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Cat mauled to death by dogs


THE hunt is on for the owner of a pack of dogs who viciously mauled a cat to death as it sat in its front garden.

Animal lover Pauline Foster watched in horror as three large dogs pounced on her beloved cat, Sencimillia, killing her within seconds.

The 50-year-old, of Kingsclere Avenue, fought in vain to get the dogs to let go of her tortoiseshell cat but they proved too strong and continued their attack.

Despite desperate pleas for help to neighbours who came out and saw the traumatic attack on the grass outside the front of her home, she was left to tackle the dogs alone.

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Help finally came when police arrived just before 12.30pm. They were able to catch the dogs and took them to Southampton City Council’s Warren Avenue Kennels, where they will stay until the owners are found.

Officers are now investigating the attack and are appealing for the owners of the dogs, two brown and one white and believed to be Bull Mastiffs, to come forward.

Fighting back the tears, Pauline, who had Sencimillia for five years, said: “It is one of the most horrific things I have ever seen and those images will haunt me for the rest of my life. I will never be able to forget it.

“I was just in complete shock. I ran over to the dogs screaming and tried to drag them away from my cat but they just wouldn’t let her go.

They were just ripping her apart. It was awful.

“I was screaming for someone to help. Crowds of people came out from their homes but they all just stood there.

“I’ve got three other cats and I’m worried that the same will happen to them. I love my cats and Sencimillia was the most loving of them all.

“I just hope that whoever owns these dogs are caught because they don’t deserve to have dogs. I have seen the dogs around the estate before so they must live near by.”

Anyone with any information about the owners of the dogs or who saw what happened should contact Bitterne police station on 0845 045 45 45.



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greystonesben, Fareham says...
10:11am Mon 6 Jul 09

Thats appauling that these dogs were left to roam free. I know it's 'what if's' but it could have been a very different situation. Like a toddler playing in it's front garden.

Obviously the owner has little care or control over his/her dogs and my heart goes out to this lady having had to watch her cat go through that. Cant believe that people stood around watching without helping. You can understand people not wanting to get hurt though and if these dogs were as vicious as they sound then that maybe why. I would have helped had I been there and probably been bitten but as many cat owners will tell you, they would do almost anything for their cats!

Poor cat, it must have been so scary for it.

RownhamsResident, Southampton says...
10:15am Mon 6 Jul 09

Can you blame the neighbours for not stepping in? The dogs could have turned on one of them and we could have ended up with more serius injuries. I hope they catch the dog owners and prosecute

Bartonian, Chandler's Ford says...
10:17am Mon 6 Jul 09

These are disgusting dogs. Anyone who owns one of these has something seriously wrong with them.

D'Arcy Sarto, Hythe says...
10:25am Mon 6 Jul 09

No doubt it will be the cat owners fault for letting her cat go near the dogs without asking the owner of the dogs first? ;-)

I really feel for this woman, what an awful thing to witness, it doesn't bear thinking about if it had been a young child in that garden!

Huffybear, Southampton says...
10:25am Mon 6 Jul 09

What a horrible way to die, if it was my cat I wouldn't ever forget it, it would haunt me forever. I'd like to give the dog owner a good kicking myself and b*gger the consequences, Dogs aren't automatically made like this, they're raised to be like it. I hope the owner gets a lifetime of bad luck and has a horrible end him/herself.

northamsoul, isle of wight says...
10:38am Mon 6 Jul 09

that is awful...i dearly feel for you and the owners should be seriuosly punished..

northamsoul, isle of wight says...
10:38am Mon 6 Jul 09

that is awful...i dearly feel for you and the owners should be seriuosly punished..

BenJovi, Patcham says...
10:41am Mon 6 Jul 09

Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.

hulla baloo, Turkey says...
10:42am Mon 6 Jul 09

What sort of name is Sencimillia?

joybug82, Weston, Southampton says...
11:07am Mon 6 Jul 09

I feel really really sorry for this lady, I have 2 cats of my own and I moved to Weston just over a week ago my black cat has gone missing and he is only 9 months old, he is my pride and joy and some people might say get over it, it is only a cat but unless you have animals you won't understand they become part of you family and they are your life, so when you loose a pet especially in these horrific circumstances, its like loosing a child and it breaks your heart. I hope i find my cat and get mine back but unfortunatley for this lady she has lost apart of her life and for the people that owned the dogs need to be put down or put away at least for murder, its cruel disgusting and how anyone who lets their dogs do that think its right then think again my friends.

Shoong, Winchester says...
11:13am Mon 6 Jul 09

The worrying thing is that the *majority* of dogs I see now are the dangerous sort, especially pit bulls. This type of dog if raised correctly can be harmless but when dogs get together the natural pack mentality can kick in & there's nothing to stop them. Many teenagers are now using these types of dogs as weapons, but once you've pulled the trigger it's too late.

bullarboy, bitterne says...
11:27am Mon 6 Jul 09

BenJovi wrote:
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.

Ken Hutchinson, Southampton says...
11:41am Mon 6 Jul 09

It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.

Huffybear, Southampton says...
11:41am Mon 6 Jul 09

bullarboy wrote:
BenJovi wrote:
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.

Huffybear, Southampton says...
11:43am Mon 6 Jul 09

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
Ken, these were 3 large dogs, so essentially a pack.

bullarboy, bitterne says...
11:48am Mon 6 Jul 09

Huffybear wrote:
bullarboy wrote:
BenJovi wrote: Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.
Huffybear - I totally do feel for this poor woman - my point was aimed at Benjovi who wanted owners charged with murder for dog crime - which just isn't practical or enforceable due to the fact that animals attack and chase each other. As for intelligence - Are you honestly saying that a domestic dog, when placed in front of a domestic cat wouldn't chase it, attack it or maul it? - because if you are you are living in cloud cuckoo land!!

freemantlegirl2, Southampton says...
11:49am Mon 6 Jul 09

Huffybear wrote:
Ken Hutchinson wrote:
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
Ken, these were 3 large dogs, so essentially a pack.
and what if there had been a small child in the garden???? dogs shouldn't be allowed to stray, however big they are. They're a danger to themselves and others. Bring back a payable dog licence. Will stop all these 'chavs' buying Staffys and letting them run riot everywhere too! my dog was attacked by a Staffy whose owner said he was 'playing' as he clamped his jaws roudn my dog's neck... hmmmmm!

Sympathies to the cat's owner, how utterly horrible :(

cat lover, southampton says...
11:53am Mon 6 Jul 09

I FEEL FOR THIS POOR WOMAN I HAVE CATS THEY ARE MY LIFE I WOULD PROTECT THEM TO THE END OF THE EARTH I WOULD OF THROWN WATER OVER THE DOGS OR SET A HOSE ON THEM THEY SHOULD BE PUT DOWN ONCE THEY'VE TASTED BLOOD THERE IS NO STOPPING THEM IT COULD BE A YOUNG CHILD NEXT TIME ALSO THEY SHOULD PROSECUTE THE OWNERS FOR NEGLECTING THEIR RESPONSIBLITY AS DOG OWNERS

churchnill, Eastleigh says...
12:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09

So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!

crashley, southampton says...
12:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09

hulla baloo wrote:
What sort of name is Sencimillia?
Isn't this name used as another name for marijuana?? Begs the question why she named her cat after a drug!!

greystonesben, Fareham says...
12:06pm Mon 6 Jul 09

bullarboy wrote:
BenJovi wrote: Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
While I agree with the sentiments that the owners although responsible cannot be punished as severly as BenJovi is implying, I do think that people who cannot and do not control their dogs should be punished. Fined heavily and an order levied never allowing these people to own pets again is what I deem to be appropriate.

But sorry Bullarboy, is maybe nature for a wild dog to chase a wild cat, but many a house hold do have both cats and dogs as pets who get along fine. And in built up areas and estates, it is not uncommon for people with dogs to live very close to people with Cats so to imply that all dogs who see a cat go mental and chase it is wrong because more often than not, dogs have seen and interacted with cats before.

The issue here is that the dogs were not controlled, they have obviously been brought up to be violent dogs and were let loose without supervision. It could have been a small child in that garden with a brightly coloured top on which the dogs thought was a threat. They would have done the same thing.

The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought.

Derek of Dibden Purlieu, Hampshire says...
12:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09

You can get the undivided attention of any fighting dog with the use of a garden fork in the ribs.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
12:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09

churchnill wrote:
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
Spot the person who doesnt like cats.

Put your own indifferences aside and ask yourself the following questions:

1) When was the last time you saw a gang of youths with a vicious cat on the end of a lead baining for blood?

2) When was the last time you saw a cat out and about without supervision and wondered what it was doing? Where it's owner was and if it is indeed a threat to anyone?

3) When was the last time you heard about or even saw a fatality or even serious injury resulting from a cat attack?

And as 'Domesticated' cats, they are just that, like any 'domesticated' dogs. Yes from time to time they may catch birds, but generally speaking the bird is not someone elses pet, and although that doesnt make it right it is justified in the sense that cats are a lot more independent than most other pets and quite often left to their own free accord to go out and about.

Dogs are not afforded the same luxury normally, because if left untrained and unnurtured can become dangerous and when dangerous, have the ability to seriously mame and even kill Humans. This is not something cats are capable of.

Ergo, if a dog attacks something, be it a cat, mouse, rabbit or bird there could be training issues and should definitely be signs of danger shown to the owners of what their pooch is capable of.

I am a cat owner yes, but I am also a big lover of dogs so am not biased just because 'next doors cat may sometimes poo on my lawn'.

DinkDankDoo, Lordswood says...
12:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Only last month, I watched a cat pounce on a bird and the bird didnt recover. In fact the bird lay in the cat owners street for a week.

I know an old lady who swallowed a fly etc etc!

It cant be nice to witness something like this but dog do not like cats END OF!

Ken Hutchinson, Southampton says...
12:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09

"The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought."

No it isn't. Dogs very often chase cats, who in turn stalk everything from birds to butterflies.
The issue here is with the owners. However, I am yet to see the evidence that dogs who chase/attack cats automatically progress to consuming young children....stop being so hysterical.
I feel sorry for the woman and the cat,but nature dictates that I shan't be giving it another thought.....

SW: deny-fish......
bl00dy cats again!

Georgem, Southampton says...
12:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
Poor woman, a sad story. But as Ken said, cats and dogs have historically not got on well. In turn, this cat probably savaged it's fair share of birds and mice, without any reprisal.

What's next? People calling for tigers to be banned after seeing them take down antelope on some wildlife programme?

cat lover, southampton says...
12:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09

DOGS SHOULD BE PROPERLY TRAINED AND KEPT INDOORS OR ON A LEAD NOT ALLOWED TO ROAM FREE THEY CAN AND WILL KILL OR SERIOUSLY MAIM HUMAN /ANIMAL

bird lover, says...
12:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09

CATS SHOULD BE PROPERLY TRAINED AND KEPT INDOORS OR N A LEAD NOT ALLOWED TO ROAM FREE THEY CAN AND WILL KILL OR SERIOUSLY MAIM BIRD/RODENT

mecharacter, southampton says...
1:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I AM SO INCENSED BY THIS ARTICLE - I CANNOT BEGIN TO KNOW HOW THIS LADY IS FEELING. IF IT WERE ME I WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DEVESTATED AND IF I EVER FOUND THE OWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WILD DOGS I WOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS – YES I AM ANOTHER CAT OWNER AND PROUD OF IT!!!

THE ISSUE HERE IS SIMPLE, THIS CAT WAS SAT IN ITS OWN GARDEN, MINDING ITS OWN BUSINESS NO DOUBT HAVING A PLEASANT LAZY DAY. THEN ALONG COME A PACK OF THREE WILD LARGE DOGS WHO SOME IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOT OF AN OWNER IS HAPPY TO LET ROAM FREE ! - WHY THE HELL SOMEONE WOULD WANT THREE LARGE BULL MASTIFF’S BEATS IN A FAMILY HOME IN WESTON BEATS ME. THESE TYPE OF DOGS WERE THE HUNTING AND KILLING MACHINES OF THE GENTRY IN OLDEN DAYS.

WORDS FAIL ME AS TO THE PENALTY THE OWNER SHOULD FACE OR SUFFER ! - NO AMOUNT OF PUNISHMENT WILL MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OR TORMENT THIS LADY IS SUFFERING.

old woman lover, says...
1:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09

cat lover
mecharacter

Same person

Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
1:29pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Mrs Slocombes **** also died this week.

soton1980, Southampton/Winchester/Fareham says...
1:38pm Mon 6 Jul 09

churchnill wrote:
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then?

It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour.

This is a disgusting incident. The dogs should be put down IMMEDIATELY!

bullarboy, bitterne says...
1:49pm Mon 6 Jul 09

soton1980 wrote:
churchnill wrote: So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then? It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour. This is a disgusting incident. The dogs should be put down IMMEDIATELY!
Boll*x - It wasn't a small child or toddler tho was it? How can you generalise and say that because they killed a cat they will probably go on to kill a child? - you can't!- none of us can. It's like saying someone who smokes weed will probably go on to do Heroin - You can't come up with crap like this - By the way Im not a dog-owner - just a realist!

queenb, hedge end says...
1:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I have read these posts and although some are just stupid some do think of the poor lady who saw the most horrid of sights and not just it was her cat.
I am a cat owner as well as a dog owner and have been for forty years. They can live happily together along with my rabbits, birds and fish so there is no reason if brought up and trained the right way a dog should attack unless they are scared, (I dont think a sleeping cat is that scarey). My dog is a huge mountain dog and she is never out without us and never off a lead in public. As the owner its my job to make sure not only is she safe but everyone else near her, animal or human.
This acticle should make us all think about neighbours or friends that are not as sensible about the way they are with their animals and if we should sit back and let it happen, if it was their kids they were treating wrong we would soon report them so why not report bad pet owners before things like this can happen.
My heart goes out to you Pauline, please remember not all dogs are like those.

bullarboy, bitterne says...
1:53pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Rudd Gillett wrote:
Mrs Slocombes **** also died this week.
Mrs Slocombes p***y was very old tho Rudd, and had probably lived an action-packed life!!

Georgem, Southampton says...
1:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09

soton1980 wrote:
churchnill wrote:
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then?

It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour.

This is a disgusting incident. The dogs should be put down IMMEDIATELY!
How do you make that fantastic leap there? Dog killing cat is "no doubt" the first step toward killing children? Utter nonsense. There's no reason at all to suppose that. The relationship between cats and dogs is well-known. If what you say is true, if this is "undoubtedly" the first step, then there must be massive amounts of documented cases of dogs attacking cats, and then graduating to babies. Where?

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09

DinkDankDoo wrote:
Only last month, I watched a cat pounce on a bird and the bird didnt recover. In fact the bird lay in the cat owners street for a week. I know an old lady who swallowed a fly etc etc! It cant be nice to witness something like this but dog do not like cats END OF!
Generalisation there a bit dont you think?

My ex has a cat and a dog as pets who live together fine. There by using your definitions, all cats and dogs get along fine.

There are some dogs who do not like cats yes, as there are some which do like them. The issue is that dogs dont roam free. Cats generally do.

You accept as an (outdoor) cat owner that it roams free so is liable to possibly (god forbid) be run over or get into scraps with other local cats, as you expect it to catch birds etc. It is part and parcel of owning a cat. You do not expect it to be killed by someones pet dog in your own front garden! Nor do you expect it to kill other pets.

The arguement that cat owners are fine with their cats killing other creatures (Mice / Birds / Spiders / Butterflys / Old Ladies etc) doesnt wash im afraid as that is the essence of a cat. They are wild creatures that they catch and it is expected of them to do so. You dont buy or keep a dog EXPECTING them to mame and kill animals because you train dogs, being (normally) indoor pets to not kill and mame things (for your own safety as well as others). There is the difference.

closey, Merryoak says...
2:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Huffybear wrote:
bullarboy wrote:
BenJovi wrote:
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.
It was nature before humans decided they could "own" another living creature, and domesticated dogs and cats. So really, it's humanity at fault. What's with the rhetorical "do you have a pet? do you know how this woman feels?" stuff, too? Pets are pets. Pets die. Apportioning blame won't change that. So you put the dogs down. Now that's 2 people who have lost pets. Do they cancel each other out, then? I like how you've managed to paint a picture of the owners as subhuman scum, despite not knowing anything about them. Bigoted much? I at least agree with your last sentence, although I suspect we had different sets of humans in mind

annoyed01, Southampton says...
2:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09

What a bunch of ignorant small minded people you are. Yes this was a terrible thing and I feel for the cats owner but how do you get from cat to kiddie killer the majority of poster should be put down

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09

closey wrote:
I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, then? Brilliant

Shoong, Winchester says...
2:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09

churchnill wrote:
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
A really very stupid, ill thought out comment.
Cats are mainly independent animals & although it could be argued the dogs were following instincts, any dog should be controlled whether it be at home contained in a garden or on a lead when walking. You can't really do the same with a cat.

A laughable statement, commenting on something you obviously know nothing about.

bullarboy, bitterne says...
2:09pm Mon 6 Jul 09

closey wrote:
I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
I suspect you're talking crap as well. - 'Nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before' - then they waited until it atacked your cat to have it put down? - What utter nonsense - you are an imbecile!

lasoton, Southampton says...
2:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09

How awful! I feel so sorry for this lady and of course the cat :-(

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09

What really troubles me here is the assumption that there is always someone to blame for everything that happens, and that everyone is screaming and baying for the blood of the owners. Nothing like the anonymity of the Internet to bring out the self-righteous savage in us, eh.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:25pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
"The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought." No it isn't. Dogs very often chase cats, who in turn stalk everything from birds to butterflies. The issue here is with the owners. However, I am yet to see the evidence that dogs who chase/attack cats automatically progress to consuming young children....stop being so hysterical. I feel sorry for the woman and the cat,but nature dictates that I shan't be giving it another thought..... SW: deny-fish...... bl00dy cats again!
It's not that dogs who attack cats progress to maming and killing babies. To suggest that is absurd but I think you misunderstood the point Soton1980 may have been trying to make.

It 'could' have been a baby in that garden. And before you come back with your predictable "it could have been x, y and z but it wasnt" it is not as if we havent seen so many cases where dogs have attacked children is it?

Dogs this savage (attacking a sleeping cat is savage) should never be left alone. Some dogs are averse to bright colours. My aunties dog does not like bright yellow jackets as it reminds him of the postman who he didnt like. So if you wear a yellow item of clothing, he gets angry. Maybe extreme but what if there was a kid in that garden and the dogs have an aversion to kids (as some dogs do) or the kid was wearing a brightly coloured top which the dog didnt like. It would have made no difference that it was a Kid rather than a cat and it would have done the same thing.

I know its all if's and buts, but an uncontrolled dog which attacks and kills a cat (regardless of whether or not cartoons seem to lead everyone to think dogs automatically hate cats) is not well trained and untrained dogs are unpredictable so therefore, could attack people.

queenb, hedge end says...
2:28pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
What really troubles me here is the assumption that there is always someone to blame for everything that happens, and that everyone is screaming and baying for the blood of the owners. Nothing like the anonymity of the Internet to bring out the self-righteous savage in us, eh.

We are not all out for blood at all, most are naturally upset by this article.
There is a blame as dogs are not by law meant to be out on the streets without a lead so can we remember there is a very upset lady out there that could be reading these comments too.

bemused26, southampton says...
2:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I feel so sorry for this woman. I think I'd have had a heart attack if I'd seen that happening to my cat. I must point out though- like not all dogs are cat haters, not all cats kill birds either. My cat likes to sit by the bird feeder, just watching. The birds are not even scared of him anymore and get seed off the floor right next to him. I hope he doesn't pounce one day now I've said that! Touch wood....
Those dogs shouldn't have been out roaming the streets really, alone without their owners. Is it not illegal to have mastiffs and certain other dogs out in public and not on a lead? I thought it was...

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:34pm Mon 6 Jul 09

greystonesben wrote:
Ken Hutchinson wrote:
"The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought." No it isn't. Dogs very often chase cats, who in turn stalk everything from birds to butterflies. The issue here is with the owners. However, I am yet to see the evidence that dogs who chase/attack cats automatically progress to consuming young children....stop being so hysterical. I feel sorry for the woman and the cat,but nature dictates that I shan't be giving it another thought..... SW: deny-fish...... bl00dy cats again!
It's not that dogs who attack cats progress to maming and killing babies. To suggest that is absurd but I think you misunderstood the point Soton1980 may have been trying to make.

It 'could' have been a baby in that garden. And before you come back with your predictable "it could have been x, y and z but it wasnt" it is not as if we havent seen so many cases where dogs have attacked children is it?

Dogs this savage (attacking a sleeping cat is savage) should never be left alone. Some dogs are averse to bright colours. My aunties dog does not like bright yellow jackets as it reminds him of the postman who he didnt like. So if you wear a yellow item of clothing, he gets angry. Maybe extreme but what if there was a kid in that garden and the dogs have an aversion to kids (as some dogs do) or the kid was wearing a brightly coloured top which the dog didnt like. It would have made no difference that it was a Kid rather than a cat and it would have done the same thing.

I know its all if's and buts, but an uncontrolled dog which attacks and kills a cat (regardless of whether or not cartoons seem to lead everyone to think dogs automatically hate cats) is not well trained and untrained dogs are unpredictable so therefore, could attack people.
I don't think there's enough ambiguity in soton1980's post for anybody to misunderstand it:

It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour.


Seems pretty straightforward to me.

Georgem, Southampton says...
2:35pm Mon 6 Jul 09

queenb wrote:
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
What really troubles me here is the assumption that there is always someone to blame for everything that happens, and that everyone is screaming and baying for the blood of the owners. Nothing like the anonymity of the Internet to bring out the self-righteous savage in us, eh.

We are not all out for blood at all, most are naturally upset by this article.
There is a blame as dogs are not by law meant to be out on the streets without a lead so can we remember there is a very upset lady out there that could be reading these comments too.
Ah, the old "she might be reading the comments" cop-out. Not buying it.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09

annoyed01 wrote:
What a bunch of ignorant small minded people you are. Yes this was a terrible thing and I feel for the cats owner but how do you get from cat to kiddie killer the majority of poster should be put down
I dont think that people are saying that the dogs will now go and kill people, only that there is the potential there for them to do so and that this (albeit having a tragic outcome) could have been very different had it been a kid that the dogs set upon.

No one will know why the dogs set upon the cats, we do not know if these dogs were gnarled up about something and would have attacked anything or if they hate cats (for all intents and purpose, these dogs may live with a cat(s) and be fine with them normally) and thats why it happened.

What you need to consider, is that as most of us are saying, it is not 'normal' behaviour for a dog to kill or attack something. Generally because they are trained not to do so.

So if a dog has attacked something and killed it, its the fact that it has done this that is wrong. It shows it has not been trained and does not know the difference between right and wrong.

Now, ask yourself, would you be comfortable leaving your kid in a pram in the garden with these dogs? Of course the answer is no, unless you are some kind of weirdo, but instead of seeing the point a few people are trying to make, you jump on their assumptions and critises them for maybe not being clear in their wording as if you are some kind of internet warrior.

closey, Merryoak says...
2:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09

bullarboy wrote:
closey wrote: I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
I suspect you're talking crap as well. - 'Nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before' - then they waited until it atacked your cat to have it put down? - What utter nonsense - you are an imbecile!
Talking crap??? Do you think that I would write a comment like this if it hadn't happened, and you've got the cheek to call me an imbecile!

Kelsie, Southampton says...
2:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.

queenb, hedge end says...
2:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09

typical echo reader wrote:
I think the dogs should be slaughtered, the owners forced to eat them, then they themselves are put down, and their entire family sterilized and fined infinity billion pounds. Then all dogs should be made illegal and an ice rink built in their place, then everybody in Millbrook should be exterminated. Also, more policemen for free
and thats a helpful comment how......
theres a very strong chance the dogs will be put to sleep as they have the taste of blood now, but the rest is just sick

closey, Merryoak says...
2:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Georgem wrote:
closey wrote: I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, then? Brilliant
no, thats not the case at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I was just putting mine across.

DinkDankDoo, Lordswood says...
2:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Of course cats do not bite or shyte in innocent people's gardens where children play. I wish every animal was as nice as all of your cats because everyone of them does no harm anywhere!

Get a grip cat lovers, they can be as bad as any other animal. I bet your kids can do no wrong either can they!!!

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:57pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Kelsie wrote:
I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.
Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong.

The owners of these dogs have obviously not taken the time and effort to do what you have with your dog and train it. They cant even be bothered to properly look after them which is shown in the fact that they were not supervised and were roaming the streets free! Let alone it appears that they havent even notified the police their dogs are missing!!!

Which I imagine is the main difference between running up to a cat and sniffing it / standing it's ground and running up to a cat and killing it.

This is my point about unpredicability and the fact that an animal like this 'could' quite easily have attacked a child rather than it being a cat. I know it didnt attack a child (thank god) but to the few posters who obviously dont care too much for cats, that have stated they do not think these dogs would attack a child and they only did it because it was a cat are quite simply not thinking about what they type.

thesaint, southampton says...
3:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09

i expect the dogs were owned by the local thickos and losers around that estate with their sad lifestyle.

Kelsie, Southampton says...
3:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09

greystonesben wrote:
Kelsie wrote: I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.
Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong. The owners of these dogs have obviously not taken the time and effort to do what you have with your dog and train it. They cant even be bothered to properly look after them which is shown in the fact that they were not supervised and were roaming the streets free! Let alone it appears that they havent even notified the police their dogs are missing!!! Which I imagine is the main difference between running up to a cat and sniffing it / standing it's ground and running up to a cat and killing it. This is my point about unpredicability and the fact that an animal like this 'could' quite easily have attacked a child rather than it being a cat. I know it didnt attack a child (thank god) but to the few posters who obviously dont care too much for cats, that have stated they do not think these dogs would attack a child and they only did it because it was a cat are quite simply not thinking about what they type.
I completely agree with you!!

I wasnt trying to cause arguments 'typical echo reader' decided he would start giving me abuse just because i had said my dog wasnt bad.

I agree with you though.

Thanks for putting that great opinion across.

typical echo reader,, says...
3:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Kelsie wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
Kelsie wrote: I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.
Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong. The owners of these dogs have obviously not taken the time and effort to do what you have with your dog and train it. They cant even be bothered to properly look after them which is shown in the fact that they were not supervised and were roaming the streets free! Let alone it appears that they havent even notified the police their dogs are missing!!! Which I imagine is the main difference between running up to a cat and sniffing it / standing it's ground and running up to a cat and killing it. This is my point about unpredicability and the fact that an animal like this 'could' quite easily have attacked a child rather than it being a cat. I know it didnt attack a child (thank god) but to the few posters who obviously dont care too much for cats, that have stated they do not think these dogs would attack a child and they only did it because it was a cat are quite simply not thinking about what they type.
I completely agree with you!!

I wasnt trying to cause arguments 'typical echo reader' decided he would start giving me abuse just because i had said my dog wasnt bad.

I agree with you though.

Thanks for putting that great opinion across.
No, "typical echo reader" was taking the p!ss out of all the reactionary "typical echo readers" on this site, who really actually will make the judgements I made against anybody they disagree with. Sorry you took offence, but you got the wrong end of the stick. Even in this thread you can see people saying that the owners must be scumbags, simply because of the dogs they choose to own

greystonesben, Fareham says...
3:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09

DinkDankDoo wrote:
Of course cats do not bite or shyte in innocent people's gardens where children play. I wish every animal was as nice as all of your cats because everyone of them does no harm anywhere! Get a grip cat lovers, they can be as bad as any other animal. I bet your kids can do no wrong either can they!!!
Firstly I do not have any kids, secondly, the only reason I do not own a dog is because I do not have the time to walk it. I love dogs as equally as I love cats and any other animal for that matter.

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about cats because a neighbours cat may have fouled in your garden before. Get over that chip if you want to add decent content to this conversation because at the moment, you just sound like a jealous ex wife who only views their own opinion as right.

An average cat bite is no where near as serious as a dog bite FACT.

And while I appreciate it is not nice to find cats muck in your garden, where do you draw the line? I expect foxes foul your garden too, as will birds, worms, etc etc. While I do not think playing with excrement is very good for your offspring, it's parents whereby you molly coddle your children over germs that is meaning diseases which were almost unheard of years ago are common place now. So what if your kid has a bit of dirt on their hand/legs. Never hurt me as a child which is probably why I dont tend to catch as many illnesses now.

And to generalise that cats can be as bad as any other animal... bad at what? Tennis? Croquet? If we are taling violent then how many cases are there EVER (not just per year) of cats mauling people? Of cats killing people?

mecharacter, southampton says...
3:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09

old woman lover wrote:
cat lover mecharacter Same person
No we are not the same person ! - I see from the comments we simply have the same view.

Fabulous to see so many others that agree with us as well !

beanoboy, Romsey says...
4:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09

This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?

typical echo reader,, says...
4:39pm Mon 6 Jul 09

beanoboy wrote:
This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?
Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds

binman1234, bittern says...
4:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09

well at least the cat wont go to toilet on neighbours garden ,,,,,,,,,,,,, you cant help its animals nature i have the cats coming in my garden murdering my wildlife in the garden so mabe the the local brids might be safe for a while will i get my photo in the echo when i catch the cat responsable i think not

queenb, hedge end says...
4:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09

typical echo reader, wrote:
beanoboy wrote: This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?
Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds
the difference here is the cat came to your house it wasnt curled up in its own garden.
if the cat had then scratched your dog to pieces would you have asked your neighbour to cover vets bills for instance. thus making it the cats fault for being in the wrong place causing trouble.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09

queenb wrote:
typical echo reader, wrote:
beanoboy wrote: This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?
Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds
the difference here is the cat came to your house it wasnt curled up in its own garden. if the cat had then scratched your dog to pieces would you have asked your neighbour to cover vets bills for instance. thus making it the cats fault for being in the wrong place causing trouble.
Spot on. If a cat ventures into dog terroritory then the dog cannot be held responsible. Especially if it is within it's own home and therefore doesnt need to be on a lead etc. The dog can and probably will see that as a threat. I still think a lot of dogs wouldnt kill a cat in that position. And the fact there were 3 dogs meant that when one backed off, there were still two going for the cat. The poor cat wouldnt have had a chance to get away even if it was quicker than the dog.

beanoboy, Romsey says...
5:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09

no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?

greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:09pm Mon 6 Jul 09

binman1234 wrote:
well at least the cat wont go to toilet on neighbours garden ,,,,,,,,,,,,, you cant help its animals nature i have the cats coming in my garden murdering my wildlife in the garden so mabe the the local brids might be safe for a while will i get my photo in the echo when i catch the cat responsable i think not
Oh yeah hurrah! Lets all rejoice in the fact that this cat will now not be able to soil on neighbours gardens! (assuming that this particular cat does infact go outside and doesnt have a litter tray indoors which it uses). What a ******* insensitive thing to say!

Im going to do a bit of stereotyping now and say you really are living up to your username because the above post shows no signs of intelligence whatsoever.

And since how long has the 'wildlife' which chooses to live in your garden belonged to you?

The only thing you will get in the Echo is an award for most moronic person/post. You idiot.

Laughing, southampton says...
5:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09

The responsibility for the dogs actions does lie in the hands of the owners.

They should have been on a leash and have ID tags.

A dog recently attacked my cat. I have no problem with the dog, as I feel the owners should walk their dog securely. I have also nearly ran this poor mutt over due to the owners lack of using a LEASH.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:25pm Mon 6 Jul 09

beanoboy wrote:
no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?
The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats.

My simple point is that there hasnt to my knowledge been a case of a domestic cat killing a human. There has been many cases of domestic dogs killing humans or seriously injuring humans.

Hence why you need to be a lot more strict in control over your pet should you decide to own a dog rather than a cat, because dogs HAVE THE POTENTIAL to seriously injure or kill a human, cats do not.

Because of this, cats do have a lot more freedom, let out during the day to wander free etc. With this you will inevitably get them killing things like mice and birds as it is within a cats nature. It is not within a dogs nature to kill things (domesticated well trained dogs). So the fact these dogs have done so, to me says they are not well trained and the point of 'it COULD have been a kid' has been made because you cannot say for sure, why they attacked the cat and what would have happened had it been a child. The dogs are not trained and were not supervised. They didnt stop when instructed and to me that says out of control. The punishment is not for me to decide, but given the facts, I know I wouldnt feel confortable living around there with an owner who doesnt appear to have control over their 'pets'.

King Mush, Woolston says...
5:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
You can get the undivided attention of any fighting dog with the use of a garden fork in the ribs.
Good advice. However, you then have the undivided attention of the dog's owner rolling up with chav mates in tow, armed with baseball bats and other unleashed devil dogs


stmarysmush, literally, says...
6:21pm Mon 6 Jul 09

greystonesben wrote:
beanoboy wrote:
no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?
The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats.

My simple point is that there hasnt to my knowledge been a case of a domestic cat killing a human. There has been many cases of domestic dogs killing humans or seriously injuring humans.

Hence why you need to be a lot more strict in control over your pet should you decide to own a dog rather than a cat, because dogs HAVE THE POTENTIAL to seriously injure or kill a human, cats do not.

Because of this, cats do have a lot more freedom, let out during the day to wander free etc. With this you will inevitably get them killing things like mice and birds as it is within a cats nature. It is not within a dogs nature to kill things (domesticated well trained dogs). So the fact these dogs have done so, to me says they are not well trained and the point of 'it COULD have been a kid' has been made because you cannot say for sure, why they attacked the cat and what would have happened had it been a child. The dogs are not trained and were not supervised. They didnt stop when instructed and to me that says out of control. The punishment is not for me to decide, but given the facts, I know I wouldnt feel confortable living around there with an owner who doesnt appear to have control over their 'pets'.
The underlying theme to this comment seems to be that you're a one-dimensional plum who thinks this thread's about "cats vs. dogs". Some people just don't think this is a big deal, some people think it's unpleasant but basically meh, and others seem to think it's a horrendous crime against felinity on a par with murder

typical echo reader,, says...
7:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09

I think daily echo comments is a pretty cool guy. Eh over-reacts to trivia and doesnt afraid of anything

The Mad Dog, is not Barking says...
8:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09

typical echo reader, wrote:
I think daily echo comments is a pretty cool guy. Eh over-reacts to trivia and doesnt afraid of anything
You are DENZIL!!

I'd recognise that style of grammer anywhere.

The Mad Dog, is not Barking, says...
8:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09

Sorry everyone

typical, echo reader, ? says...
9:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09

typical echo reader, wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
typical echo reader, wrote: I think daily echo comments is a pretty cool guy. Eh over-reacts to trivia and doesnt afraid of anything
You are DENZIL!! I'd recognise that style of grammer anywhere.
Fail. Not denzil, not that I'll be losing any sleep over it if you don't believe me. The "grammar" as you put it, is simply an internet meme you haven't yet encountered. Read all about it here http://www.encyclope diadramatica.com/Pre tty_cool_guy SFW
So, there are at least three of us now, all with split personalities!


typical, echo reader, ? says...
9:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09

The Mad Dog, is not Barking wrote:
Sorry everyone
Sorry again but this was an erroneous post on behalf of someone else by me and I forgot who I am.

now in the north, bolton says...
12:48pm Tue 7 Jul 09

Common sense people...it is unlikely these dogs would have attacked a baby as babies dont move about so much.
Yes dogs do tend to chase cats but these dogs together obviously have a strong pack/hunt instinct and could very well have attacked a small child who may try to run or who is nervous of them.
They are very expensive animals and the fact that they are untagged suggests that the owners either dont have the money or want to spend the money on making sure they get what is probably around £1500 worth of dogs back.
Its not a huge area really, and plenty of people will know these animals and who owns them (if they havent been stolen from somewhere else and taken there that is.)
You would think that the owners would have turned up for the dogs by now, if they valued them more than they valued getting in the doo-doo.
The owners are at fault for not keeping them properly control and impounded.
The dogs are not at fault, they chase and kill like cats and any other animal for food and fun, including us who pay others to kill cows/pigs/sheep etc. The dogs will be more aggressive in a pack situation as that it more normal to their nature ie they are DOGS which people forget when they move these animals into the house.
I do wonder how sweet this lady is when she lives in that area and names her cat after marajuana!
Security word :
blow-park!!

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:03pm Tue 7 Jul 09

now in the north wrote:
Common sense people...it is unlikely these dogs would have attacked a baby as babies dont move about so much. Yes dogs do tend to chase cats but these dogs together obviously have a strong pack/hunt instinct and could very well have attacked a small child who may try to run or who is nervous of them. They are very expensive animals and the fact that they are untagged suggests that the owners either dont have the money or want to spend the money on making sure they get what is probably around £1500 worth of dogs back. Its not a huge area really, and plenty of people will know these animals and who owns them (if they havent been stolen from somewhere else and taken there that is.) You would think that the owners would have turned up for the dogs by now, if they valued them more than they valued getting in the doo-doo. The owners are at fault for not keeping them properly control and impounded. The dogs are not at fault, they chase and kill like cats and any other animal for food and fun, including us who pay others to kill cows/pigs/sheep etc. The dogs will be more aggressive in a pack situation as that it more normal to their nature ie they are DOGS which people forget when they move these animals into the house. I do wonder how sweet this lady is when she lives in that area and names her cat after marajuana! Security word : blow-park!!
Oh dear. Within the first 5 lines you have contradicted yourself. And if you had read the story you will see the cat wasnt moving, but was infact asleep on it's own front garden so the dogs werent chasing it!

And to finish your post in that manner you snob. Just because someone lives where they do, doesnt make them any less of a person, and what someone choses to name a pet is irrelivant you moron.

greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:09pm Tue 7 Jul 09

stmarysmush, literally wrote:
greystonesben wrote:
beanoboy wrote: no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?
The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats. My simple point is that there hasnt to my knowledge been a case of a domestic cat killing a human. There has been many cases of domestic dogs killing humans or seriously injuring humans. Hence why you need to be a lot more strict in control over your pet should you decide to own a dog rather than a cat, because dogs HAVE THE POTENTIAL to seriously injure or kill a human, cats do not. Because of this, cats do have a lot more freedom, let out during the day to wander free etc. With this you will inevitably get them killing things like mice and birds as it is within a cats nature. It is not within a dogs nature to kill things (domesticated well trained dogs). So the fact these dogs have done so, to me says they are not well trained and the point of 'it COULD have been a kid' has been made because you cannot say for sure, why they attacked the cat and what would have happened had it been a child. The dogs are not trained and were not supervised. They didnt stop when instructed and to me that says out of control. The punishment is not for me to decide, but given the facts, I know I wouldnt feel confortable living around there with an owner who doesnt appear to have control over their 'pets'.
The underlying theme to this comment seems to be that you're a one-dimensional plum who thinks this thread's about "cats vs. dogs". Some people just don't think this is a big deal, some people think it's unpleasant but basically meh, and others seem to think it's a horrendous crime against felinity on a par with murder
Not at all.

My point you ingrown hair was that people who dont seem to like cats are shooting down and ridiculing those who do who in turn make a good and valid point. That the dogs COULD have attacked a child.

My post was highlighting the fact they COULD have done this, not that they WOULD have done it.

I like dogs as much as I like cats, and although I cant understand them, I appreciate there are people who have an irrational dislike toward cats.

What I dont appreciate is people thinking just because they dont like them, then it's ok for the cats to be hurt and take an 'oh well' attitude. Personal opinion.

And no, before you say, I dont think it is 'OK' for my cats to kill and maul any other animal, but I accept there is little I can do about it because of the nature of a cat.

A dogs nature may have been to hunt and kill things years ago, but when you domesticate a dog and it lives with you, you feed it and walk it etc, his great great great grandads doggy tricks will have no bearing on his life.

So to say it is nature for a dog to hunt and kill in a pack is just a load of bo11ocks im afraid. The nature of the dog is how is it now, how it was brought up etc, not what the breed may have been used for in years past.

stmarysmush, literally, says...
3:03pm Tue 7 Jul 09

Quick! Insult whoever disagrees with you! Only way! Save yourself!

stmarysmush, literally, says...
3:17pm Tue 7 Jul 09

I think mauled cat is a pretty cool guy. eh choses to name is pets, and doesnt afraid of anything

wilson castaway, thornhill says...
4:00pm Tue 7 Jul 09

I often see dogs roaming about the place on thier own as their owners live in blocks of flats and cant be bothered to get off there arses and walk them proplerly, they just let them out the main door to run and **** all over the place.

now in the north, bolton says...
9:30pm Wed 8 Jul 09

Moron?? lol
I have probably (not including childhood pets) 17 years experience in working with dogs and livestock, along with other pets like cats and xome exotics.
You defend your area and personal pleasures with all you can which is a limited level of language such as "moron" instead of some decent and intelligent comment.
As for your comments of snobbery, I have lived on the Weston estate, the flower gardens estate, st denys, the millbrook estate and the shirley warren estate where I actually began handling problem animals for the first time at the Shirley Warren council Kennels for a guy named Dave who went on to run the Blue Cross centre in Bubb Lane, West end.
I now train dogs for sheep and cattle farming.
I have experience of all kinds of animals, even those residing on the Weston Estate.
And no, I dont think that every resident who lives there is scum, but I do think that someone who thinks its smart to name a cat after an illegal drug is an idiot for drawing attention to it and herself in that way.
My apologies for not seeing the contradiction I have made in the first 5 lines...Perhaps you could point out exactly what it is you think I have made oppositional comments on?!
And, if your telling me the cat didnt move or try to run when these dogs came bounding towards it then I presume you have inside information on its ability to see and hear, or indeed, an self preservation skills at all.
security word stop-hurt

littlemich, southampton says...
10:46pm Wed 8 Jul 09

joybug82 wrote:
I feel really really sorry for this lady, I have 2 cats of my own and I moved to Weston just over a week ago my black cat has gone missing and he is only 9 months old, he is my pride and joy and some people might say get over it, it is only a cat but unless you have animals you won't understand they become part of you family and they are your life, so when you loose a pet especially in these horrific circumstances, its like loosing a child and it breaks your heart. I hope i find my cat and get mine back but unfortunatley for this lady she has lost apart of her life and for the people that owned the dogs need to be put down or put away at least for murder, its cruel disgusting and how anyone who lets their dogs do that think its right then think again my friends.
i dont no if this is any help but i have seen a young looking black cat up by the school, it didnt have a coller on, im sure it was yesterday i saw it. hope u find it soon

the-blogger, Southampton says...
7:17pm Thu 9 Jul 09

Fine the owners heavily - and put the dogs down. SIMPLE

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Pauline Foster with Charlie, after the attack which killed another of her cats Pauline Foster with Charlie, after the attack which killed another of her cats

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