu 20 Mar 08
Horrified wrote:this technology you whant less of is that the stuff you usd to give your opinion here.stop pointing at the moon and stop moaning about the fact you have been given a choice .if you dont wont it dont have it .but dont denie those that do.
This is nothing but the council taking a personal occasion for saying good bye to a loved one and turning it in to even more of a money making scheme. About time this world started relying less on technology
JB Soton, Gosport says...
12:07am Thu 20 Mar 08
JB Soton, Gosport says...
12:11am Thu 20 Mar 08
monkeysee wrote:just got in from the Pub have you muppet, hit a 'pickey' nerve did I?
JB Soton wrote:i need no permission to (video) web cast your sad face in public. its a sevice thats there if you want it. if not dont ask for it same as your line of work ."do you want frys with that".as for pikeys ask basil brush
I would not feel comfortable, knowing that my private, personal, grief was being video taped. How would this work? would the 'absent' person have to gain permission from all attending the funeral? The more I think about it the less I like the idea of it.If I could not attend a funeral I would send a wreath , and be content with my memories. This makes me think of 'pikeys' they take photos of loved ones lying in coffins, I also find this distastful.
paul capper funerals ltd, eastleigh says...
9:09am Thu 20 Mar 08
spam shiner, whitley caravan site says...
9:15am Thu 20 Mar 08
JB Soton wrote:is that pickey or pikey
monkeysee wrote:just got in from the Pub have you muppet, hit a \'pickey\' nerve did I?JB Soton wrote: I would not feel comfortable, knowing that my private, personal, grief was being video taped. How would this work? would the \'absent\' person have to gain permission from all attending the funeral? The more I think about it the less I like the idea of it.If I could not attend a funeral I would send a wreath , and be content with my memories. This makes me think of \'pikeys\' they take photos of loved ones lying in coffins, I also find this distastful.i need no permission to (video) web cast your sad face in public. its a sevice thats there if you want it. if not dont ask for it same as your line of work .\"do you want frys with that\".as for pikeys ask basil brush
Peter, Barrow, Cumbria. says...
9:30pm Tue 1 Apr 08
Who is worse ? Those who offer this as a serious, professional 'private' password protected service, or YOU for your 'cheap' shots.
As one who has just lost his Mother, I have just earned my stripes in grief 'the hard way' (and therefore do not wish it even upon you).
You will not be forced to watch these webcasts, but friends and relations of the family from around the world now can.
It's like most new things to the UK, you run for the hills if you can't understand it, crying 'morbid' and 'distasteful'.
Read 'more' and you will see that it is a discreet stationary camera placed usually at the back as if you were there in the congregation, and not invasive. It is NOT going out live on national TV, and most bereaved folk who are upset on the day and cannot come to terms with the death actually find it as a good for of closure, (and comfort in seeing who was there to support them).
We all have to die sometime so if you can't afford it, drink less, smoke less, gamble less, and put the money towards a funeral plan that will pay for it. It is 'one thing' that is certain to happen in your life. Also in future remember how crap you feel when you 'can't afford' the airfare to see your own loved ones off who are living abroad.
I for one am getting off my unemployed backside to 'audio only' record funerals for CD and the internet with a mutli thousand pound set-up cost and risk, and after a lot of 'very favourable' market research from folk who wish that 'they' had employed my services.
I am not a so called 'greedy' funeral director
and if you don't like the idea of being professionally buried (at cost) and not leaving anyone out who can't attend, then do it the cheap way and get your family to put you in a bin bag and shove you on the tip.
People need paying for everything in your life, or perhaps you think that all the beer you drink comes from a magic free fountain. You pay well for that !
I think funeral directors have a bad enough job sorting your dead corpses out and organising things professionally for grief stricken people, and deserve every penny they get.
You waste a fortune to live, but forget that it costs to die too. You should be prepared instead of landing it on your kids.
Wake up from the Victorian age, and realise that funerals are a 'celebration of life' for all 'concerned' with the deceased to share.
We all as a nation watched Princess Di on TV didn't you, so what's the difference ?
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