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9:59am Monday 6th July 2009
THE hunt is on for the owner of a pack of dogs who viciously mauled a cat to death as it sat in its front garden.
Animal lover Pauline Foster watched in horror as three large dogs pounced on her beloved cat, Sencimillia, killing her within seconds.
The 50-year-old, of Kingsclere Avenue, fought in vain to get the dogs to let go of her tortoiseshell cat but they proved too strong and continued their attack.
Despite desperate pleas for help to neighbours who came out and saw the traumatic attack on the grass outside the front of her home, she was left to tackle the dogs alone.
Help finally came when police arrived just before 12.30pm. They were able to catch the dogs and took them to Southampton City Council’s Warren Avenue Kennels, where they will stay until the owners are found.
Officers are now investigating the attack and are appealing for the owners of the dogs, two brown and one white and believed to be Bull Mastiffs, to come forward.
Fighting back the tears, Pauline, who had Sencimillia for five years, said: “It is one of the most horrific things I have ever seen and those images will haunt me for the rest of my life. I will never be able to forget it.
“I was just in complete shock. I ran over to the dogs screaming and tried to drag them away from my cat but they just wouldn’t let her go.
They were just ripping her apart. It was awful.
“I was screaming for someone to help. Crowds of people came out from their homes but they all just stood there.
“I’ve got three other cats and I’m worried that the same will happen to them. I love my cats and Sencimillia was the most loving of them all.
“I just hope that whoever owns these dogs are caught because they don’t deserve to have dogs. I have seen the dogs around the estate before so they must live near by.”
Anyone with any information about the owners of the dogs or who saw what happened should contact Bitterne police station on 0845 045 45 45.
RownhamsResident, Southampton says...
10:15am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bartonian, Chandler's Ford says...
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D'Arcy Sarto, Hythe says...
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Huffybear, Southampton says...
10:25am Mon 6 Jul 09
northamsoul, isle of wight says...
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northamsoul, isle of wight says...
10:38am Mon 6 Jul 09
BenJovi, Patcham says...
10:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
hulla baloo, Turkey says...
10:42am Mon 6 Jul 09
joybug82, Weston, Southampton says...
11:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
Shoong, Winchester says...
11:13am Mon 6 Jul 09
bullarboy, bitterne says...
11:27am Mon 6 Jul 09
BenJovi wrote:How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
Ken Hutchinson, Southampton says...
11:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
Huffybear, Southampton says...
11:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
bullarboy wrote:No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.
BenJovi wrote:How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
Huffybear, Southampton says...
11:43am Mon 6 Jul 09
Ken Hutchinson wrote:Ken, these were 3 large dogs, so essentially a pack.
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
bullarboy, bitterne says...
11:48am Mon 6 Jul 09
Huffybear wrote:Huffybear - I totally do feel for this poor woman - my point was aimed at Benjovi who wanted owners charged with murder for dog crime - which just isn't practical or enforceable due to the fact that animals attack and chase each other. As for intelligence - Are you honestly saying that a domestic dog, when placed in front of a domestic cat wouldn't chase it, attack it or maul it? - because if you are you are living in cloud cuckoo land!!
bullarboy wrote:No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.BenJovi wrote: Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
freemantlegirl2, Southampton says...
11:49am Mon 6 Jul 09
Huffybear wrote:and what if there had been a small child in the garden???? dogs shouldn't be allowed to stray, however big they are. They're a danger to themselves and others. Bring back a payable dog licence. Will stop all these 'chavs' buying Staffys and letting them run riot everywhere too! my dog was attacked by a Staffy whose owner said he was 'playing' as he clamped his jaws roudn my dog's neck... hmmmmm!
Ken Hutchinson wrote:Ken, these were 3 large dogs, so essentially a pack.
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
cat lover, southampton says...
11:53am Mon 6 Jul 09
churchnill, Eastleigh says...
12:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
crashley, southampton says...
12:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
hulla baloo wrote:Isn't this name used as another name for marijuana?? Begs the question why she named her cat after a drug!!
What sort of name is Sencimillia?
greystonesben, Fareham says...
12:06pm Mon 6 Jul 09
bullarboy wrote:While I agree with the sentiments that the owners although responsible cannot be punished as severly as BenJovi is implying, I do think that people who cannot and do not control their dogs should be punished. Fined heavily and an order levied never allowing these people to own pets again is what I deem to be appropriate.
BenJovi wrote: Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
Derek of Dibden Purlieu, Hampshire says...
12:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
12:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
churchnill wrote:Spot the person who doesnt like cats.
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
DinkDankDoo, Lordswood says...
12:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Ken Hutchinson, Southampton says...
12:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem, Southampton says...
12:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Ken Hutchinson wrote:Poor woman, a sad story. But as Ken said, cats and dogs have historically not got on well. In turn, this cat probably savaged it's fair share of birds and mice, without any reprisal.
It seems quite fashionable to become hysterical about Dogs at the moment.Haven't Cats and Dogs always scrapped?I have seen the most placid of dogs go absolutely crackers at the sight of a cat - it isn't a dangerous dog issue here, but I'm sure that all of the "reactionaries" will turn it into one.
cat lover, southampton says...
12:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09
bird lover, says...
12:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09
mecharacter, southampton says...
1:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09
old woman lover, says...
1:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
1:29pm Mon 6 Jul 09
soton1980, Southampton/Winchester/Fareham says...
1:38pm Mon 6 Jul 09
churchnill wrote:What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then?
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
bullarboy, bitterne says...
1:49pm Mon 6 Jul 09
soton1980 wrote:Boll*x - It wasn't a small child or toddler tho was it? How can you generalise and say that because they killed a cat they will probably go on to kill a child? - you can't!- none of us can. It's like saying someone who smokes weed will probably go on to do Heroin - You can't come up with crap like this - By the way Im not a dog-owner - just a realist!
churchnill wrote: So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then? It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour. This is a disgusting incident. The dogs should be put down IMMEDIATELY!
queenb, hedge end says...
1:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
bullarboy, bitterne says...
1:53pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Rudd Gillett wrote:Mrs Slocombes p***y was very old tho Rudd, and had probably lived an action-packed life!!
Mrs Slocombes **** also died this week.
Georgem, Southampton says...
1:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09
soton1980 wrote:How do you make that fantastic leap there? Dog killing cat is "no doubt" the first step toward killing children? Utter nonsense. There's no reason at all to suppose that. The relationship between cats and dogs is well-known. If what you say is true, if this is "undoubtedly" the first step, then there must be massive amounts of documented cases of dogs attacking cats, and then graduating to babies. Where?
churchnill wrote:What if it have been a small child/toddler? Would you still have the same opinion then?
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour.
This is a disgusting incident. The dogs should be put down IMMEDIATELY!
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09
DinkDankDoo wrote:Generalisation there a bit dont you think?
Only last month, I watched a cat pounce on a bird and the bird didnt recover. In fact the bird lay in the cat owners street for a week. I know an old lady who swallowed a fly etc etc! It cant be nice to witness something like this but dog do not like cats END OF!
closey, Merryoak says...
2:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Huffybear wrote:It was nature before humans decided they could "own" another living creature, and domesticated dogs and cats. So really, it's humanity at fault. What's with the rhetorical "do you have a pet? do you know how this woman feels?" stuff, too? Pets are pets. Pets die. Apportioning blame won't change that. So you put the dogs down. Now that's 2 people who have lost pets. Do they cancel each other out, then? I like how you've managed to paint a picture of the owners as subhuman scum, despite not knowing anything about them. Bigoted much? I at least agree with your last sentence, although I suspect we had different sets of humans in mind
bullarboy wrote:No its not nature. Since when was it nature for a domestic dog to kill a domestic cat? Do you have a pet? Have you any idea how this woman feels? Where the hell was the owner/s anyway. They're not responsible pet owners and should be banned for life and levied with a heavy fine. They should be named and shamed but knowing the mentality of these so called people, they'd see it as something to celebrate. I swear there are more intelligent amoeba than there are humans at times.
BenJovi wrote:How ridiculous!! - How can you possibly give the owner a 'murder charge' when his/her dog has killed something? - Whilst not nice - it's NOT always the owners fault! - I'd love to see a judge sending someone down because 'Rover' - chased a rabbit or fox - It's nature - Get over it.
Punishment for dog owners should be as if the owner commited the offence. If anything is killed by a dog, then its a murder charge for the owner.
annoyed01, Southampton says...
2:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09
closey wrote:So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, then? Brilliant
I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
Shoong, Winchester says...
2:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
churchnill wrote:A really very stupid, ill thought out comment.
So as "domesticated" cats they wont need to go outside and kill birds just for fun so they can take home to owners to say awwww bless he brought back a dead bird as a pressie, cat owners are quite happy for cats to kill birds or any other thing that moves, crapping in everyone's lawns except their own, owners just say awww bless little tiddly winks he gotta go somehwere, ffs!
bullarboy, bitterne says...
2:09pm Mon 6 Jul 09
closey wrote:I suspect you're talking crap as well. - 'Nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before' - then they waited until it atacked your cat to have it put down? - What utter nonsense - you are an imbecile!
I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.
lasoton, Southampton says...
2:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:25pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Ken Hutchinson wrote:It's not that dogs who attack cats progress to maming and killing babies. To suggest that is absurd but I think you misunderstood the point Soton1980 may have been trying to make.
"The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought." No it isn't. Dogs very often chase cats, who in turn stalk everything from birds to butterflies. The issue here is with the owners. However, I am yet to see the evidence that dogs who chase/attack cats automatically progress to consuming young children....stop being so hysterical. I feel sorry for the woman and the cat,but nature dictates that I shan't be giving it another thought..... SW: deny-fish...... bl00dy cats again!
queenb, hedge end says...
2:28pm Mon 6 Jul 09
bemused26, southampton says...
2:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:34pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben wrote:I don't think there's enough ambiguity in soton1980's post for anybody to misunderstand it:
Ken Hutchinson wrote:It's not that dogs who attack cats progress to maming and killing babies. To suggest that is absurd but I think you misunderstood the point Soton1980 may have been trying to make.
"The old mouse being chased by a cat which is in turn being chased by a dog is an absurd dated thought." No it isn't. Dogs very often chase cats, who in turn stalk everything from birds to butterflies. The issue here is with the owners. However, I am yet to see the evidence that dogs who chase/attack cats automatically progress to consuming young children....stop being so hysterical. I feel sorry for the woman and the cat,but nature dictates that I shan't be giving it another thought..... SW: deny-fish...... bl00dy cats again!
It 'could' have been a baby in that garden. And before you come back with your predictable "it could have been x, y and z but it wasnt" it is not as if we havent seen so many cases where dogs have attacked children is it?
Dogs this savage (attacking a sleeping cat is savage) should never be left alone. Some dogs are averse to bright colours. My aunties dog does not like bright yellow jackets as it reminds him of the postman who he didnt like. So if you wear a yellow item of clothing, he gets angry. Maybe extreme but what if there was a kid in that garden and the dogs have an aversion to kids (as some dogs do) or the kid was wearing a brightly coloured top which the dog didnt like. It would have made no difference that it was a Kid rather than a cat and it would have done the same thing.
I know its all if's and buts, but an uncontrolled dog which attacks and kills a cat (regardless of whether or not cartoons seem to lead everyone to think dogs automatically hate cats) is not well trained and untrained dogs are unpredictable so therefore, could attack people.
It has happened before and will happen again where dogs do not see anything wrong with mauling children to death. These dogs killing a cat is no doubt the first step towards that kind of behaviour.
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:35pm Mon 6 Jul 09
queenb wrote:Ah, the old "she might be reading the comments" cop-out. Not buying it.
Georgem, Southampton says...
2:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
What really troubles me here is the assumption that there is always someone to blame for everything that happens, and that everyone is screaming and baying for the blood of the owners. Nothing like the anonymity of the Internet to bring out the self-righteous savage in us, eh.
We are not all out for blood at all, most are naturally upset by this article.
There is a blame as dogs are not by law meant to be out on the streets without a lead so can we remember there is a very upset lady out there that could be reading these comments too.
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
annoyed01 wrote:I dont think that people are saying that the dogs will now go and kill people, only that there is the potential there for them to do so and that this (albeit having a tragic outcome) could have been very different had it been a kid that the dogs set upon.
What a bunch of ignorant small minded people you are. Yes this was a terrible thing and I feel for the cats owner but how do you get from cat to kiddie killer the majority of poster should be put down
closey, Merryoak says...
2:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
bullarboy wrote:Talking crap??? Do you think that I would write a comment like this if it hadn't happened, and you've got the cheek to call me an imbecile!
closey wrote: I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.I suspect you're talking crap as well. - 'Nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before' - then they waited until it atacked your cat to have it put down? - What utter nonsense - you are an imbecile!
Kelsie, Southampton says...
2:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
queenb, hedge end says...
2:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical echo reader wrote:and thats a helpful comment how......
I think the dogs should be slaughtered, the owners forced to eat them, then they themselves are put down, and their entire family sterilized and fined infinity billion pounds. Then all dogs should be made illegal and an ice rink built in their place, then everybody in Millbrook should be exterminated. Also, more policemen for free
closey, Merryoak says...
2:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Georgem wrote:no, thats not the case at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I was just putting mine across.
closey wrote: I know exactly how this lady feels, my cat was killed by a ridgeback/staffy cross that wasn't on a lead and had previously nearly taken a small baby's hand off a few weeks before. I was devastated as it happened right in front of me, I managed to pull the dog off, but the damage had already been done. The dog mentioned was destroyed the next day, so I hope that the dogs that mauled this poor ladies cat get the same. my poor cat didn't have a chance and that was one dog and not three. So you morons with your ridiculous comments should take a step back and think about this poor woman feelings.So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, then? Brilliant
DinkDankDoo, Lordswood says...
2:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:57pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Kelsie wrote:Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong.
I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.
thesaint, southampton says...
3:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Kelsie, Southampton says...
3:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben wrote:I completely agree with you!!
Kelsie wrote: I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong. The owners of these dogs have obviously not taken the time and effort to do what you have with your dog and train it. They cant even be bothered to properly look after them which is shown in the fact that they were not supervised and were roaming the streets free! Let alone it appears that they havent even notified the police their dogs are missing!!! Which I imagine is the main difference between running up to a cat and sniffing it / standing it's ground and running up to a cat and killing it. This is my point about unpredicability and the fact that an animal like this 'could' quite easily have attacked a child rather than it being a cat. I know it didnt attack a child (thank god) but to the few posters who obviously dont care too much for cats, that have stated they do not think these dogs would attack a child and they only did it because it was a cat are quite simply not thinking about what they type.
typical echo reader,, says...
3:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Kelsie wrote:No, "typical echo reader" was taking the p!ss out of all the reactionary "typical echo readers" on this site, who really actually will make the judgements I made against anybody they disagree with. Sorry you took offence, but you got the wrong end of the stick. Even in this thread you can see people saying that the owners must be scumbags, simply because of the dogs they choose to own
greystonesben wrote:I completely agree with you!!
Kelsie wrote: I have a Staffordshire bull terrior female. I no they dont have the best reputation but my dog is the softest animal every .. She is even scared of Jack Russells lol. But as soon as she see's a cat she wants 2 get to it ... Not to hurt it just to sniff and try and act like 'the boss'. Its not always the dogs owners faults that there dogs are evil. Feel very sorry for the lady and her cat ... But please dont call all dogs bad. Although i no you can never trust a dog 100%, I no mine is very very gentle and she wouldnt go out to attack she loves animals, humans and children.Kelsie I dont think anyone is implying all dogs are bad, and your dog is a sortie and a good dog as you have brought it up in the right way. Breed is irrelevant in a dogs behaviour in my opinion providing they are trained right and brought up to know what is right and what is wrong. The owners of these dogs have obviously not taken the time and effort to do what you have with your dog and train it. They cant even be bothered to properly look after them which is shown in the fact that they were not supervised and were roaming the streets free! Let alone it appears that they havent even notified the police their dogs are missing!!! Which I imagine is the main difference between running up to a cat and sniffing it / standing it's ground and running up to a cat and killing it. This is my point about unpredicability and the fact that an animal like this 'could' quite easily have attacked a child rather than it being a cat. I know it didnt attack a child (thank god) but to the few posters who obviously dont care too much for cats, that have stated they do not think these dogs would attack a child and they only did it because it was a cat are quite simply not thinking about what they type.
I wasnt trying to cause arguments 'typical echo reader' decided he would start giving me abuse just because i had said my dog wasnt bad.
I agree with you though.
Thanks for putting that great opinion across.
greystonesben, Fareham says...
3:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
DinkDankDoo wrote:Firstly I do not have any kids, secondly, the only reason I do not own a dog is because I do not have the time to walk it. I love dogs as equally as I love cats and any other animal for that matter.
Of course cats do not bite or shyte in innocent people's gardens where children play. I wish every animal was as nice as all of your cats because everyone of them does no harm anywhere! Get a grip cat lovers, they can be as bad as any other animal. I bet your kids can do no wrong either can they!!!
mecharacter, southampton says...
3:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
old woman lover wrote:No we are not the same person ! - I see from the comments we simply have the same view.
cat lover mecharacter Same person
beanoboy, Romsey says...
4:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical echo reader,, says...
4:39pm Mon 6 Jul 09
beanoboy wrote:Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds
This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?
binman1234, bittern says...
4:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09
queenb, hedge end says...
4:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical echo reader, wrote:the difference here is the cat came to your house it wasnt curled up in its own garden.
beanoboy wrote: This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds
greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09
queenb wrote:Spot on. If a cat ventures into dog terroritory then the dog cannot be held responsible. Especially if it is within it's own home and therefore doesnt need to be on a lead etc. The dog can and probably will see that as a threat. I still think a lot of dogs wouldnt kill a cat in that position. And the fact there were 3 dogs meant that when one backed off, there were still two going for the cat. The poor cat wouldnt have had a chance to get away even if it was quicker than the dog.
typical echo reader, wrote:the difference here is the cat came to your house it wasnt curled up in its own garden. if the cat had then scratched your dog to pieces would you have asked your neighbour to cover vets bills for instance. thus making it the cats fault for being in the wrong place causing trouble.beanoboy wrote: This nearly happend the other day when next doors cat desided to come into my house. If my dog wasn`t 13 the same thing would have happend. Would this have been the dogs fault aswell?Yes. You should put it down immediately, then fine yourself infinity billion pounds
beanoboy, Romsey says...
5:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:09pm Mon 6 Jul 09
binman1234 wrote:Oh yeah hurrah! Lets all rejoice in the fact that this cat will now not be able to soil on neighbours gardens! (assuming that this particular cat does infact go outside and doesnt have a litter tray indoors which it uses). What a ******* insensitive thing to say!
well at least the cat wont go to toilet on neighbours garden ,,,,,,,,,,,,, you cant help its animals nature i have the cats coming in my garden murdering my wildlife in the garden so mabe the the local brids might be safe for a while will i get my photo in the echo when i catch the cat responsable i think not
Laughing, southampton says...
5:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
5:25pm Mon 6 Jul 09
beanoboy wrote:The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats.
no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?
King Mush, Woolston says...
5:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:Good advice. However, you then have the undivided attention of the dog's owner rolling up with chav mates in tow, armed with baseball bats and other unleashed devil dogs
You can get the undivided attention of any fighting dog with the use of a garden fork in the ribs.
stmarysmush, literally, says...
6:21pm Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben wrote:The underlying theme to this comment seems to be that you're a one-dimensional plum who thinks this thread's about "cats vs. dogs". Some people just don't think this is a big deal, some people think it's unpleasant but basically meh, and others seem to think it's a horrendous crime against felinity on a par with murder
beanoboy wrote:The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats.
no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?
My simple point is that there hasnt to my knowledge been a case of a domestic cat killing a human. There has been many cases of domestic dogs killing humans or seriously injuring humans.
Hence why you need to be a lot more strict in control over your pet should you decide to own a dog rather than a cat, because dogs HAVE THE POTENTIAL to seriously injure or kill a human, cats do not.
Because of this, cats do have a lot more freedom, let out during the day to wander free etc. With this you will inevitably get them killing things like mice and birds as it is within a cats nature. It is not within a dogs nature to kill things (domesticated well trained dogs). So the fact these dogs have done so, to me says they are not well trained and the point of 'it COULD have been a kid' has been made because you cannot say for sure, why they attacked the cat and what would have happened had it been a child. The dogs are not trained and were not supervised. They didnt stop when instructed and to me that says out of control. The punishment is not for me to decide, but given the facts, I know I wouldnt feel confortable living around there with an owner who doesnt appear to have control over their 'pets'.
typical echo reader,, says...
7:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09
The Mad Dog, is not Barking says...
8:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical echo reader, wrote:You are DENZIL!!
I think daily echo comments is a pretty cool guy. Eh over-reacts to trivia and doesnt afraid of anything
The Mad Dog, is not Barking, says...
8:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical, echo reader, ? says...
9:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
typical echo reader, wrote:So, there are at least three of us now, all with split personalities!
The Mad Dog wrote:Fail. Not denzil, not that I'll be losing any sleep over it if you don't believe me. The "grammar" as you put it, is simply an internet meme you haven't yet encountered. Read all about it here http://www.encyclope diadramatica.com/Pre tty_cool_guy SFWtypical echo reader, wrote: I think daily echo comments is a pretty cool guy. Eh over-reacts to trivia and doesnt afraid of anythingYou are DENZIL!! I'd recognise that style of grammer anywhere.
typical, echo reader, ? says...
9:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
The Mad Dog, is not Barking wrote:Sorry again but this was an erroneous post on behalf of someone else by me and I forgot who I am.
Sorry everyone
now in the north, bolton says...
12:48pm Tue 7 Jul 09
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:03pm Tue 7 Jul 09
now in the north wrote:Oh dear. Within the first 5 lines you have contradicted yourself. And if you had read the story you will see the cat wasnt moving, but was infact asleep on it's own front garden so the dogs werent chasing it!
Common sense people...it is unlikely these dogs would have attacked a baby as babies dont move about so much. Yes dogs do tend to chase cats but these dogs together obviously have a strong pack/hunt instinct and could very well have attacked a small child who may try to run or who is nervous of them. They are very expensive animals and the fact that they are untagged suggests that the owners either dont have the money or want to spend the money on making sure they get what is probably around £1500 worth of dogs back. Its not a huge area really, and plenty of people will know these animals and who owns them (if they havent been stolen from somewhere else and taken there that is.) You would think that the owners would have turned up for the dogs by now, if they valued them more than they valued getting in the doo-doo. The owners are at fault for not keeping them properly control and impounded. The dogs are not at fault, they chase and kill like cats and any other animal for food and fun, including us who pay others to kill cows/pigs/sheep etc. The dogs will be more aggressive in a pack situation as that it more normal to their nature ie they are DOGS which people forget when they move these animals into the house. I do wonder how sweet this lady is when she lives in that area and names her cat after marajuana! Security word : blow-park!!
greystonesben, Fareham says...
2:09pm Tue 7 Jul 09
stmarysmush, literally wrote:Not at all.
greystonesben wrote:The underlying theme to this comment seems to be that you're a one-dimensional plum who thinks this thread's about "cats vs. dogs". Some people just don't think this is a big deal, some people think it's unpleasant but basically meh, and others seem to think it's a horrendous crime against felinity on a par with murderbeanoboy wrote: no it just shows cats can do what thay like. Would all this fuss have been made if the headline was KILLER CAT KILLS MY PRIZE FISH ?The underlying theme to these comments and the arguements within are that the people who dont seem to like cats say its one rule for dogs another for cats. My simple point is that there hasnt to my knowledge been a case of a domestic cat killing a human. There has been many cases of domestic dogs killing humans or seriously injuring humans. Hence why you need to be a lot more strict in control over your pet should you decide to own a dog rather than a cat, because dogs HAVE THE POTENTIAL to seriously injure or kill a human, cats do not. Because of this, cats do have a lot more freedom, let out during the day to wander free etc. With this you will inevitably get them killing things like mice and birds as it is within a cats nature. It is not within a dogs nature to kill things (domesticated well trained dogs). So the fact these dogs have done so, to me says they are not well trained and the point of 'it COULD have been a kid' has been made because you cannot say for sure, why they attacked the cat and what would have happened had it been a child. The dogs are not trained and were not supervised. They didnt stop when instructed and to me that says out of control. The punishment is not for me to decide, but given the facts, I know I wouldnt feel confortable living around there with an owner who doesnt appear to have control over their 'pets'.
stmarysmush, literally, says...
3:03pm Tue 7 Jul 09
stmarysmush, literally, says...
3:17pm Tue 7 Jul 09
wilson castaway, thornhill says...
4:00pm Tue 7 Jul 09
now in the north, bolton says...
9:30pm Wed 8 Jul 09
littlemich, southampton says...
10:46pm Wed 8 Jul 09
joybug82 wrote:i dont no if this is any help but i have seen a young looking black cat up by the school, it didnt have a coller on, im sure it was yesterday i saw it. hope u find it soon
I feel really really sorry for this lady, I have 2 cats of my own and I moved to Weston just over a week ago my black cat has gone missing and he is only 9 months old, he is my pride and joy and some people might say get over it, it is only a cat but unless you have animals you won't understand they become part of you family and they are your life, so when you loose a pet especially in these horrific circumstances, its like loosing a child and it breaks your heart. I hope i find my cat and get mine back but unfortunatley for this lady she has lost apart of her life and for the people that owned the dogs need to be put down or put away at least for murder, its cruel disgusting and how anyone who lets their dogs do that think its right then think again my friends.
the-blogger, Southampton says...
7:17pm Thu 9 Jul 09
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greystonesben, Fareham says...
10:11am Mon 6 Jul 09
Obviously the owner has little care or control over his/her dogs and my heart goes out to this lady having had to watch her cat go through that. Cant believe that people stood around watching without helping. You can understand people not wanting to get hurt though and if these dogs were as vicious as they sound then that maybe why. I would have helped had I been there and probably been bitten but as many cat owners will tell you, they would do almost anything for their cats!
Poor cat, it must have been so scary for it.