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Huge flood barrier being considered to protect Southampton

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AN enormous flood barrier could be built across Southampton Water to protect the city from a tidal surge.

It is just one of the schemes being considered in a new strategy to make Southampton flood-proof for the next 100 years.

The city’s environment boss last night described the report as one of the most important pieces of work for a generation.

Huge flood barrier being considered to protect Southampton

It comes as new Environment Agency (EA) figures show 50,000 properties in Hampshire and on the Isle of Wight – including more than 7,600 in Southampton – are at risk of flooding.

That figure is expected to soar over the next few decades with 25,000 new homes due to be built in Southampton alone by 2035 and renewed predictions sea levels will rise due to climate change.

Multi-million pound flood defences will be vital to protect the city and experts will study how authorities in Holland, one-third of which is under sea level, have secured its coast.

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This could even include replicating the Maeslant storm surge barrier that protects Rotterdam, the largest port in the world.

The retractable gates span 360 metres – nearly as long as the Eiffel Tower – across a channel at the mouth of the port and close when sea levels surge to three metres above normal levels.

EA southern region boss James Humphrys said Southampton will need similar significant investment in new flood defences.

“In Southampton the docks, although not built as a flood defence, are defending the city,” he said.

“In the longer run though, assuming that sea levels rise, those quaysides will not be high enough.

“There needs to be a plan to either build higher defences or to raise the land close to the shore.”

Mr Humphrys said that he could envisage mammoth retractable floodgates stretching across the Solent or Southampton Water.

Huge flood barrier being considered to protect Southampton

“We’re not talking about developing that sort of thing in my lifetime, it is a much longer term view, but it would certainly be looked at in the strategy,” he said.

Some homes considered too expensive to protect might have to be sacrificed.

However, Councillor Matt Dean, Cabinet member for environment, said the policy of the newly formed Southampton Flood Risk Management Group – the EA, city council, Southern Water and port bosses ABP – would be to save homes wherever possible.

The group’s report, to be published in early 2011, will also outline who is responsible for funding the multi-million pound infrastructure.

Comments(29)

southy says...
1:39pm Wed 24 Jun 09

"" close when sea levels surge to three metres above normal levels.""
umm when was the last time this part off the world had a 3 meter surge from the sea. you be lucky to see half meter surge, our main problem with flooding is because the docks hold the water back, excess rain water cant drain off into the river, or theres a lot off rain water coming down river on a high spring tides and gets held back by the rising tide. what the EA is not doing to is taking into account that tide range between low water and high water is getting less each year by 1mm. this is all due to the fack that the moon is moving away from the earth at a rate off 2cm a year.

teh says...
1:40pm Wed 24 Jun 09

As my security word says, this project and climate change is "very FAIL".

Nothing to say says...
1:44pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Climate Change = myth
Flood Defences = not required
City's Environment Boss = desperately trying to justify his high salary

Jparcoeur says...
1:47pm Wed 24 Jun 09

WOW

stay local says...
2:04pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Portsmouth is only 1.5mtrs above sea level but no one want to save that!!!

Derek of Dibden Purlieu says...
2:07pm Wed 24 Jun 09

"That figure is expected to SORE over the next few decades "

It'll probably hurt whenever the bill comes in.

Nothing to say says...
2:17pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Is there any proof that sea levels in and around Southampton have risen in the last 20 years?

(without confusing the effect of natural sea erosion on the coast)

Family Man says...
3:12pm Wed 24 Jun 09

I had heard that should Southampton flood, it would £1.5bn worth of improvements, but I think it was someone from Portsmouth who told me...

BrixtonSaint says...
3:37pm Wed 24 Jun 09

comments scream of naivety. If you think water levels aren't on the rise think again. As the quote says, "“We’re not talking about developing that sort of thing in my lifetime, it is a much longer term view". Your young kids'll certainly know about it though.

goard says...
3:42pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Don't think do. 1 billion will be spent on speculation and advice from 'experts'. Even if the foundations were constructed then if need be barriers can be put in place - cut out the middle man. He who drags his heels get nothing done!

goard

Bartonian says...
4:53pm Wed 24 Jun 09

For a moment, I thought it was April the 1st, but it wasn't. It is just another crackpot scheme that will never happen.

Jim Smyth says...
5:04pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Nothing to say wrote:
Climate Change = myth
Flood Defences = not required
City's Environment Boss = desperately trying to justify his high salary
Climate change is not a myth. You'd have to be a fool to think that. Whether it's caused by mankind is up for debate, but make no mistake, the climate IS changing. You haven't noticed the actual change in weather over the last few decades, then, I take it?

gary langdon says...
5:16pm Wed 24 Jun 09

what a load of old cobblers. build an ice rink instead, above sea level of course.

Refresh says...
6:10pm Wed 24 Jun 09

CAn it stop the immigrants coming in too?

Peter Stewart says...
6:15pm Wed 24 Jun 09

The Land is Falling

They say the sea is rising but I tell you, the land is sinking under the weight of an ever increasing population.

As for climate change! I remember in the early 1970s when it was announced we were at the dawn of a mini ice age which would see us skating on the Thames by the year 2000!

10 points for guessing what vested interests changed our mini ice age into (wait for it…) global warming! Answer: Chernobyl, the world’s worst nuclear power marketing disaster.

After Chernobyl, their problem was how to make the unloved and unwanted nuclear power loved and wanted again (well…at least wanted).

Their solution: Demonize fossil fuels. Shove the blame onto CO2. Make the mythical GREENHOUSE EFFECT a grim reality. Enter GLOBAL WARMING.

But get this: They can’t even predict the weather one day in advance!

southy says...
6:28pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Jim Smyth wrote:
Nothing to say wrote:
Climate Change = myth
Flood Defences = not required
City's Environment Boss = desperately trying to justify his high salary
Climate change is not a myth. You'd have to be a fool to think that. Whether it's caused by mankind is up for debate, but make no mistake, the climate IS changing. You haven't noticed the actual change in weather over the last few decades, then, I take it?
well the last few years, the weather been returning to what it was like in early 60's. the earth is now cooling down again, the english channel temp has drop. and we never even got any where near the sort off temp that was about during the roman era. and i will not be surprize to see a few winters like the ones we had between 61 to 68

Andy Locks Heath says...
7:36pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Peter Stewart wrote:
The Land is Falling

They say the sea is rising but I tell you, the land is sinking under the weight of an ever increasing population.

As for climate change! I remember in the early 1970s when it was announced we were at the dawn of a mini ice age which would see us skating on the Thames by the year 2000!

10 points for guessing what vested interests changed our mini ice age into (wait for it…) global warming! Answer: Chernobyl, the world’s worst nuclear power marketing disaster.

After Chernobyl, their problem was how to make the unloved and unwanted nuclear power loved and wanted again (well…at least wanted).

Their solution: Demonize fossil fuels. Shove the blame onto CO2. Make the mythical GREENHOUSE EFFECT a grim reality. Enter GLOBAL WARMING.

But get this: They can’t even predict the weather one day in advance!
Ah it's "them" again is it Peter? One minute they are meeting in secret to pretend there's an oil crisis, then they pretend there's global warming to get us to like nuclear power. (Why just nuclear power - why not worry about Bhopal as well? Flixborough? Silvertown? ) They must be very busy meeting in secret because "they" have also at various times conspired to bring Saints FC down, engineer a world banking crisis destroy the labour party, invent evolution, and change Marathon to Snickers. If only we knew who they were eh, conspiracy theorists? Well let's just say what does Fred Dineage get up to between the hours of 21:00 and 20:00 the next day? QED. It's him.

marg says...
8:44pm Wed 24 Jun 09

so where would it go across? Dibden Bay?

Jim Smyth says...
9:13pm Wed 24 Jun 09

southy wrote:
Jim Smyth wrote:
Nothing to say wrote:
Climate Change = myth
Flood Defences = not required
City's Environment Boss = desperately trying to justify his high salary
Climate change is not a myth. You'd have to be a fool to think that. Whether it's caused by mankind is up for debate, but make no mistake, the climate IS changing. You haven't noticed the actual change in weather over the last few decades, then, I take it?
well the last few years, the weather been returning to what it was like in early 60's. the earth is now cooling down again, the english channel temp has drop. and we never even got any where near the sort off temp that was about during the roman era. and i will not be surprize to see a few winters like the ones we had between 61 to 68
You just described climate change. Thanks

Tony S says...
9:22pm Wed 24 Jun 09

Some councilors want an eco committee to decided to spend a heap of cash defending the city that never floods. That has the Isle of Wight plonked infront to spread the tides so they last three times as long. Two slow rivers with huge flood planes. It will keep them in rich alllowances till 2011 at least! waste a few millions.

chunkybutt says...
10:23pm Wed 24 Jun 09

what a waste of money!
there is no one and nothing in this town worth saving, and the sooner its under water the better.

Linesman says...
9:13am Thu 25 Jun 09

stay local wrote:
Portsmouth is only 1.5mtrs above sea level but no one want to save that!!!
And how high above sea level do you think the de vere hotel and below bar are?

On thing bonus is that the flood barrier would hamper the arrival and departure of container ships, so ABP can scrap their ideas for a container port in Dibden Bay!


Engineer says...
9:36am Thu 25 Jun 09

Portsmouth is on an Island and is far more difficult to defend.
I don't know of any islands that have had a massive wall built around it to protect it. Also the risks of the wall being breached would result in would mean the whole of Portsmouth would quickly flood.

Despite this, PCC do have limited plans for flood protection.

Southampton however is in a much better location to protect against flooding, since it is in an estuary.

The proposal for Southampton looks very similar to the Maeslant barrier near Rotterdam, which has been operating for many decades.
It only closes when there is a risk of flooding. So most of the time it remains open for shipping to pass.

Engineer says...
9:52am Thu 25 Jun 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
"That figure is expected to SORE over the next few decades "

It'll probably hurt whenever the bill comes in.
The water would probably hurt more.

Mass migration and economic damage are quite expensive things to handle.

For Portsmouth, it would mean relocating +200,000 people and associated commercial activity.
That would also increase land prices and reduce the land available.

Engineer says...
11:55am Thu 25 Jun 09

National Oceanography Centre, Southampton, points out that long term sea level rise will be higher than IPPC predictions:

http://www.noc.soton
.ac.uk/index.php?ful
l=1

southy says...
1:12pm Thu 25 Jun 09

Tony S wrote:
Some councilors want an eco committee to decided to spend a heap of cash defending the city that never floods. That has the Isle of Wight plonked infront to spread the tides so they last three times as long. Two slow rivers with huge flood planes. It will keep them in rich alllowances till 2011 at least! waste a few millions.
very close tony s, the island do spread the tide, but thats not the reason why we get a double high water, what causes that is the bounce back from the narrowing off the english channel, bit like in tin bath when you left one end you get a swell one end but you also get one in the middle, has for slow rivers close again the itchen is slow,(3 knots) but the test is not it has a natural 8 knots run above the tidal limits.

southy says...
2:08pm Thu 25 Jun 09

Engineer wrote:
National Oceanography Centre, Southampton, points out that long term sea level rise will be higher than IPPC predictions:

http://www.noc.soton

.ac.uk/index.php?ful

l=1
i find that funny really when the oceanography HQ in somerset, are saying what snow and ice is left in the world would only put mm on sea level if it was to all melt. what would make the sea level rise would be seas that are to warm, that warm you could spend hours swimming a round the north pole, but is unlikey to happen it would only be the sea surface that would warm up the first few feet the rest would be cold and get colder still the deeper you go, sun light only penetrate 70 feet in the clearest off waters. and if this top layer of water did warm up enough to expand then it would only be about 1 cm, for sea levels to rise has much has they say the whole body off the world water would need to be close to boiling point, whitch is not going to happen, unless the sun has expanded that much we are no longer in the safe zone around the sun.

Trigger16 says...
7:39am Fri 26 Jun 09

Jim Smyth wrote:
southy wrote:
Jim Smyth wrote:
Nothing to say wrote: Climate Change = myth Flood Defences = not required City's Environment Boss = desperately trying to justify his high salary
Climate change is not a myth. You'd have to be a fool to think that. Whether it's caused by mankind is up for debate, but make no mistake, the climate IS changing. You haven't noticed the actual change in weather over the last few decades, then, I take it?
well the last few years, the weather been returning to what it was like in early 60's. the earth is now cooling down again, the english channel temp has drop. and we never even got any where near the sort off temp that was about during the roman era. and i will not be surprize to see a few winters like the ones we had between 61 to 68
You just described climate change. Thanks
Haha climate change is not man made its just shifts in weather like they have always had even in the days of the dinosours, or was that because of all their exhaust emitting cars and factories......

josh_drakester says...
12:02am Wed 15 Jul 09

Ok then yes i may live in southampton, but what about Portsmouth, i thought it was at more a threat to flooding and rising sea levels compared to soton as Portsmouth is almost totally surround by water!

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