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Two-thirds of city could get fluoride in water
8:41am Thursday 29th May 2008
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DETAILED plans on how fluoride could be added to Southampton's tap water by the end of the year have been revealed for the first time.
The controversial proposals will see 160,000 residents - 67 per cent of the city's population - receiving fluoridated water.
Click here for part one of the report and here for part two
But this only covers seven of 11 "priority" areas identified by health chiefs, who want to add fluoride to the water to tackle the city's poor dental health.
Children in Southampton are among those with the poorest dental health in the country.
Bosses from the South Central Strategic Health Authority, which oversees Southampton City Primary Care Trust (PCT), meet today to decide whether to support a £178,000 public consultation on the proposals.
See our complete archive of fluoridation stories and reports
If feedback is positive, moves to add fluoride will go ahead. The Department of Health would pay the initial £471,000 to start the scheme and the PCT would be responsible for keeping it going at a cost of £60,500 each year.
The priority areas for fluoride that have been identified are: Freemantle and Polygon, Central Southampton, Weston, Portswood and St Denys, Outer Shirley, Shirley Estate and Lordshill.
Four other priority neighbourhoods - Townhill Park, Harefield, Thornhill and the Flowers Estate in Bassett - will not get fluoridated water because they are not supplied by the distribution centres at Otterbourne and Rownhams.
City schools with worst dental records - click here
The plans have been opposed by the Hampshire Against Fluoridation campaign group.
Chairman John Spottiswoode said: "The benefits of water fluoridation are debatable and there is evidence of some nasty side effects. It is a violation of our human rights to push a very nasty chemical into our bodies without choice via the water supply, even if it is believed to be medicinal."
He said side effects can include skeletal fluorosis causing brittle bones, bone cancer, thyroid problems, brain damage and hypersensitive reactions. But local health chiefs are backing fluoridation.
The report that will go before the SHA, by Professor John Newton, regional director of public health, and Sandra White, a consultant in dental health, states: "It would be both feasible and cost-effective to adjust fluoride levels in the water supply to parts of Southampton."
A spokesman for the PCT added: "Water fluoridation is the single most effective public health measure for preventing tooth decay and improving oral health over a lifetime."
A spokesman for Hampshire Primary Care Trust said no other areas of the county receive fluoridated tap water and there are no plans to introduce it anywhere else in Hampshire.
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alex jones, austin says...
9:37am Thu 29 May 08
How would they like it if I was to dump some of my unwanted waste in their drink?
Lorraine Barter, Southampton says...
10:01am Thu 29 May 08
in the water in Polygon. There is no need to protect children's teeth here as hardly any families with children live in Polygon, it is a student ghetto.
From what I have seen of the soft drink and sweet products in supermarket trolleys
I would say that is the main problem
regarding tooth decay,
Simon Trebor, Weston says...
10:24am Thu 29 May 08
Ruth, Southampton says...
10:35am Thu 29 May 08
The Secret Truth, Southampton says...
10:55am Thu 29 May 08
baz, southampton says...
11:12am Thu 29 May 08
sean, southampton says...
11:36am Thu 29 May 08
Dan, Southampton says...
11:53am Thu 29 May 08
Don't panic, Southampton says...
12:02pm Thu 29 May 08
Personally, I'm ambivalent about fluoridation. It's too late for me, I was the victim of over enthusiastic Australian dentists in the 1960s when the NHS paid them by the filling. I now just have to go and get the fillings replaced every few years. But fluoridation is used in many other parts of the country without any apparent increase in the diseases John Spottiswoode is alarmed about but with a massive improvement in children's dental health.
Rick Linklater, Texas says...
1:52pm Thu 29 May 08
Bob444, Soton says...
3:19pm Thu 29 May 08
Rick Linklater wrote:The government's hidden agenda is out of the bag!
I heard Flouride makes you have a docile attitude to your suroundings and submit easier to authority. Sounds about right for the next lot of \'medecines\' they want to pump us with. We have to stop the decay and stench of corruption around us, and I\'m not talking teeth here.
paul bicknell, eastleigh says...
4:26pm Thu 29 May 08
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:42pm Thu 29 May 08
It actually acerbates deterioration of both teeth, Bones, and leads to a whole series of other dreadful diseases.
Other countries might ban imports of all drinks made in the UK as the more you drink the greater the concentration as this material does not exit the body readily.
Our Wine market has thrived as the UK climate has warmed hence this could have a disastrous effect.
The whole British drinks market could have to shut down millions of gallons of product would have to be scrapped.
Just think for every British Pint you drink your are loading your body with a deadly chemical another Stupid NU Labour idea.
There is a huge bulk of information on this subject available from TaskNews Health link below:
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com/tasknews/health.
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If you have any difficulty finding TaskNews Health there is a link from its sister site Dorset Visual Guide
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Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:47pm Thu 29 May 08
Dorset Visual Guide
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/index.htm
Barbara Murphy, Fawley says...
5:50pm Thu 29 May 08
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:51pm Thu 29 May 08
Dorset Visual Guide
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/index.htm
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:51pm Thu 29 May 08
Dorset Visual Guide
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/index.htm
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
5:53pm Thu 29 May 08
Dorset Visual Guide
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/index.htm
concerned, southampton says...
7:13pm Thu 29 May 08
concerned, southampton says...
8:12pm Thu 29 May 08
Dan wrote:MAJORITY
I live in Polygon & will be fully supporting this. However I think the shouting few will probably win the arguement.
Sandyk, southampton says...
10:08pm Thu 29 May 08
Then put a tax on fizzy drinks and sweets.
My daughter has discoloured teeth due to the natural fluoride in the water in essex when we lived there.She will have to pay quite a lot of money to have them whitened.
will people be compensated if this happens to them ?
Jim Schultz, Ormond Beach Fl USA says...
10:37pm Thu 29 May 08
Winston Smith, Shirley says...
9:33am Fri 30 May 08
Carl Barron, Dorset says...
4:38pm Fri 30 May 08
Quote If you want to stop this criminal assault, argue law, not science (bogus or otherwise).
Reply Brilliant suggestion Winston use the Law to fight this abuse.
Start an on Line Petition here on the Echo. State that we the Public will sue the Water Companies for any effects that may come about from the use of fluoride in the water
Here is the Link to UK Gov Petitions on Line
http://petitions.pm.
gov.uk/
The Water Companies wont want to risk massive Law Suits if the y have any sense at all?
N Russell, Chandlers Ford says...
11:31am Fri 6 Jun 08
The government should sort out dental care crisis for children and do more to encourage healthy foods. Kids with bad teeth generally have a poor diet. I regularly see babies drinking squash in bottles for example. I have tried to be sensible diet-wise with my 3 children and so far we have done well dentally. We have a private dentist as ours would not have free dental care otherwise...its disgusting! I personally do not want flouride added to my water. There needs to be more studies on the long term health risks of yet another chemical forced upon us. Has the government thought of the increase of costs to the NHS for people suffering with various problems due to flouridation?? If it is added against the majority vote then it will be bottled water for me. I do not want it!!
Jennifer, Hampshire says...
6:09pm Mon 7 Jul 08
In 1999, Earl Baldwin of Bewdley asked Her Majesty's Government:
"In view of the absence of any relevant scientific studies cited in the US Review of Fluoride, 1991, referred to in the Written Answer by Baroness Hayman on 8 February (WA 1-2), whether they can quote any other scientific sources in support of their belief that dental fluorosis is only a cosmetic side-effect of fluoride and not an indication of early toxicity."
Baroness Hayman responded, in a Written Answer, for the Government: "We accept that dental fluorosis is a manifestation of systemic toxicity. . " - (Hansard, 20 Apr 1999 : WA 158.).
It is estimated that, as in Ireland, 48% - 54% of children living in fluoridated areas develop dental fluorosis, which dentists refuse to treat on the NHS.
cosmicboy, Bitterne says...
10:57pm Sat 20 Sep 08
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hulla, baloo says...
9:27am Thu 29 May 08
Maybe more to do withfizzy drinks, burgers, sweets and lack of cleaning etc
than needing flouride in water.
What rights do the general public have if they have no wish for this addition?