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Council set to agree £1.2m demolition fee


COUNCILLORS will today agree funding to tear down Southamp-ton’s landmark Tyrrell and Green building and turn the site into a park.

The boarded-up former department store, pictured right, is to be demolished so that it does not spoil the look of new developments springing up nearby.

Ambitious plans to turn it into two apartment towers and an arts complex, as the centrepiece of an arts and cultural quarter, collapsed after developer City Lofts pulled out this summer due to financial difficulties.

Ruling Tory council chiefs will today face questions over how they are going to revive the flagship scheme, which has been dogged by setbacks and delays.

They hope that a cleared site will be more appealing and will help to lure new developers to take it on. They will ask the council to approve up to £1.2m for the cost of demolition, to be recouped from the future sale of the plot.

Councillors want to take advantage of the demolition team booked to knock down the former C&A building in Guildhall Square to make way for a new office building for business services firm Capita.

Meanwhile, the budget for the proposed arts centre is set to shoot up again.

Councillors will be asked to approve a further £900,000 due to “inflationary pressures”.

It takes the budget to more than £14m from an original £8m.


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obelisker, Southampton says...
6:42am Wed 17 Sep 08

Good news and about time, it's an eyesore,although do we need more parkland?, Southampton is blessed with more than it's fair share.All that rubbish about Pevsner saying what a marvellous building it was, what he was remarking on was the fine service offered by T&G which he would still find today to a slightly lesser degree at John Lewis. Please don't start a campaign to stick an Ice Rink in it's place.

Condor Man, Southampton says...
7:18am Wed 17 Sep 08

with a number of art galleries already in the city centre I fail to see the need for another. It was simply a vanity project for the Lib Dums so the chattering classes could have somewhere to go to avoid the masses. A decent music venue to replace the Guildhall would be much better.

paul b, Mottisfont says...
7:59am Wed 17 Sep 08

the signs on the building say otherwisw


how about an ice rink

obelisker, Southampton says...
8:08am Wed 17 Sep 08

Condor Man wrote:
with a number of art galleries already in the city centre I fail to see the need for another. It was simply a vanity project for the Lib Dums so the chattering classes could have somewhere to go to avoid the masses. A decent music venue to replace the Guildhall would be much better.
Yea good call, so many bands avoid Southampton in favour of Pompey and Bournmouth due to the Guilhall's infamously crud acoustics for rock music. All this Art's Quarter and French Quarter who are they trying to kid! This is Southampton not Paris or Rome,the words polish and turd come to mind. The space will just become flats in a few years when the housing market starts to improve,until then like the V.T site in Woolston once it's flattened it will just lie there and wait and wait and wait.

Family Man, Bitterne says...
8:16am Wed 17 Sep 08

"The boarded-up former department store, pictured right, is to be demolished so that it does not spoil the look of new developments springing up nearby."

I can't think of any other "new developments springing up nearby" except for the Crapita offices, so it's quite right that they should have a nice view while they suck their pencils deep in thought of how to extract more money from the taxpayers!!! Interestingly, the security word this time was "Poor-town" which just about sums it up!!!!

Duncan Disorderly, Whereami says...
8:40am Wed 17 Sep 08

They could stick the funnel off the QE2 there, that the new owners don't want. It would make quite a striking monument.

Adrian Smith, Planet Earth says...
8:40am Wed 17 Sep 08

"approve up to £1.2m for the cost of demolition, to be recouped from the future sale of the plot"

I fully support the demolition of this eyesore - but the Council is deluding itself if it thinks it will get the £1.2m back.

Danae, Southampton says...
8:55am Wed 17 Sep 08

The Tyrell & Green building should NOT be demolished.

Leaving an ugly gap site in Above Bar North for many years would be far worse than finding good rent-paying uses for the building.

Those uses could even be in the Arts - the City Council should look at the precedent set by The Custard Factory (Birmingham).

No bank or other financial institution will want to fund flats or mid-scale new-build arts development in Southampton for possibly the next seven years.

This arises automatically from the financial industry's new loan-averse culture brought on by its serious imported and self-inflicted wounds.

obelisker, Southampton says...
9:13am Wed 17 Sep 08

Danae wrote:
The Tyrell & Green building should NOT be demolished.

Leaving an ugly gap site in Above Bar North for many years would be far worse than finding good rent-paying uses for the building.

Those uses could even be in the Arts - the City Council should look at the precedent set by The Custard Factory (Birmingham).

No bank or other financial institution will want to fund flats or mid-scale new-build arts development in Southampton for possibly the next seven years.

This arises automatically from the financial industry's new loan-averse culture brought on by its serious imported and self-inflicted wounds.
The T&G building has no architechtural merit and is of no use whatsoever, if it was, one would have been found, even the Uni. don't want it. What would be good is a simply built,low level facility for community art,musical and drama,a Gantry Mk2, because culturally Southampton is the pits.

vermin, toytown says...
1:33pm Wed 17 Sep 08

An ice rink would go nicely - a nice and central location

Ian24, Portswood says...
2:49pm Wed 17 Sep 08

Why do we put up with this type of unthought out spending.
This site today is not worth 1.2m to a developer what a complete waste of money and it shows no regard for tax payers. Throwing money at this site wont wake it more attractive. Build costs are higher than flat prices so this would not even sell for 1.2m.
Why don't the council just go to best bids and get shot of it and stop wasting our money.

ex so'ton, Abingdon says...
7:26pm Thu 18 Sep 08

Bring back the Clock and fill in with the new well-designed Ice Rink. The area will be tidied up in one go!

H.R.H. KING MUSH , WOOLSTON says...
1:46am Fri 19 Sep 08

Why not turn it into a massive Chav Centre?


You could have all major fast food outlets, amusement arcades, pound shops, benefit office with linked cash machines,methadone dispensers, tattoo parlours, off-licences,basebal
l bat shops, body-piercing stalls and much more.


Name - Chavopolis?

ex so'ton, Abingdon says...
7:41pm Fri 19 Sep 08

HRH KM: isn't that what happened to what was Plummers?

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