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Dutch duo fly in as Pearson leaves

12:36pm Friday 30th May 2008

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Saints have sensationally ditched the manager who saved them from relegation and replaced him with a Dutch coach.

Nigel Pearson was last night told his contract will not be renewed when it runs out this summer.

Pearson, who only joined the club in mid-February, therefore leaves after just 14 games in charge.

He was hailed a hero after Saints dramatically avoided relegation from the Championship earlier this month by beating Sheffield United 3-2 at St Mary's on the last day of the season.

In Pearson's place, directors Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde have brought in Jan Poortvliet, who played for Holland in the 1978 World Cup final.

Poortvliet, who has never worked in England, will head up a four-man coaching team that also includes another Dutch-man, Mark Wotte, as well as current Saints academy coach David Hockaday and St Mary's reserve team boss Stewart Henderson.

Poortvliet and Wotte have agreed to join on modest contracts but with big incentives for success.

Football board chairman Wilde said: "We held a meeting with Nigel which was extremely constructive and helpful. We're sure he will be a well respected manager in the future at whatever club he ultimately goes to."

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dave, millbrook says...
8:10am Fri 30 May 08

LOWE AND WILDE OUT.

Mark, Southampton says...
8:10am Fri 30 May 08

What the hell !!!

Never heard of this dutch guy.

I cannot believe Lowe & Wilde. They have just lost the fans support, even before the new season begins..............


Pearson was the man who can motivate and get the best out of players. Now we have an unknown manager....well done lowe and wilde. Nice to see that lowe has picked up where he left off !!!!!!

I have a horrible feeling we will be fighting relegation again next season......

Insane, says...
8:10am Fri 30 May 08

Every day in everyway, it just gets more and more insane at Southampton Football Club.

Unlucky Pearson, but in Lowe's eyes, you were the old boards choice, so no way could Rupert work with someone who he didn't personally approve of.

Instead we get a couple of people that barely anyone have heard of who have no track record. Insane.

But then Rupert is back in charge and if he didn't kill the club the first time round, he almost certainly will now.

The man is a cancer. Southampton will never be cured whilst he has anything to do with the club.

Gaz, southampton says...
8:23am Fri 30 May 08

Had anyone heard of Wegner b4 he arrd at Arsenal give the lads a chance

rob, winchester says...
8:26am Fri 30 May 08

get those two muppets out the board room NOW

Ruperts Nemisis, Siouthampton says...
8:26am Fri 30 May 08

Nice to see Lowe has learned nothing from his past mistakes. It would be very interesting for him to explain that one to the fans, but then he has his poodle in Michael Wilde to have to front that one up.

Remember this Mr Lowe, brand loayalty will only take you so far, your only income stream is the common fan, disregard them at your peril.



couzzy, says...
8:29am Fri 30 May 08

Is this april fools or something???!!!!

This is the darkest day in our history and yet i fear there are many more to come. On top of all that comes THE biggest contradiction when lowe states they had a very productive meeting with pearson.......they sacked him!!!!! How the hell is that productive!!!!!!

How are we supposed to believe that this is a good idea when wehave used coaches such as wigley and gray, all lowes choices incidentally who have bought nothing but inept performances and bad results and the biggest selling point in this appointment? He played in a world cup final!!! woop de doo!! I played in a tyro cup final 12 years ago, does that make me qualified????

so come on lowe fans , defend this shocker...........

GRIM REAPER, says...
8:29am Fri 30 May 08

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Once again we have gone for the cheap option... sounds like we shall be playing the youth team next year as we will of let all the first teamers go...money is tight and nobody is complaining about that but i didn't pay for my season ticket to see continetial style in a league that as we found out last season needs to be full of battlers..look at Bristol city.. guess when the season starts we will know but watch out lowe/wild if we lose the first few games your heads will be on poles very quickly..the fans won't stand for another season like the last one..

bewildered saint, london says...
8:30am Fri 30 May 08

What is this bloke on. He takes over again with no money and no idea how to can get any. Brings in two Dutch guys that cost less than one english one and assures us a bunch of kids will be fine for next season. Wait til their heads drop after a few defeats and see where we go. I will be very surprised if we are near the top of, what is a crap league, at any stage next season.

More relegation stress at St Marys is the order of the day or I'm a dutchman

Lowe Out, says...
8:32am Fri 30 May 08

Gaz wrote:
Had anyone heard of Wegner b4 he arrd at Arsenal give the lads a chance
Yes, Wenger was a well known manager and won the league with Monaco and done well in the European Cup with them too.

These two dutch fellas are coaching in the 2nd tier of dutch football, which is a non-league standard compared to English football.

Hank, says...
8:33am Fri 30 May 08

Who said that the saints had hit rock bottom, it seems that were not quite there yet but lowe will achieve this very soon I think.
The only upside to this (if there can be one) is that he has acted before the season starts, and not 10 games in.
Me thinks it's going to be a very long season.

Phil, Downton says...
8:35am Fri 30 May 08

It is really harsh on Nigel Pearson after he kept us up, but we still needed to win on the last day and rely on other results so it was not the resounding success some seem to believe, although we did stay up!!

The reality is Saints either continue to wheel and deal with loans and experienced players in the hope we can reach the play offs by a combination of sweat and strength OR we do something radical like give youth a chance!!!

I for one want to see Saints play a passing game with a team of players giving everything for the club, genuinely giving everything for the club and not playing just for the contract and money.
I want to see our academy flourish and I want to see Saints develop young players who get a chance to play in the first team. I hope we get into the premiership and we are able to keep the best of our home grown players but if we dont, selling them is the reality of survival.
I welcome something new and radical, I am looking forward to next season. I am sorry that Nigel Pearson has not got the track record of developing the youth and I am truly grateful for the wheeling and dealing that brought in the keeper and centre backs that saved us BUT I want Saints to have a real future, not just temporary survival.
Come on you reds!!!

Phil, Downton says...
8:35am Fri 30 May 08

It is really harsh on Nigel Pearson after he kept us up, but we still needed to win on the last day and rely on other results so it was not the resounding success some seem to believe, although we did stay up!!

The reality is Saints either continue to wheel and deal with loans and experienced players in the hope we can reach the play offs by a combination of sweat and strength OR we do something radical like give youth a chance!!!

I for one want to see Saints play a passing game with a team of players giving everything for the club, genuinely giving everything for the club and not playing just for the contract and money.
I want to see our academy flourish and I want to see Saints develop young players who get a chance to play in the first team. I hope we get into the premiership and we are able to keep the best of our home grown players but if we dont, selling them is the reality of survival.
I welcome something new and radical, I am looking forward to next season. I am sorry that Nigel Pearson has not got the track record of developing the youth and I am truly grateful for the wheeling and dealing that brought in the keeper and centre backs that saved us BUT I want Saints to have a real future, not just temporary survival.
Come on you reds!!!

Taylor, says...
8:39am Fri 30 May 08

I had high hopes for this season with pearson, i thought alot of the players would stay and i thought we had a real chance. Now with these two duch incharge the players will loose faith and will move on, and have a look whos falt it is! I wounder if they actually that everyone hates them!

Can they speak english?

And could somone please tell me whats going on with the players are they staying or going?

Thank you

mikael, southampton says...
8:40am Fri 30 May 08

this football club is pathetic!!!

Captain Swing, Southampton says...
8:42am Fri 30 May 08

Here we go, back to the old routine. I'll say one thing for Rupert's detractors, you can never accuse them of pasimony over exclimation marks.
Expect loony postings from "Pompey fans" imminently, followed by rancorous responses.

Simon Templar, Woolston says...
8:47am Fri 30 May 08

Pearson knew the players, the set-up, the opposition, so what does Lowe do, bring in someone who knows jack about anything. I, and many, many others, are finished with Saints under Lowe and his constant mis-management.

Cue the PR nobodies coming on here spouting how we have unearthed a gem and give the new set-up. IT WON'T WORK, IT COULD NEVER WORK, AND IT 6 MONTHS TIME WE WILL BE EVEN WORSE OFF.

A disgusting, short-sighted, penny pinching decision, the club is rancid from the top down.

bewilderedsaint, london says...
8:48am Fri 30 May 08

we all want to see that Phil, but as someone else said this league is about tough long ball battlers and to me that does not sound the type of league in which young ball playing boys will do well. We will need more than a couple of hardened grizzly old pros to battle us out of this league, and kids don't fit the bill. Also unless we get back to the premiership soon are the kids going to come here or to Villa West Ham or any other such club. If you were their dad who would you choose? at this time the academy is a red herring

The_Shotster, Southampton says...
8:49am Fri 30 May 08

Again we see fools and non-supporters condemning the new 'Head Coach' before he has even started his new job! Get a life people. You need to see the results before you make a judgement. As Gaz from Southampton says, nobody had really heard of Wenger before he managed Arsenal! Wake up Saints fans and get behond the club FOR A CHANGE!

steve, southampton says...
8:49am Fri 30 May 08

Lowe tried but failed to get Wotte when old twitchy left. Loks like he has got his way now - feel sorry for NP as he did what he was brought in to do. Just hope the new pairing can settle quickly and assemble the squad they want not want lowe wants -just hope he will stay out of football matters - well i can always dream!! COYR

MB, Soton says...
8:51am Fri 30 May 08

Speechless....

Tony, Fareham says...
8:55am Fri 30 May 08

League One Beckons! That is If liquidation doesn't get the club first!

Hank, says...
8:58am Fri 30 May 08

This has to be the the most insane lowe appointment ever.
There must be a reason for this Rupert, who advised you with this appointment, feel free to explain to the long suffering fans of our club, we deserve more than this.

Lou, Southampton says...
9:00am Fri 30 May 08

Absolutley gobsmacked
I don't think he has been given a fair chance in 14 games to prove himself.

Lowe Out, says...
9:07am Fri 30 May 08

Absolute disgrace and sick and tired of the lies that come out of Michael Wilde's mouth.

Lowe and Wilde never ever had any intention of keeping Pearson.

The financial stuff is again yet more spin as the cost of these 'two' coaches will certainly add up.

Also bearing in mind Pearson has had plenty of work with England U21s then i imagine he would of had plenty of experience to move young players into the first team.

The whole thing is a complete and utter shambles.

Lowe and Wilde OUT

Boycott merchandise and cash starve Lowe and Wilde into adminstration.

lyn, southampton says...
9:09am Fri 30 May 08

If these guys can take the kids and make a decent team Lowe will sell any young players that show promise!!

saintsfan, southampton says...
9:14am Fri 30 May 08

wheres all you lowe fans now hey? remember when he came back you were here backing him saying give him a chance, didn't take him long to get rid of another manager already! Oh the good old days are back well i put down us to have 3 managers so only two to go! Come on you lowe fans anything to say you tw#ts!

Simon Templar, Woolston says...
9:17am Fri 30 May 08

Lowe Out wrote:
<b> Absolute disgrace and sick and tired of the lies that come out of Michael Wilde's mouth.

Lowe and Wilde never ever had any intention of keeping Pearson.

The financial stuff is again yet more spin as the cost of these 'two' coaches will certainly add up.

Also bearing in mind Pearson has had plenty of work with England U21s then i imagine he would of had plenty of experience to move young players into the first team.

The whole thing is a complete and utter shambles.

Lowe and Wilde OUT

Boycott merchandise and cash starve Lowe and Wilde into adminstration.</b>
Boycott Merchandise AND Matches. Don't let Lowe win this one, let's go out fighting, we havent got anything to lose, the club isn't ours anymore or even offering us hope.

It will only ever be Lowe's play thing until something drastic happens. If its liquidation with all the risks involved then so be it, its the only hope that something better may come out of it.

Sad, sad times to be a Sotonian.

gorf, soton says...
9:24am Fri 30 May 08

double dutch.

ah well hope they get us up there

Louise Jones, Hythe, Southampton says...
9:25am Fri 30 May 08

Todays annoucment tht Nigel Pearson is leaving really disguts me. Rupert Lowe is taking a gambl thatt will never pay off. In 2010 we will be playing in League 1 football because of one man: Rupert low. Thanks very much mr chairman. Good Luck to Nigel Pearson. Rupert Lowe, get out or appoint someone we have heard of.

sfc, soton says...
9:27am Fri 30 May 08

im gutted NP was quality! i bet NP will soon be of to leicester, i wish him luck where ever he goes and proves the two muppets at sms wrong!

blue, gosport says...
9:33am Fri 30 May 08

I remember when we appointed Jim Smith as manager in 91 in place of the popular Tony Barton who had kept us up people were outraged, believing Smith was on the edge of retirement.
In his first game he selected all the kids.

We got to the semi final of the cup and just missed out on the play-offs.
The real question for you is whether your youth team contains players of the calibre of Awford, Symons, Lee Russell, Daryll Powell and Darren Anderton. If you have you've got a chance.

Lowe only came back to try and stave off the imminent threat of administration which would have lost him all his money immediately.
I don't think you have and this looks like condeming your youth team to get chewed up and spat out by probably the physically toughest league in the world.
However, I think you are all missing the point here. You couldn't afford to do anything else.

Joke club fan, Bitterne says...
9:35am Fri 30 May 08

Yet again that toffee nosed duck shooter has made our club a laughing stock. This appointment has got relegation written all over it. We are a joke!!!!

Two things, Southampton says...
9:43am Fri 30 May 08

The only two things I can take out of this with any encouragement are:

1. Celtic put a relatively unknown manager in charge - Wim Jansen and he delivered our first title in 9 years! Even after losing our first 2 league games. Plus he signed a lot of unheard of talent - Henrick Larsson anyone?

2. Look what wonders De Canio did with QPR last season with no money, he was realtively unknown too.

Lets get behind the team and see how good these guys are, if results don't go our way then start the moaning, we're so defeatist at the moment!

Pricesboy, Petersfield says...
9:44am Fri 30 May 08

How long do you give Poortoilet under Duck Shooter Woopert's new regime?

Tim, Ocean Village says...
9:46am Fri 30 May 08

Can't Lowe work out if we had the same form all season as the last 5 games we would have finished 3rd. He does not have a clue. Pearson had the fans with him and Lowe should also have been smart enough to know he needed this. But then again.........

Chav free zone, Swaythling says...
9:47am Fri 30 May 08

Lowe and wilde thank you i didn't think our beloved football club could sink any further but yes you've done it. Nigel Pearson instilled some belief back and in one fell swoop he gets the boot. You two are the scum of the earth now please do the decent think and get out of Southampton FC now.

skateh8er, have a guess.. says...
9:47am Fri 30 May 08

Rupert Lowe's red and white army! lowe for prime minister. f**king idiot.

whizz-kid, Woolston says...
9:48am Fri 30 May 08

We needed a man with "balls" who could tell the players exactly what needed to be said.
We needed a man who could spot potential in our whole squad including the youth set-up.
We needed a man with an extensive knowledge of English football who was able to spot where we needed strengthening and was able to get somebody to fill the gap.
We needed a man who had shown that even though he only played for "unfashionable" clubs, his commitment as a captain meant his teams boxed above their weights, getting promotion and to Finals.
We needed a man who showed respect on and off the field, and who could deal with the misdeanours of some of our players.
We had him, we let him go.
Now watch him go to the highest level with another club.

Rob Cole, Covent Gardern says...
9:52am Fri 30 May 08

I was looking forward to the new season until this morning. Who the hell do Wilde and Lowe think they are? This decision is very wilde and very low on the fans and Nigel Pearson.

Scumboy, Shirley says...
9:52am Fri 30 May 08

DISGRACEFUL...

I remember how poor we were when played Plymouth jus before Pearson took over, the improvement he made by end of season was nothing short of remarkable. Now this... an absolute nobody... disgusting. What is Lowe playing at, seriously???!!

Disgruntled, Southampton says...
9:56am Fri 30 May 08

I am contacting the club today for a refund on my season ticket - I purchased that under the impression that Pearson was staying and we stood a chance - now what hope do we have. Spect I will be sitting on the pavement outside the stadium protesting for Lowe out !!

Nicola, Southampton says...
9:57am Fri 30 May 08

I think the decision to get rid of Nigel Pearson is stupid. Since he came to Saints he has given the players the confidence and motivation and that they all desperately needed, and the fans could see this in the players. He saved us from relegation, so why get rid of him? I think he would of been willing to take a pay cut to stay in charge of Saints. Instead Lowe and Wilde replace him with a dutch man who many of us haven't heard of!! Apparently he made Christiano Ronlado, BUT has never worked in England before therefore my views of the new Saints management are very limited and think i could see us slippin in the future!! However everyone deserves a chance!!

Scumboy, Shirley says...
9:58am Fri 30 May 08

And... guaranteed 12 months down the line, whoever Pearson is in charge of, they'll be doing very well, good luck to him, a very talented young coach. I'm absolutely gutted about this...

pompeyUN, Sunny Southsea says...
9:59am Fri 30 May 08

Oh dear, looks another successful season.
Is it pronounced Poor-Toilet only I'm not an expert on the Dutch language unless we have to go there on our European Tour next season.

whizz-kid, says...
10:00am Fri 30 May 08

Scumboy wrote:
DISGRACEFUL... I remember how poor we were when played Plymouth jus before Pearson took over, the improvement he made by end of season was nothing short of remarkable. Now this... an absolute nobody... disgusting. What is Lowe playing at, seriously???!!
Poortvliet and Wotte are FAR from being nobodies!, but still a HUGE gamble.

Ha, says...
10:02am Fri 30 May 08

pompeyUN wrote:
Oh dear, looks another successful season. Is it pronounced Poor-Toilet only I'm not an expert on the Dutch language unless we have to go there on our European Tour next season.
You mean when Pompey poo their pants when they meet a good team?

Its ok, it will be a short european tour. You won't get past the 1st team you meet.

Mike, Soton says...
10:08am Fri 30 May 08

Cracking Echo scoop!

Scumboy, Shirley says...
10:15am Fri 30 May 08

whizz-kid wrote:
Scumboy wrote: DISGRACEFUL... I remember how poor we were when played Plymouth jus before Pearson took over, the improvement he made by end of season was nothing short of remarkable. Now this... an absolute nobody... disgusting. What is Lowe playing at, seriously???!!
Poortvliet and Wotte are FAR from being nobodies!, but still a HUGE gamble.
From the saints website...

"Poortvliet was with Helmond Sport while Wotte has been coaching with Al Ahli Doha in Qatar."

I repeat, a pair of NOBODIES...

Chuckyyy, Soton says...
10:20am Fri 30 May 08

Phil wrote:
It is really harsh on Nigel Pearson after he kept us up, but we still needed to win on the last day and rely on other results so it was not the resounding success some seem to believe, although we did stay up!! The reality is Saints either continue to wheel and deal with loans and experienced players in the hope we can reach the play offs by a combination of sweat and strength OR we do something radical like give youth a chance!!! I for one want to see Saints play a passing game with a team of players giving everything for the club, genuinely giving everything for the club and not playing just for the contract and money. I want to see our academy flourish and I want to see Saints develop young players who get a chance to play in the first team. I hope we get into the premiership and we are able to keep the best of our home grown players but if we dont, selling them is the reality of survival. I welcome something new and radical, I am looking forward to next season. I am sorry that Nigel Pearson has not got the track record of developing the youth and I am truly grateful for the wheeling and dealing that brought in the keeper and centre backs that saved us BUT I want Saints to have a real future, not just temporary survival. Come on you reds!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Seriously phil, you are deluded mate, **** off...

Peter_C, Kent says...
10:21am Fri 30 May 08

I'm a Pompey fan but you have my sympathy - I'm not here to gloat. I know how grim it is following a club which is taken to the depths by misguided, grasping directors (and that's putting it mildly). All you can do is hang on in there and hope for better times post-Lowe. They will come. Getting rid of Pearson seems insane however - a decent manager whose salary surely could not have made the difference in escaping administration. Poor performances under this Dutch duo will cost more. Maybe they will surprise everyone but selection by Lowe (why is he still allowed near Southampton) is not a good omen.

ScumSlayer, Pompey says...
10:23am Fri 30 May 08

Ha wrote:
pompeyUN wrote: Oh dear, looks another successful season. Is it pronounced Poor-Toilet only I'm not an expert on the Dutch language unless we have to go there on our European Tour next season.
You mean when Pompey poo their pants when they meet a good team? Its ok, it will be a short european tour. You won't get past the 1st team you meet.
I can't remember pompey pooing their pants last season, In fact I remember a lions performance against Manure. At least we get the chance to play in Europe next season, you have a season of Lowe in charge to look forward to. Chin up Scummer it can only get better LMFAO!

Saint23, Eastleigh says...
10:24am Fri 30 May 08

I understand that the club has financial restraits, but this appointment & the reasoning are just another one of Lowes attempts to try & show us that he knows about football.
He wants the club to take a more continental approach when surely with last seasons position & the financial state of the club it would be a time for us to roll up our sleeves, dig in & show some English spirit.
NP would have done this, but if he was to expensive then surely we could have matched what Wycombe are paying Peter Taylor in league 2 & got some one of his experience in the English game in.

Peter Rea, West End says...
10:25am Fri 30 May 08

So Lowe and the Quisling Wilde have hardly got their feet under the table before Lowe is up to his favourite party trick of disprupting the stability of the club by firing managers. Is he after a place in the Guinness Book of Records? Is he also after the record for managerial appointments, hiring two at a time now?
At a vital time in the Club's history, we sack a decent manager who had shown signs of turning the team around and deny him the opportunity to prove his worth with a full season. We do this to appoint two replacements, both of whom are completely inexperienced in British football and whose experience of management in Dutch football was at a lower level than this. We really must be stark raving bonkers! The fact that the wage bill for these two will be lower than that paid to Nigel Pearson speaks volumes; if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
But on the bright side, if these two fail dismally, then everybody will know precisely where the blame lies; squarely on the shoulders of Lowe. I'm finding it incredibly difficult not to hope that they do fail, so that we can rid the club of Lowe once and for all.

blue, Gosport says...
10:25am Fri 30 May 08

Ha wrote:
<b>
pompeyUN wrote:
Oh dear, looks another successful season. Is it pronounced Poor-Toilet only I'm not an expert on the Dutch language unless we have to go there on our European Tour next season.
You mean when Pompey poo their pants when they meet a good team?

Its ok, it will be a short european tour. You won't get past the 1st team you meet.</b>
You mean like playing the Champions and European Champions on their own ground with their best team out and on fire in an FA Cup Quarter Final?

Lowes' biggest mistake was not giving Redknapp the money. If he was going to gamble then he should have gone the whole hog and let him spend the parachute payments in advance. Then that would have been you clutching a trophy.

Hans, Amsterdam says...
10:25am Fri 30 May 08

U bent in groot probleem met deze 2 verantwoordelijke nobodies. Indien Rupert Lowe enkel shtopppp

Sgt M Edwards, Germany says...
10:37am Fri 30 May 08

In all my years as a Saints fan I have never known anything like it, a complete shambles, I fear for the future of Saints.

Mick Channon, says...
10:40am Fri 30 May 08

Tony wrote:
League One Beckons! That is If liquidation doesn't get the club first!
Oooo aaaaargh!! Oi be turrrning in me grave, so oi be.

James Everett, Rownhams says...
10:41am Fri 30 May 08

I hope that lowe n wilde have some money to get us somewhere because they are gunna need it without pearson!
It will be stupid dutch idiots who dont know a lot about the game!
After what he did for us and they got rid of him!!?? bring on the new poor season!

Dag Rune Stedje, Norway says...
10:49am Fri 30 May 08

For christ sake - give the new men a break.
Support them instead of turning yourself against them. Morons

Terry Fenwick, London says...
11:05am Fri 30 May 08

Can't believe I've been over looked! Why go Dutch....

Jeverett, Rownhams says...
11:05am Fri 30 May 08

Nah because he will ruin this club!!!

You are proberly 1 of the 3% percent to get pearson out where as the rest of us (97%) wanted him to stay in!

LOWE N WILDE OUT!

stevo, says...
11:06am Fri 30 May 08

Poor Pearson. How did an amzing job with a sub standard team and gets rewarded with the boot. I pray to god this works because if it doesnt Saints fans will be after Lowe and Wilde big time.

Wonder if the attendences will continue to go down next season and if the fans will be roaring again like they did with Pearson in that near miss last game?

Sam, Shaftesbury says...
11:08am Fri 30 May 08

looks like the circus is back on at St. Mary's. Didn't Lowe and Wilde get the hint last time??!!

gubersaint, says...
11:12am Fri 30 May 08

Looking at who's done well in the championship over the last few years, its definitely the case that experience is critical. Stoke, Hull and West Brom have shown it this year (even if West BRom played the prettier football). And even our few successful loanees - Wright, Perry and Lucketti - have shown it. I have my doubts about a youth heavy policy (experienced loans would be the better way) but I hope to be proved wrong. Anyway, Nigel thanks for every thing you've done. You're a top bloke who never let the off the field stress show, even when it might have been easy to capitulate.

Baz, Salisbury says...
11:21am Fri 30 May 08

I am absolutely disgusted with the treatment of Nigel Pearson. He had the support of the players, the fans, and appeared to be totally committed to our cause. The enthusiasm he showed on the touchline, was infectious and honest, (especially compared with George Burley). What is going on at my beloved club? Good luck Nigel,and thankyou, we all know that you WILL be successful, wherever you work next.

DanPFC, says...
11:22am Fri 30 May 08

Ha wrote:
pompeyUN wrote: Oh dear, looks another successful season. Is it pronounced Poor-Toilet only I'm not an expert on the Dutch language unless we have to go there on our European Tour next season.
You mean when Pompey poo their pants when they meet a good team? Its ok, it will be a short european tour. You won't get past the 1st team you meet.
What, just like your last jaunt into Europe ?

1st round exit I believe.

We are ten times the team you had then my friend.

Keep clutching at straws though

Fred, Southampton says...
11:35am Fri 30 May 08

A kick in the teeth for Nigel after his stirling efforts to rescue us from the Burley mess. However, this could be a blessing in disguise. I could not think of a worse chairman, apart from Milan Maverick, to work for.

come back as a Championship manager with a club that accepts you and beat us.

joe, Hamble says...
11:37am Fri 30 May 08

Its a gamble, lets hope it works out, come on!!

leesaint, behind blue lines says...
11:41am Fri 30 May 08

1st of many I suppose. How much money did Lowe waste last time sacking managers and buying out their contracts. I take it Dodd and Gorman are gone as well. they were a waste of cash. Will Dutch total football work in the Championship with not very skillful players liek ours.. I doubt it somehow

mapman, Southampton says...
11:58am Fri 30 May 08

Nigel did a really good job. Lets hope the 2 new guys do as well if not Lowe can always try again as he always does.
Good Luck Nigel were ever you go.


Ted Bates, From Above says...
11:59am Fri 30 May 08

I rekon we should have got in Danny La Rue, he's such a charming man.

didum, says...
12:01pm Fri 30 May 08

"Poortvliet and Wotte have agreed to join on modest contracts but with big incentives for success."

Poor decision, Poor choice, Poor Poortvliet.
How many times did Lowe go and watch this man doing his job?
The championship is the promise land. With this handicap before the season has even started I fear we are in nomands land.


Former Northam Ranter, Burley says...
12:12pm Fri 30 May 08

When are Saints fans going to see things realistically instead of viewing the events through 'rose coloured spectacles'.

The financial facts are in the audited accounts-bordering on administration!

Crouch and Co frittered away the £7M balances and their answer to everything was to throw money at a problem even when the coffers were empty - the financial sense of the madhouse!!

We are now fortunate to have proper businessmen in control.They have to work to the plans agreed with the Bank-they have no choice or the Club goes under.(Sadly what some fans seem to want).If the assets are sold including the stadium,then the club will disappear forever.
The new management are working to a proper financial discipline and it is pleasing to see some strong sensible control and management at last.
Emotion plays no part in bankers terms.The Club could not afford Pearson.It is pointless living above your means.Far from hailing him as some sort of saviour we should recognise that the club was almost relegated - not an impressive record.If it had been, the usual ranters would have been braying for him to be replaced.
I am sure that all intelligent fans will recognise the realities of the Clubs position and be reassured that at last we have people in charge who understand how to run a business.

John, Bishops Waltham, says...
12:31pm Fri 30 May 08

Nothing changes! Lowe drove Saints down to the Championship with his meddling and the numerous ill informed managerial changes. Now he's back and his first footballing decision is to sack a manager who had the support of the majority of fans and, by all accounts, the respect of the players. I make that several thousand against you two muppets. Take a look at Leicester Lowe, relegated after unsettling the team with a succession of managers. Sound familiar? Have you learnt nothing? Division One here we come!

Aaron Staples, Southampton says...
12:36pm Fri 30 May 08

Well-done Lowe and Wilde you've lost the fans support before the season started, Nigel Pearson was the one who kept us in the Championship, he was a Saints hero now you just go and ditch him like some old rag toy, this manager has never been heard off and you bring him in just because his wages are lower, I never want Lowe and Wilde back in the first place cos I fort they would leave off where they started, now me forts have become a fact, all Saints can look forward to now is a relegation battle and booing Lowe and Wilde out the club once again how fun.... hope your proud Lowe and Wilde you've messed it up again!

Nigel Powers, Soho says...
12:41pm Fri 30 May 08

I can't stand the Dutch, they share a border with the Belgians.

Graham Hepburn, Chandler's Ford says...
12:48pm Fri 30 May 08

So forest get promoted and spend 2.65 m on rob earnshaw who is guaranteed to get them 20 plus goals next season in the championship and we get two managers who we have nEver heard of?

lyn, southampton says...
12:55pm Fri 30 May 08

I accept we need financial discipline for the future. Wonder how much of a pay cut Lowe and Wilde are prepared to take?

Nick, Enfield says...
12:57pm Fri 30 May 08

Lowe's made us a laughing stock again. Continental set up? Mowbray, Pulis & Brown didn't need a continental set up to get out of the Championship, and I can't think of a another club who has. And we all remember what a big success 'Reggie' Perrin was down the road. Not a penny more from me I'm afraid.

Gary, Southampton says...
12:57pm Fri 30 May 08

I've had enough now. Every year i justify to the wife why i should buy a Season Ticket for me and my son....This year i think i could put my hard earned money to better use... R.I.P Saints.....Its a sad, sad day.

Saints Oldie, says...
1:11pm Fri 30 May 08

Bates,McMenemy,Nicho
ls,Merrington were all untried and did not do so bad.Even WGS wasn't wanted by the fans.
I have lived all over the UK and watch who ever the local team is but my home town is Southampton and they are the only club I care about. You follow YOUR TEAM through thick and thin no matter who is in charge,so get behind the team and give the new men a chance.

Aaron, Southampton says...
1:19pm Fri 30 May 08

quote
Ahhh wonderful, we can now look forward to match day protests about the board and of course us fans won't be able to contain our protests during the match so once again we will end up chanting about the board rather than supporting the team for the whole 90 odd mins.

robbie, Netley says...
1:40pm Fri 30 May 08

This is so random.
I mean, Pearson is a quality manager and a very good motivator for the players.
I dont know about you lot, but I'm certainly glad that the change has occured well before pre-season. Could you imagine if this had happened in August?
We must be like benzene and maintain stability.

Seeing Red, says...
2:35pm Fri 30 May 08

This is a sad day after the elation of staying up, pitch invading and reigniting the passion on the south coast for the Saints I feel as though I have had the biggest crash down to earth ever. How could I of possibly thought that Lowe would make the right decision for the club over his financial pocket. What Saints have needed for a long time is consistency a firm foundation in which to build on and a goal to focus on and achieve. Pearson brought that to the Saints, I was looking forward to next season getting behind Pearson and the lads as we built on and learnt from the mistakes of last season. I would like to say good luck and thank you to Nigel wherever he ends up I am sure we will meet him in passing as he takes a team up to the premiership. I understand the financial problems currently at the club but this is still hard news to swallow.

Kidman, shirley wurly says...
3:17pm Fri 30 May 08

I am scared of what is going to happen on matchday 1 of the new season. This Janet Street Porter bloke is gonna have a bit of a shock when he tries to put a load of kids up against the, ahem, intricate and beautiful flowing style of teams in the championship. I fear his lack of experience is going to turn into a massive embarrassment for us, the humble fans. Remember Palace 4-1 this season? Exactly. Oh well, the comedy continues...

Get Real, The Real World says...
3:18pm Fri 30 May 08

Since when did Pearson become such a great manager. 4 wins in 17 attempts doesn't look great to me and if he's such a great motivator why did we capitulate to Burnley at home meaning we went into our last game cacking ourselves? Lowe HAS to make finacial decisions that the previous board avoided making for fear of upsetting the fans but the truth is we have been living beyond our means and Saints fans have to face up to the reality of our situation. Perhaps Saints fans should ask themselves are they motivated by the love of their club or their dislike of Lowe because if they object to the harsh facts of life they are deluding themselves.

Bob Beale, California says...
4:03pm Fri 30 May 08

While I applaud Nigel Pearson for what he acheived last season I think that this might be a good move.
Most of our players will be leaving, retiring etc. We would have been facing more of the same. Everyone was calling for the manager, who ever it ws at the time, to introduce youth and now we have a management team that apparently will do that.
Give them a chance, we may all be pleasantly surprised with the results next May.

Reg, says...
4:14pm Fri 30 May 08

Brilliant visionary move.Far too thought out for the average dim-witted Saints fan.
I am really excited about next season now.Think about with Pearson in charge it would have been the same as last season.Look at his record with us FFS !

Andy Andrews, Tunisia/West End says...
4:16pm Fri 30 May 08

BOGOF managers, bog off. Nigel's record was poor but look at what players he had. He deserved half a season to show what he could do with a new team. PS when are we getting rid of the wasters?

David, says...
4:17pm Fri 30 May 08

Get Real wrote:
Since when did Pearson become such a great manager. 4 wins in 17 attempts doesn't look great to me and if he's such a great motivator why did we capitulate to Burnley at home meaning we went into our last game cacking ourselves? Lowe HAS to make finacial decisions that the previous board avoided making for fear of upsetting the fans but the truth is we have been living beyond our means and Saints fans have to face up to the reality of our situation. Perhaps Saints fans should ask themselves are they motivated by the love of their club or their dislike of Lowe because if they object to the harsh facts of life they are deluding themselves.
Well said.Pearsons record for us was appalling.If we had kept him most fans would have been calling for Pearsons and Lowes head after a couple of games.

saintrob, Southampton says...
4:20pm Fri 30 May 08

How on earth can Wilde & Lowe start off using the excuse that the reason Pearson got the boot was down to money??? Do they have the memory of a goldfish? From what i understand, the pair of them forcing an EGM may have cost the club upwards of £500k......and now they have the ignorance to stand up and say that the fund were not there to keep Pearson.
I have not heard anything about the new boss....i guess it can;t be worse than Lowes last appointment, that well know footballing manager Clive Woodward??
Even if this new boss is told he's got to nurture academy talent...with Lowe in charge as soon as any good players make the first team they will be sold to the first bidder and Lowe will line his pockets at SFC's expense again.

sinfulsaint, Eastleigh says...
4:40pm Fri 30 May 08

Coming from a financial background I can see the sense in what Lowe and Wilde have done. Barclays (Saints Bank) have clearly been getting worried about how much the club relies on borrowing to fund ever day running costs of the club. Crouch and his mates are by all accounts complete idiots when it comes to running a business and I would liken them to the incredibly short sighted people who remortage the house to go on holiday!! (some of whom seem to post on this forum)

The simple fact is we would have gone into administration if Lowe and Wilde didn't start cutting the overheads of the business. And for idoits who think Administration is good idea then you clearly have no concept of what it would mean for the club as a business.

Pearson was an ok manager who JUST managed to keep us up by relying on other results. Admittedly he had to turn round the heep of sh#t the Burley left but He's not master tactician. I think he would have done ok next season but that still doesn't change the fact that half the team are old and tired and are quite happy just to pick up their fat pay cheque. They are dead wood an need to be chopped free. We need players that play for their shirt every week and the very real treat of being demoted by younger more eager players just might help.

BTW like most Dutch people the new coaches both speak very good English. It's only us ignorate Brits that can't grasp other languages (and sometimes our own is a struggle)




sam &amp; paul, sholing. says...
4:40pm Fri 30 May 08

We are disgusted that Pearson has been KICKED out of the club.We could see this coming cause they took so long to reach a decision.We feel sad cause we think he did a good job in the time that he spent at Southampton.His players respected him & so did the fans.(Well, most of us).We are 2 season ticket holders but we will not be re-newing them now.We were looking forward to the new season,but not anymore.
Good luck Nigel in whatever you do.

Lyn, Hythe says...
4:49pm Fri 30 May 08

Lowe is back to his old tricks! doesn't employee a manager but headcoach! Does this mean that by not employing a Manager, Mr Lowe wants toget more involved again and not stay in the boardroom!!!! for a second this morning I was cancelling my season ticket but after much soul searching have decided I'm a true fan and won't be leaving but it would be nice to have respect.

reefer, Marleys' Cafe, Amsterdam says...
5:55pm Fri 30 May 08

I am thinking here you need to give Poortoilet and Ju Wotte a chance here guys.

They will take players like Viafara and turn them into Cruyff without a doubt. I've got some pictures of ponies in dresses if anyone is interested?

L, La La Land says...
6:27pm Fri 30 May 08

I'm still in shock! I liked Pearson and the players seemed to like him and respect him!
Maybe this new Dutch bloke could get back Jelle Van Damme - at least he was good looking!!

Saddened Saint, Birmingham says...
6:45pm Fri 30 May 08

I am just so shocked that NP has been given the boot - the team looked to be finally coming good towards the end of the season, but now what?

No money, no real players of any note and Portsmouth pushing further and further ahead of us. Give it another couple of years of this and Aldershot will be the second club in Hampshire, with us a distant third. I think we'll be seeing the lowest attendances in many a year next season, but real incentive is there to go when it's likely to be a bunch of kids playing out of their depth.

I was going to renew my ST soon, but after thirty-odd years of supporting the Saints I think it is time to ease back. The commute from the midlands was getting to be a pain and with Burton Albion down the road, well I think I'll just end up going to the Pirelli from now on. Cheaper and at least I'll get to see some home wins.

A sad day for us and I bet they are laughing in to their beer tonight in Portsmouth. Who can blame them? Well done Rupert.

cfordred, cford says...
7:13pm Fri 30 May 08

we all knew this would happen ,l believe the club have quoted that the pair cost less in wages than poor old nigel, shows the direction they want to go CHEAP CHEAP

BlueRinse, Bournemouth says...
7:14pm Fri 30 May 08

Looking on the bright side, the 2 cloggies might be canny hockey players, for sure.

Fratton Chris, Farnborough says...
7:35pm Fri 30 May 08

Saddened Saint wrote:
I am just so shocked that NP has been given the boot - the team looked to be finally coming good towards the end of the season, but now what? No money, no real players of any note and Portsmouth pushing further and further ahead of us. Give it another couple of years of this and Aldershot will be the second club in Hampshire, with us a distant third. I think we'll be seeing the lowest attendances in many a year next season, but real incentive is there to go when it's likely to be a bunch of kids playing out of their depth. I was going to renew my ST soon, but after thirty-odd years of supporting the Saints I think it is time to ease back. The commute from the midlands was getting to be a pain and with Burton Albion down the road, well I think I'll just end up going to the Pirelli from now on. Cheaper and at least I'll get to see some home wins. A sad day for us and I bet they are laughing in to their beer tonight in Portsmouth. Who can blame them? Well done Rupert.
I'm a Pompey STH, but no Pompey jibes.

However, as one who also has a ST at Farnborough (my local club) it seems to me that, the way you are going and the way Farnborough are going, we will be playing in the same league in the not to distant future. This could make you fourth in Hampshire (assuming Eastleigh, H&W and Basingstoke stay where they are in the football pyramid).

Can't see what else Rupert could do as you are alledgedly losing £1 million a month. If you can't get a sugar daddy (or sugar mummy) to bankroll you, you have to start cutting your cloth appropriately.

wayno, home says...
7:50pm Fri 30 May 08

I heard through the garpevine that Pearson didnt like horses, Thats why he had to go :-)

sharpee, Camberley says...
8:22pm Fri 30 May 08

Phil wrote:
It is really harsh on Nigel Pearson after he kept us up, but we still needed to win on the last day and rely on other results so it was not the resounding success some seem to believe, although we did stay up!!

The reality is Saints either continue to wheel and deal with loans and experienced players in the hope we can reach the play offs by a combination of sweat and strength OR we do something radical like give youth a chance!!!

I for one want to see Saints play a passing game with a team of players giving everything for the club, genuinely giving everything for the club and not playing just for the contract and money.
I want to see our academy flourish and I want to see Saints develop young players who get a chance to play in the first team. I hope we get into the premiership and we are able to keep the best of our home grown players but if we dont, selling them is the reality of survival.
I welcome something new and radical, I am looking forward to next season. I am sorry that Nigel Pearson has not got the track record of developing the youth and I am truly grateful for the wheeling and dealing that brought in the keeper and centre backs that saved us BUT I want Saints to have a real future, not just temporary survival.
Come on you reds!!!
Spot on!
Your club is at stake here no money means no business get it?
All these whingers get on my proverbial. We need to move away from loan star rangers and journey men, so be it we have a young team, now where is that quote ..... " You won't win anything with youngsters"

Saint Dave, Waterside says...
11:04pm Fri 30 May 08

I met NP just before our final game, he said he was loving working at Southampton and he wanted us to win that game so much, he was a people person and took the time to listen and talk to my wife and I.It,s been too long since we have been to a game with such a great atmosphere, but that last game was sadley NP,S last. Again no stability. We are southampton fans and always will be, but no games for us for now.We are after 30yrs now calling it a day. I knew he would come back and spoil the party, but he wasn,t invited he just turned up, he is like a fly round a cows as*, he just won,t go away. We should have fought harder to keep Gorden but we let him go without a wimper. The fans are the club and we should,nt forget it.DON,T LET HIM WIN,

Nicky, St Denys says...
5:51pm Sat 31 May 08

Duh wrote:
WHO CARES?
I hope the football club dies and moves out of the City. At least then I wont have to look at pikey scum wearing pikey red and white pikey shirts every day. On football days I can't leave my house because of fear of drunks wearing footie shirts giving abuse. So get rid of them all!
Football = Violence
Football = Drunks
Football - Rioting
Football = Pikeys

So go away and sod SFC give us honest people a decent life.
honest people a decent life? I'm honest and I don't do ANYTHING you just said! If you don't like the few ****s that ruin it for everyone then why don't you leave the city?

Anyway on to the subject "hello League 1"

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