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HM Revenue and Customs presents winding-up petition on Portsmouth Football Club

Pompey issued winding-up order Pompey issued winding-up order

A WINDING-UP petition has been served against Portsmouth Football Club - but the Fratton Park outfit has denied it.

The move could see Pompey entered into compulsory liquidation if it cannot settle its debts by the time of a court hearing in early February.

But in a statement released this afternoon, the club insisted it is in negotiations with the Inland Revenue over VAT payments, and it has not received a formal winding-up petition.

That is despite the High Court in London confirming HM Revenue and Customs had indeed served a notice against Pompey.

Saints' beleaguered south coast rivals are currently the subject of a transfer embargo by the Premier League because Pompey have failed to make payments to other clubs as instalments on player transfers.

The club, which is currently bottom of top flight and four points from safety, is believed to owe at least £10m to other clubs, including Chelsea, Tottenham, and cash-strapped Watford.

Players and officials have also been made to wait for their wages twice this season because there was not enough money in the bank to pay them.

Despite paying other creditors, including South Africa-based Standard Bank through the proceeds raised from the sale of several big-name players including Jermaine Defoe, Glen Johnson, Peter Crouch and Niko Krancjar, Pompey are also believed to still owe around £30m to former owner Sacha Gaydamak in outstanding loans.

There have also been problems relating to outstanding tax bills at the club, which has been sold twice already this year.

Sulaiman Al Fahim bought Pompey from Gaydamak in the summer, only to then sell 90 per cent of his shareholding to Saudi businessman Ali Al Faraj in October, after failing to deliver on promises to bring in new investment.

Although a payment of £2m was said to have been made earlier this month, it appears patience at HMRC has finally run out, with a further £1.5m reportedly remaining unpaid.

It presented a winding-up petition on December 23, but a full court hearing will not take place until February 10.

If the club is unable to strengthen its financial position by then, it could be declared bankrupt.

The transfer window, which opens on Friday, represents the best opportunity to help the struggling club raise some vital funds.

Star players David James, Younes Kaboul and Kevin Prince-Boateng have all been linked with moves away from Portsmouth in a bid to help bring in much-needed cash.

But their departure would be another major blow to manager Avram Grant's hopes of saving his side from relegation, at a time when Pompey are set to lose four more key players for up to a month during the African Cup of Nations.

But in a statement released late this afternoon, the club insisted it hasn't actually received the order.

"Portsmouth Football Club has not been formally served with a winding up petition and is shocked and surprised this action has been taken in respect of VAT, PAYE and National Insurance Contributions which either have been, or are about to be paid, or are disputed," it read.

"The club is disputing the VAT amount outstanding and has formally notified HMRC of this. We expect HMRC to withdraw their demands forthwith.

"Otherwise we anticipate a hearing being held in early January 2010 during which we will request that the High Court order HMRC to withdraw their demands.

Since the takeover by Ali Al Faraj in October 2009, extreme efforts have been made to reach payment arrangements with HMRC to allow the owner time to deal with inherited debt.

"To date the new owner has injected a total of £9.7m of new funds to HMRC - £5.7m paid and security to the value of £4M.

"In such a tough economic environment the club finds it hard to understand this action by HMRC.

"It is well known that the business has been in a difficult position following former owners’ decisions and the current owner is committed to resolving this and moving forward."

Comments(66)

Big Mac says...
1:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Happy New Year to all Saints supporters!

Sholing says...
2:01pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Hahahahahahahahahaha
hah, quality. Happy new year, hahahahahahahahahaha
hahaha

Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter) says...
2:07pm Wed 30 Dec 09

POOR OLD POMPEY

Day Dreamer says...
2:09pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Just shows you "Double Agents" are out there! Well done Arry boy!!!!!!!

rjfmusic says...
2:10pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Heard about the boy who wanted a cowboy outfit for Christmas? - he got Portsmouth Football Club.

Cyber-Fug says...
2:18pm Wed 30 Dec 09

PAY UP POMPEY POMPEY PAY UP !! Hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
happy new year

romsey saint says...
2:26pm Wed 30 Dec 09

oh dear what can the matter be poor old pompey are in the s@@@ again - well done agent harry LOL

bazza says...
2:33pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Sir rise King Harry Redknapp.Please Miss queen.He deserves this honour for pulling the chain on that toilet of a club.What fantastic news to end the decade

freemantlegirl2 says...
2:35pm Wed 30 Dec 09

How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.

costa gaz says...
2:42pm Wed 30 Dec 09

There is a god, thank you.
Now for storrie mandric and rednapp to spend a couple of years in the scubs and fratton park to become a giant primark/netto outlet centre.
happt new year to all the 2 toed mutants that gave us so much stick 6 months ago.
Happy days

Andy Locks Heath says...
3:05pm Wed 30 Dec 09

well said Freemantle Girl. We are all losers, and those who mock Pompey's problems are blind to the slow destruction of football. What is the point of trying to get into the premiership any more when in order to stay up you have to sell your previous team and hire in an entire new squad of foreigners each of whom earns more than the total income of an average League 1 club? Where is the satisfaction of wearing some unpronouncable name on a £50 replica shirt just in order to chant "Our new Cameroon international defender's better than your recent Korean midfield loan signing?". I hope Pompey survive to battle it out with Saints next year in the most interesting and competitive league in England - the Championship.

costa gaz says...
3:17pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Andy locks heath.
Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be.
There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support.
Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did.
Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.

Redhat says...
3:25pm Wed 30 Dec 09

what goes around, comes around...

your days are numbered poopey...

im gonna have a fabulous new year, now even more so... and good riddance to them....

there was no sympathy when we were in trouble, so they wont get none from me!!!

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Captain Swing says...
3:30pm Wed 30 Dec 09

costa gaz wrote:
Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?

ramptonfromsouthampton says...
3:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09

What a freaking mess down the road eh? I have to agree with the sentiments of Andy Locks Heath, Freemantlegirl etc though. Part of the fun of rivalry is actually having rivals to contest with? Okay, I have no sympathy for the retard Skates who were loving it when we were deep in the mire a few months back, but at the end of the day, this is no good for football. Sure I had a big grin on my face when I first heard about it on Talk Sport earlier this afternoon, but having had time to think about it, I dont want Poopey to disappear. Punished, sure. But wiped out? No way. I'm looking forward to seeing Saints give 'em a thrashing on the field of play in the not too distant future. If they are wound-up and closed down, we all end up losing. (Mind you, the thought of those tossers who revelled in our hard times getting it back up them does make you feel good.....) Up the Saints and Happy New Year to all you Saints fans out there!!

Condor Man says...
4:16pm Wed 30 Dec 09

the problem was that Pompey spent big on players like Diarra, James, Johnson, Defoe and Crouch knowing that they couldn't really afford them. Redknapp's inability to coach players meant he needed big signings which the club simply couldn't afford. Sound familiar?

Day Dreamer says...
4:42pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Wait till they interview Arry...."shame real shame, great club, great fans, i got some real friends down there, real football people. This situation is down to non football people getting involved in a proper football club, cannot believe it really very sad very sad. I had some great times down there" Puzzled look from HR etc.....What he should be saying is "I ripped the ar$e out of the club along with Storrie"

Tye-Dye says...
4:45pm Wed 30 Dec 09

God were going to miss them, all the after match riots when they won, the Petersfield bookstore owner p***ing on our seats inside SMS, the boo'ing from them during Ted Bates minute silence, the 100yr old chip on their collective shoulders(though nearly all do not posses the intellect to understand why?!!), the complete and utter lack of sympathy and help during our near demise in June. Did I forget anything? They were warned by some of us back then, if you read some of the posts of those days some of us were spelling it out to them that their demise would be far more shocking than ours, but they just kept on taking the p***. Well goodbye forever blue inbred few, we welcome Aldershot as Hampshire's 2nd team, when in reality they have been for about 6 months now, and I can say with a very happy heart SAINTS FOREVER!!!!

GHamilton says...
4:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.
You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.

rjfmusic says...
5:05pm Wed 30 Dec 09

What a lot of fuss about a game. Instead of having all the players chasing after the same ball, why not buy them one each and be done with it.

GHamilton says...
5:19pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Just read through some of he comments on hear, and some are right on the money but others are alien to me. Being a Scot, i have relations who relations who support Rangers, and others who are Celtic to the bone, i dont think there is rivalry anywhere in football as bitter as between the old firm, but neither set of fans would want the other club to fold, it's what makes life in football what it is, the sheer joy in you when your most bitter rivals get beat or relagated. Can't understand people wanting another club to go bust,.... who knows i might just be getting old!!

Tye-Dye says...
5:43pm Wed 30 Dec 09

GHamilton wrote:
Just read through some of he comments on hear, and some are right on the money but others are alien to me. Being a Scot, i have relations who relations who support Rangers, and others who are Celtic to the bone, i dont think there is rivalry anywhere in football as bitter as between the old firm, but neither set of fans would want the other club to fold, it's what makes life in football what it is, the sheer joy in you when your most bitter rivals get beat or relagated. Can't understand people wanting another club to go bust,.... who knows i might just be getting old!!
Your not getting old GH, I have the misfortune to work with quite a few of them in Hedge End, and my totally anti stance comes from the last 3 years of abuse, I am not exactly a shy wallflower being 6'3 and 15 stone, but the stick that has been dished was not good old fashioned banter, it was out and out hatred of anything to do with Southampton, and all its people. Their rapid debt inducing rise was the release valve they needed after 30 years of being in the shadow, and boy did they dish it, more than one occasion came to blows. Please forgive me for not showing an ounce of sympathy, I have nothing but respect for any other club, fans, City etc, but for them nothing but a intense desire to see them liquidated, they bought it on themselves, now they pay...or not as the case is.

saintjohn29 says...
5:53pm Wed 30 Dec 09

THERE IS A SANTA HAPPY NEW YEAR pompey fans haha

costa gaz says...
6:04pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Captain Swing wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years.

My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football.

The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy.
Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)

mick sterbs says...
6:06pm Wed 30 Dec 09

winding up pompey, nothing wrong with winding up pompey fans!

bigronthestaff says...
6:11pm Wed 30 Dec 09

mick sterbs wrote:
pompey have as much chance of staying up as an erection in susan boyles bedroom.....
That's very, very, 'laugh-out-loud' funny!! =)

As funny are the two words I have to type in now!!!

mass-hard!!! =)

My evening can't get better than this! Pompey are failing and Southampton are climbing rapidly and have every chance of making the play offs. However, the odd thing is, I agree with all of you. It would be a shame that this would no longer be a fixture but, on the flip side, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I'm with Tye-Dye. I used to deliver in and around Skatesville and the stick I used to get from them was unreal. Proper venomous, nasty people. I tried to be friendly about it and rise above it, being a much superior human being from Southampton but, it does wear you down. Which ever way they go, I'm going to be disappointed but absolutely made up at the same time. It's all very confusing!

Happy New Year Saints Fans!!

costa gaz says...
6:14pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Maybe some of you should stand outside St Mary's with your collection buckets at the next home game.
Get real.............

forest hump says...
6:36pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
well said Freemantle Girl. We are all losers, and those who mock Pompey's problems are blind to the slow destruction of football. What is the point of trying to get into the premiership any more when in order to stay up you have to sell your previous team and hire in an entire new squad of foreigners each of whom earns more than the total income of an average League 1 club? Where is the satisfaction of wearing some unpronouncable name on a £50 replica shirt just in order to chant "Our new Cameroon international defender's better than your recent Korean midfield loan signing?". I hope Pompey survive to battle it out with Saints next year in the most interesting and competitive league in England - the Championship.
ALH, there is a real problem with the English Premier League. Firstly, It does not represent England. And before all of you naive anti racists start yelling, I am NOT a person who dislikes foriegners. Secondly, if you look at the proportion of non-English squad palyers, it is detrimental to the National game. It seems now that pulling on an England shirt does not have the same motivation of 40-50 years ago. It's all about clubs fulfilling their needs. You are right, the Championship provides far better entertainment than the EPL. Money(allegedly) buys success. We are now talking business before sporting principles. I hope for everyone, Portsmouth prove themselves. Let's stop this childish banter and wish them well.

Brite Spark says...
6:42pm Wed 30 Dec 09

I feel a tiny bit of sympathy for the genuine and decent Pompey fans, but there also those who have thrown breeze blocks at us Saints fans over the terracing at Fratton Park, and those who don't do banter too well, they think that to wind each other up is a call to arms, well they need to worry about being wound up themselves now. Some of them were sympathetic to Saints when we were in a mess 12 months ago, to them I wish you well and good luck. To the idiots down there that are venomous and hostile toward Saints fans, I will happily dance on PFC's grave. Their FA Cup success was a fraudulent victory, bought on finances that the club never had. It's a shame, I was looking forward to Saints doing the double over PFC next season, I have enjoyed the local rivalry over the years, but there has always been that quite large percentage of Pompey fans who would rather throw bricks at anything in red and white, rather than indulge in a bit of good humoured hard hitting banter.
No wonder their club is in a mess, they are supposedly owned by Arabs, but have a Muslim star and crescent on their shirts. Their current and former management team are in trouble with the tax people, and that same management charge their fans a small ransom to watch the dross on the pitch. I hope they survive, but will be more humble for the experience. The future is bright, the future is red and white.

Tye-Dye says...
6:45pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Cheers Big Ron, I respect the views of fellow posters with the hope they dont go bust, but I personally hope they do. As you have experienced the intense hatred too it is hard to eloquent to others exactly how disturbing their hatred is, and unless you have experienced it first hand it is impossible to understand our lack of sympathy. I have never met a decent one yet, especially if you have the misfortune to work the Leigh Park area, in fact all our fellow Saints who do have sympathy for them I advise you drive to Havant and onto the said Leigh Park estate, make sure you have a Saints badge in your car window, then see how long it lasts intact. Unlike the countless skates who have them in their cars on our so called troubled estates, HUGE difference in respectful attitiude between the two City's. One team in Hampshire.....very true, very shortly ;)

saintpeter48 says...
6:56pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Day Dreamer wrote:
Wait till they interview Arry...."shame real shame, great club, great fans, i got some real friends down there, real football people. This situation is down to non football people getting involved in a proper football club, cannot believe it really very sad very sad. I had some great times down there" Puzzled look from HR etc.....What he should be saying is "I ripped the ar$e out of the club along with Storrie"
well said day dreamer. Harrr Redcrap has got a lot to answer for in all of this, he spent all of their money, bought the FA cup then f**ked off. he's ok when he's spending other peoples money, he's a Judas, a twitching one at that. Not a lot of sympathy for them though, they showed little for us when we were struggling this time last year, hate to see them go under, just relegate them a couple of divisions to shut the smelly f**kers up, crap ground, crap town, crap team, crap supporters, Krap Nott Arf!!!!

spratt says...
7:01pm Wed 30 Dec 09

GHamilton wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote: How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.
You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.
Have to agree with these posts. Club rivalry is natural but the foul nonsense and abuse that appears in these threads shows the worst side of football. We love our respective Clubs but first and foremost we love FOOTBALL and should have a mutual respect for all others who feel the same - no matter which Club they support, As freemantle girl says we are all seeing the catostrophic result big money is having on our game. Pompey is an old Club with a proud history and. for the moment at least, are still alive and in the top flight - not like us in Div 1. So although a dedicated Saints fan I would hate to see them go. Same goes for our other South Coast Clubs.

Brite Spark says...
7:20pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Apparently there is a queue outside the PFC shop, customers who brought team calendars at Christmas for 2010 are demanding refunds for the March to December sections!

mick sterbs says...
7:25pm Wed 30 Dec 09

looks like Ali Al Faraj finally got the 'cowboy outfit' he'd been asking Santa for from the age of 5.....

mick sterbs says...
7:29pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Nintendo have created a game where you cheat your way to the world cup. They are going to call it the "Thierry on Wii" ?

mick sterbs says...
7:33pm Wed 30 Dec 09

What will you get when Portsmouth F.C. are relegated?
10,000 more Chelsea fans.

Tye-Dye says...
7:35pm Wed 30 Dec 09

spratt wrote:
GHamilton wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote: How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.
You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.
Have to agree with these posts. Club rivalry is natural but the foul nonsense and abuse that appears in these threads shows the worst side of football. We love our respective Clubs but first and foremost we love FOOTBALL and should have a mutual respect for all others who feel the same - no matter which Club they support, As freemantle girl says we are all seeing the catostrophic result big money is having on our game. Pompey is an old Club with a proud history and. for the moment at least, are still alive and in the top flight - not like us in Div 1. So although a dedicated Saints fan I would hate to see them go. Same goes for our other South Coast Clubs.
Entitled to your opinion spratt, just like us who wish them gone are entitled to ours, if you call a alternative opinion of yours "foul nonsense and abuse" however, then please accept my view of your sycophantic diatribe as frankly garbage, just an opinion you understand.

sfc4lyf says...
7:54pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Pompey laughed at us, so we will laugh back. However, its a sign of the sad state that the English game is in.
Happy new year everyone.

Brite Spark says...
8:00pm Wed 30 Dec 09

mick sterbs wrote:
What will you get when Portsmouth F.C. are relegated?
10,000 more Chelsea fans.
Half PFC fans kids are Chelsea or Man Utd fans there's no loyalty down there.

Day Dreamer says...
8:30pm Wed 30 Dec 09

657 is your average attendance!

Brite Spark says...
8:37pm Wed 30 Dec 09

pfc 0-2 Arsenal already.
The Gunners are toying with pompey as a cat does with a mouse.

Day Dreamer says...
8:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Brite Spark wrote:
pfc 0-2 Arsenal already. The Gunners are toying with pompey as a cat does with a mouse.
Lovely viewing though Brite Spark, cannot wait for the poor mouse to be tossed up and down and then ....................
.......

newman76 says...
9:11pm Wed 30 Dec 09

down with the pompey scum love it!

Brite Spark says...
9:16pm Wed 30 Dec 09

0-3 at Fratton (least of their worries)

Southampton Heart says...
9:25pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Pompey are sinking fast!!!.

manc saint says...
9:51pm Wed 30 Dec 09

pompey going down the pan,ha how the tables have turned,i remember all the abuse us saints fans suffered 6-8 months ago,i have no sympathy for the inbred **** bubbles down the road,pay up pompey more like and loosing 4-1 hahahahahaha

coyr

mick sterbs says...
10:04pm Wed 30 Dec 09

lost 4-1, oh dear.

S Pance says...
10:28pm Wed 30 Dec 09

I wonder if Pompey's new financial 'guru', Daniel Azougy who is allegedly a convicted fraudster, will be able to sort this mess out?

Perhaps it was his appointment which was the final straw which spurred HMRC into action?

S Pance says...
10:38pm Wed 30 Dec 09

I have sympathy for the TRUE Pompey fans.

However, a few years ago drunken members of the 657 beat up and hospitalised a taxi driver in Salisbury. The reason? Pompey had lost a match earlier in the day.

It'd be sad to see such a club vanish but the world will be a better place without the stupid 657/Burberry girls 'supporters'.

If it were not for the ignorant, violent 'scumbags' who call themselves supporters I'd hope the club survives; as things currently stand I wish them a very rapid demise.

Day Dreamer says...
11:23pm Wed 30 Dec 09

S Pance wrote:
I have sympathy for the TRUE Pompey fans. However, a few years ago drunken members of the 657 beat up and hospitalised a taxi driver in Salisbury. The reason? Pompey had lost a match earlier in the day. It'd be sad to see such a club vanish but the world will be a better place without the stupid 657/Burberry girls 'supporters'. If it were not for the ignorant, violent 'scumbags' who call themselves supporters I'd hope the club survives; as things currently stand I wish them a very rapid demise.
They be back in Salisbury for next seasons league clash against the Whites!

clausentum says...
3:38am Thu 31 Dec 09

costa gaz wrote:
Captain Swing wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years.

My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football.

The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy.
Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)
Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ?

It's only a game.

It's not like it represents a skill.

Overpaid celebrities prancing around and sticking two fingers up to moronic fans who lap up the tame tribal warfare symbolism of it all.

What a lot of juvenile cr@p spouted by people who have no Life other than to slurp over-priced beer to enhance their beer guts and chant babble and insults on a damp, drizzly, afternoon at a football stadium populated by thicko's.

Give me the skill and craft of a solid game of snooker, any day . . . .

Brite Spark says...
4:43am Thu 31 Dec 09

Football teams do more to publicise a city (good for us - bad for them) than most other things that I can think of. Southampton as a team have had their ups and downs, the fans have stuck by them even when they started this season on minus ten in Division 3. We are proud that Saints are on the rebound, and the team reflects that this end of the M27 is a better place to be than the other end.

Bitterne Park Tim says...
9:06am Thu 31 Dec 09

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
well said Freemantle Girl. We are all losers, and those who mock Pompey's problems are blind to the slow destruction of football. What is the point of trying to get into the premiership any more when in order to stay up you have to sell your previous team and hire in an entire new squad of foreigners each of whom earns more than the total income of an average League 1 club? Where is the satisfaction of wearing some unpronouncable name on a £50 replica shirt just in order to chant "Our new Cameroon international defender's better than your recent Korean midfield loan signing?". I hope Pompey survive to battle it out with Saints next year in the most interesting and competitive league in England - the Championship.
OK.... you are correct.... the premiership is a complete waste of time, unless you have a Billionaire owner or an owner willing to go into mega debt to run the club..... it has distanced itself from the rest of the leagues not only in the UK but the rest of the World... I personally would be more than happy with Champoinship footy for life...

I do not want Pompey to go out of business.... I want them relegated and I want to be playing them in the next 24 months....

I am however over the moon that they are screwed... They have done a complete Leeds.... It is fantastic, I am sooooo pleased to see the Skates Suffer.... I will Never forget seeing those fish fiddler fans cheering on Westbrom to beat them just to make sure we go down.... cheering on the opposition to make sure thier own Team loose... Pathetic and for that reason I hope they suffer...

Sadly there is ample time for them to be saved.... such a shame!

kev63 says...
9:13am Thu 31 Dec 09

clausentum wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Captain Swing wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years. My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football. The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy. Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)
Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ? It's only a game. It's not like it represents a skill. Overpaid celebrities prancing around and sticking two fingers up to moronic fans who lap up the tame tribal warfare symbolism of it all. What a lot of juvenile cr@p spouted by people who have no Life other than to slurp over-priced beer to enhance their beer guts and chant babble and insults on a damp, drizzly, afternoon at a football stadium populated by thicko's. Give me the skill and craft of a solid game of snooker, any day . . . .
Snooker? bloody snooker..... it's like tossing off the man behind you! (a michael Mc Intyre joke not mine) So why are you even bothering to read/comment on a footbal forum?

freemantlegirl2 says...
9:18am Thu 31 Dec 09

Tye-Dye wrote:
Cheers Big Ron, I respect the views of fellow posters with the hope they dont go bust, but I personally hope they do. As you have experienced the intense hatred too it is hard to eloquent to others exactly how disturbing their hatred is, and unless you have experienced it first hand it is impossible to understand our lack of sympathy. I have never met a decent one yet, especially if you have the misfortune to work the Leigh Park area, in fact all our fellow Saints who do have sympathy for them I advise you drive to Havant and onto the said Leigh Park estate, make sure you have a Saints badge in your car window, then see how long it lasts intact. Unlike the countless skates who have them in their cars on our so called troubled estates, HUGE difference in respectful attitiude between the two City's. One team in Hampshire.....very true, very shortly ;)
A load of infantile nonsense indeed as someone said. As for not meeting a decent Pompey fan, my 19 year old son is a die-hard Saints fan, it's his passion and his closest friend is a Pompey fan, whilst they have banter and take the pee they would never dream of taking the hatred to the same levels as some of the verbally dysfunctional on here! both under 20 and still more mature than the foul-mouthed numpties who can't think of anything else to write. Also had a guy in to repair something and he had a pompey sticker in his van, we jokily gave him a mug of tea in a Saints cup and the usual jokes ensued BUT it was all good natured! There are idiots in every football stand (there are idiots everywhere in fact not just confined to football!). Oh and Claus, change the record your dreary football stereotyping is getting boring ...... BS is right, the cities' football teams are part of their heritage and pride. Just as Saints is for us. Yes, there are 'I told you sos' about Rednapp, Storey et al and they do deserve to pay for their dodgy dealings but this is a bigger problem for all English clubs and will keep happening until the FA wake up.

Tye-Dye says...
10:40am Thu 31 Dec 09

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Tye-Dye wrote:
Cheers Big Ron, I respect the views of fellow posters with the hope they dont go bust, but I personally hope they do. As you have experienced the intense hatred too it is hard to eloquent to others exactly how disturbing their hatred is, and unless you have experienced it first hand it is impossible to understand our lack of sympathy. I have never met a decent one yet, especially if you have the misfortune to work the Leigh Park area, in fact all our fellow Saints who do have sympathy for them I advise you drive to Havant and onto the said Leigh Park estate, make sure you have a Saints badge in your car window, then see how long it lasts intact. Unlike the countless skates who have them in their cars on our so called troubled estates, HUGE difference in respectful attitiude between the two City's. One team in Hampshire.....very true, very shortly ;)
A load of infantile nonsense indeed as someone said. As for not meeting a decent Pompey fan, my 19 year old son is a die-hard Saints fan, it's his passion and his closest friend is a Pompey fan, whilst they have banter and take the pee they would never dream of taking the hatred to the same levels as some of the verbally dysfunctional on here! both under 20 and still more mature than the foul-mouthed numpties who can't think of anything else to write. Also had a guy in to repair something and he had a pompey sticker in his van, we jokily gave him a mug of tea in a Saints cup and the usual jokes ensued BUT it was all good natured! There are idiots in every football stand (there are idiots everywhere in fact not just confined to football!). Oh and Claus, change the record your dreary football stereotyping is getting boring ...... BS is right, the cities' football teams are part of their heritage and pride. Just as Saints is for us. Yes, there are 'I told you sos' about Rednapp, Storey et al and they do deserve to pay for their dodgy dealings but this is a bigger problem for all English clubs and will keep happening until the FA wake up.
Get your point of view FG, you love our neighbours and thats fair enough. Its nice to see you have had a life of good experiences with the few, but I really hope you have the ability to accept others may not have and have a totally different view of them? But, as your post is a bit of a pop at those of us who do not agree with the rose tinted view on life with them, then maybe the verbally dysfunctional comment was a bit condescending, we agree to disagree is far more articulate and less aggressive, I hope you understand what I am saying? As for your last paragraph, totally agree about the F.A need to get a grip and quick, there are some clubs out there who are ticking time bombs, and not little clubs either, but the Prem as we all know only care for themselves, and really dont have to concern themselves with clubs failing. The skates going into liquidation could be the first of many.

Saint Rob says...
10:42am Thu 31 Dec 09

POMPEY ARE GOING DOWN WITH NO MONEY IN THE BANK
NO MONEY IN THE BANK
NO MONEY IN THE BANK!!!!

lordshillsaint says...
11:44am Thu 31 Dec 09

so the blue few will become the blue who,hahahahahahaha,h
appy new year saints fans everywhere,2010 promising to be a great year!

costa gaz says...
12:13pm Thu 31 Dec 09

It's all ok Peter Storrie has said there is no winding up order, and if there was one, the debt would be paid before the court date, the players wages will hopefully be paid and the transfer embargo will soon be lifted.
Bet all pompeys fans are relieved now eh?
"business as usual" (peter storrie)
Then, with a puff of blue smoke, the fairies at the bottom of the garden dissappeared never to be seen again.
The end

allsaintsnocurves says...
12:14pm Thu 31 Dec 09

Pompey only have themselves to blame for this! Paying the sort of wages they were with the small ground was stupid. Harry wanted to buy success and he did in the short term but it was always going to end in tears with no infrastructure.

Southampton always had the infrastructure and got the new stadium but made the same mistakes with the running of the club although this was mainly to do with the in-fighting at the top.

Pompey now needs to strip itself bare like Saints before it and prepare itself for a long hard slog to get back up again!

clausentum says...
12:30pm Thu 31 Dec 09

kev63 wrote:
clausentum wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Captain Swing wrote:
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years. My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football. The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy. Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)
Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ? It's only a game. It's not like it represents a skill. Overpaid celebrities prancing around and sticking two fingers up to moronic fans who lap up the tame tribal warfare symbolism of it all. What a lot of juvenile cr@p spouted by people who have no Life other than to slurp over-priced beer to enhance their beer guts and chant babble and insults on a damp, drizzly, afternoon at a football stadium populated by thicko's. Give me the skill and craft of a solid game of snooker, any day . . . .
Snooker? bloody snooker..... it's like tossing off the man behind you! (a michael Mc Intyre joke not mine) So why are you even bothering to read/comment on a footbal forum?
Your quote:

" So why are you even bothering to read/comment on a footbal forum?"

Because I can.

Gather together with 99 of your footie fanantics ( "we hate the other lot" mentality ) and you have a combined IQ of 100.

Simples.

costa gaz says...
12:53pm Thu 31 Dec 09

Clausentum, what is your point exactly? If you want to join the discussion please try to be constructive, because being clever and funny is obviously not working for you.
HNY

Hustler123 says...
2:44pm Thu 31 Dec 09

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Pompey only have themselves to blame for this! Paying the sort of wages they were with the small ground was stupid. Harry wanted to buy success and he did in the short term but it was always going to end in tears with no infrastructure.

Southampton always had the infrastructure and got the new stadium but made the same mistakes with the running of the club although this was mainly to do with the in-fighting at the top.

Pompey now needs to strip itself bare like Saints before it and prepare itself for a long hard slog to get back up again!
Got to agree with you there and the truth is, the way to stay in the top flight on a small budget and a small ground is Saints (up til you moved to SMS, of course). We didn't take heed and this has been coming for a long time.

Still, I noted at a bookie's in Southampton in August that odds of 66/1 were being offered on us going down and Saints being promoted. I wish I'd taken that... ;)

Happy New Year!

clausentum says...
2:45pm Thu 31 Dec 09

costa gaz wrote:
Clausentum, what is your point exactly? If you want to join the discussion please try to be constructive, because being clever and funny is obviously not working for you.
HNY
"Clausentum, what is your point exactly? "

Why do I need a point?

Why do I need to be constructive?

Why do you think you have any influence on me being able to join the discussion?

This is an open public forum for anyone to comment or make an observation or express their views on any article. The forum is managed and controlled by the newspaper, not by you nor any other poster who disagrees with what a contributor says or the way they say it.

If I need a "point", then it an abhorence to the underlying naffness and silly tribalism mentality of people who can think ( and believe ) in terms expressed by your comment:

Quote:

"I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years . . . . The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them."

The use of the word "hate" illustrates the infantile nature of fanatical football supporters and alas for some it finds physical nasty expression and action.

Hustler123 says...
2:47pm Thu 31 Dec 09

PS Even if we don't have a staggeringly-skilled genius in our ranks...

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...
5:41pm Thu 31 Dec 09

Portsmouth Football club throughout their history have stumbled from one financial crisis to another. They owe money all over the place and it is not the sort of debt that MUFC and LFC have this is money owed to other clubs, HMRC, local businesses around the area as well as loans and other major debts.

They have some of the nastiest fans in the country and they in delight in their reputation. Their have one of theyoungest charged football holligans on record. They overspend and do not care about the consequences.

PFC is not a club I would say is representative of football and does not deserve the suggestion that their survival is for the good of football.

I challenge anyone to give three good reasons why they should be allowed to continue as they are.

As far as I am concerned they are getting all they deserve.

Remember the taunts, the cruel jokes, the mocking over our relegation, ridiculing us during administration, the points deduction following our second relegation, remember the rioting, the brick throwing, their downright nastiness.

Good riddance to them I say football will be all the better without them.

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