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Sat-navs send two ambulances wrong way to hospital

Sat-nav twice sends ambulance wrong way with patient on board Sat-nav twice sends ambulance wrong way with patient on board

A HAMPSHIRE man was twice taken the wrong way to hospital by ambulance crews, due to faulty sat navs.

Leslie Palmer, 79, endured a 45-minute trips both times when it should only have taken 20 minutes.

But separate ambulance crews in separate vehicles told his wife of 55 years, Jean, that they had to use sat nav as that was the rule.

Mr Palmer was taken from his home in Bishop's Waltham with an infection on June 3, with Mrs Palmer, 77, accompanying him to go to the Royal Hampshire County Hospital in Winchester, 11 miles away.

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Mrs Palmer explained that the first time she knew something was wrong was when the driver said they were in Charles Watts Way, Hedge End - the opposite direction - and now 19 miles away from the hospital.

''I heard the man inside tell the driver 'get on the motorway' but it was much longer than it should have been,'' she explained.

Mrs Palmer, a retired nanny, said that an ambulance was again called for her retired banker husband on the evening of June 5 and again the ambulance set off on a bizarre route at 6.50pm.

''We were soon going through lanes I had never seen before. We were on little roads no bigger than the ambulance and my husband's head was shaking around and we thought we were going to end up in a farm yard at any minute."

Mrs Palmer said that the ambulance eventually popped up out of the lanes at Fishers Pond at 7.30pm but still five miles from the hospital.

''Luckily my husband was not seriously ill, but I am concerned that if he had been more serious the delay could have made it much worse.

''It's an utter nonsense. Taxi drivers have to know the roads, why can't the ambulance driver know the roads - I cannot believe it.''

An ambulance spokeswoman said staff had the use of satellite navigation systems to travel to all locations and crews did have the option to override the system if they were familiar with the route.

She said the service covered a vast area and that some crews would have to use the system if they didn't know the area.

''It is likely that there was an anomaly with the settings (of the sat nav) which has been checked. We would like to confirm that this is an unusual occurrence and would like to reassure the public that we will do everything we can to avoid a similar occurrence.''

Comments(16)

Shame889 says...
10:55am Fri 12 Jun 09

So how did ambulance drivers manage before sat-navs? Mrs Palmer's quite right - they should know the roads. It's not like they've travelled hundreds of miles to some alien countryside. As for the statement that "crews have the option to override the system" wtf does that even mean? The system doesn't force them to go in any particular direction, does it? The ambulance won't grind to a halt if they deviate from the proposed route, will it? "Option to override" clearly means "they can drive wherever they like, as they're the driver, and sat-nav is just a glorified map". D'oh! I think I might opt to override the time-keeping facilities within my place of employment, and go to lunch early.

Society as a whole is too quick to become dependent on technology before it's matured.

Condor Man says...
11:58am Fri 12 Jun 09

ambulance drivers should do The Knowledge as London cab drivers do.

D.a.v.e says...
12:02pm Fri 12 Jun 09

So they start off 11 miles away from the hospital and then 18 miles from the hospital?
The driver has travelled 7 miles before he realises he is going in the wrong direction!
If he chose a career as a taxi-driver, he'll be a very rich man in no time.

Jerry Parsons says...
12:03pm Fri 12 Jun 09

The problem with that is due to cutbacks they would need to be 'fluent' with Winchster/Basingstok
e/Bournemouth/Portsm
outh & all the best ways to get to the little places in between.

Emm_Roids says...
12:04pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Condor Man wrote:
ambulance drivers should do The Knowledge as London cab drivers do.
Condor man, I have been in many london cabs and have net met one yet that has extensive knowledge of hampshire roads and hospital locations. I feel this would not rectify the problem!

Unlimited* Service says...
12:14pm Fri 12 Jun 09

The SatNav got them to the house. The truth is they failed to follow the instructions from the SatNav on the way back. Easy to blame technology.

Tobeblunt says...
12:15pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Condor Man wrote:
ambulance drivers should do The Knowledge as London cab drivers do.
Why, that would then make training twice as long. Local knowledge is good but a patient cannot be guaranteed a crew that comes directly from that area. They get the nearest available crew, now from bishops waltham that can be from either winchester, fareham, portsmouth or southampton.

Tobeblunt says...
1:09pm Fri 12 Jun 09

The minor roads from winchester to Bishops Waltham are narrow and country like.

brennothornhill says...
1:20pm Fri 12 Jun 09

another mistake on nhs, next headling - nurse can not go to work as name tag has incorrect spelling of name and will be 4 days until new one arrives...

Shame889 says...
2:25pm Fri 12 Jun 09

brennothornhill wrote:
another mistake on nhs, next headling - nurse can not go to work as name tag has incorrect spelling of name and will be 4 days until new one arrives...
Yeh cos that's the same

Treble9 says...
2:31pm Fri 12 Jun 09

We can cover a huge amount of miles in one shift and cannot be expected to know every single area we get sent to. My base is in Southampton yet I have been sent to jobs in Ringwood, New Milton, Lymington, Andover, Winchester, Fareham, Portsmouth and everywhere inbetween.....I don't know all of those areas so yes, sometimes I have to rely on the Sat Nav. It's impossible to learn every road in the whole of Hampshire. Get off our backs....just for once!!!!

Tobeblunt says...
2:44pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Treble9 wrote:
We can cover a huge amount of miles in one shift and cannot be expected to know every single area we get sent to. My base is in Southampton yet I have been sent to jobs in Ringwood, New Milton, Lymington, Andover, Winchester, Fareham, Portsmouth and everywhere inbetween.....I don't know all of those areas so yes, sometimes I have to rely on the Sat Nav. It's impossible to learn every road in the whole of Hampshire. Get off our backs....just for once!!!!
Well I for one congratulate you on your efforts considering the pressures your under on a daily basis, with late meals breaks, overruns, rude patients, timewasters, drunks, regulars etc etc. Im sure that if these people were an emergency case then a more local crew would have attended.

Unlimited* Service says...
2:52pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Shame889 wrote:
brennothornhill wrote: another mistake on nhs, next headling - nurse can not go to work as name tag has incorrect spelling of name and will be 4 days until new one arrives...
Yeh cos that's the same
There is an element of truth in this.

When the local hospitals get updated patient access systems those new name badges, which use RFID and chip to determine authenticity can only be used by the relevant person.

If a nurse loses the badge and has to wait days before s/he can use the system again patient care will suffer.

Bright Sparky says...
10:17pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Whilst drivers can't be expected to know every stret that they may get called to in an emergency in and around Hampshire, surely for God's sake they must know the way to the hospital!!!

Because of corporate laws, health and safety and the modern claim culture, people are losing the ability and moral fibre to be able to think, and make decisions for themselves whilst at work.


normansir says...
10:59pm Fri 12 Jun 09

Treble9 wrote:
We can cover a huge amount of miles in one shift and cannot be expected to know every single area we get sent to. My base is in Southampton yet I have been sent to jobs in Ringwood, New Milton, Lymington, Andover, Winchester, Fareham, Portsmouth and everywhere inbetween.....I don't know all of those areas so yes, sometimes I have to rely on the Sat Nav. It's impossible to learn every road in the whole of Hampshire. Get off our backs....just for once!!!!
I don't think any human being could know every road in Hampshire but surely it is not expecting too much to be able to navigate between the towns without the need for satnav. Whatever happened to common sense and using signposts?

none the wiser says...
1:59pm Mon 15 Jun 09

Quite frankly, it sounds like Mr and Mrs Palmer were wasting valuable emergency call out time anyway!

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