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4:40pm Wednesday 30th December 2009 in News
By Jon Reeve, Education Reporter
A WINDING-UP petition has been served against Portsmouth Football Club - but the Fratton Park outfit has denied it.
The move could see Pompey entered into compulsory liquidation if it cannot settle its debts by the time of a court hearing in early February.
But in a statement released this afternoon, the club insisted it is in negotiations with the Inland Revenue over VAT payments, and it has not received a formal winding-up petition.
That is despite the High Court in London confirming HM Revenue and Customs had indeed served a notice against Pompey.
Saints' beleaguered south coast rivals are currently the subject of a transfer embargo by the Premier League because Pompey have failed to make payments to other clubs as instalments on player transfers.
The club, which is currently bottom of top flight and four points from safety, is believed to owe at least £10m to other clubs, including Chelsea, Tottenham, and cash-strapped Watford.
Players and officials have also been made to wait for their wages twice this season because there was not enough money in the bank to pay them.
Despite paying other creditors, including South Africa-based Standard Bank through the proceeds raised from the sale of several big-name players including Jermaine Defoe, Glen Johnson, Peter Crouch and Niko Krancjar, Pompey are also believed to still owe around £30m to former owner Sacha Gaydamak in outstanding loans.
There have also been problems relating to outstanding tax bills at the club, which has been sold twice already this year.
Sulaiman Al Fahim bought Pompey from Gaydamak in the summer, only to then sell 90 per cent of his shareholding to Saudi businessman Ali Al Faraj in October, after failing to deliver on promises to bring in new investment.
Although a payment of £2m was said to have been made earlier this month, it appears patience at HMRC has finally run out, with a further £1.5m reportedly remaining unpaid.
It presented a winding-up petition on December 23, but a full court hearing will not take place until February 10.
If the club is unable to strengthen its financial position by then, it could be declared bankrupt.
The transfer window, which opens on Friday, represents the best opportunity to help the struggling club raise some vital funds.
Star players David James, Younes Kaboul and Kevin Prince-Boateng have all been linked with moves away from Portsmouth in a bid to help bring in much-needed cash.
But their departure would be another major blow to manager Avram Grant's hopes of saving his side from relegation, at a time when Pompey are set to lose four more key players for up to a month during the African Cup of Nations.
But in a statement released late this afternoon, the club insisted it hasn't actually received the order.
"Portsmouth Football Club has not been formally served with a winding up petition and is shocked and surprised this action has been taken in respect of VAT, PAYE and National Insurance Contributions which either have been, or are about to be paid, or are disputed," it read.
"The club is disputing the VAT amount outstanding and has formally notified HMRC of this. We expect HMRC to withdraw their demands forthwith.
"Otherwise we anticipate a hearing being held in early January 2010 during which we will request that the High Court order HMRC to withdraw their demands.
Since the takeover by Ali Al Faraj in October 2009, extreme efforts have been made to reach payment arrangements with HMRC to allow the owner time to deal with inherited debt.
"To date the new owner has injected a total of £9.7m of new funds to HMRC - £5.7m paid and security to the value of £4M.
"In such a tough economic environment the club finds it hard to understand this action by HMRC.
"It is well known that the business has been in a difficult position following former owners’ decisions and the current owner is committed to resolving this and moving forward."
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Sholing
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Andy Locks Heath
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costa gaz
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Captain Swing
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costa gaz wrote:You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.
ramptonfromsouthampton
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Condor Man
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Day Dreamer
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Tye-Dye
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GHamilton
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4:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09
freemantlegirl2 wrote:You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.
How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.
rjfmusic
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5:05pm Wed 30 Dec 09
GHamilton
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5:19pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Tye-Dye
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5:43pm Wed 30 Dec 09
GHamilton wrote:Your not getting old GH, I have the misfortune to work with quite a few of them in Hedge End, and my totally anti stance comes from the last 3 years of abuse, I am not exactly a shy wallflower being 6'3 and 15 stone, but the stick that has been dished was not good old fashioned banter, it was out and out hatred of anything to do with Southampton, and all its people. Their rapid debt inducing rise was the release valve they needed after 30 years of being in the shadow, and boy did they dish it, more than one occasion came to blows. Please forgive me for not showing an ounce of sympathy, I have nothing but respect for any other club, fans, City etc, but for them nothing but a intense desire to see them liquidated, they bought it on themselves, now they pay...or not as the case is.
Just read through some of he comments on hear, and some are right on the money but others are alien to me. Being a Scot, i have relations who relations who support Rangers, and others who are Celtic to the bone, i dont think there is rivalry anywhere in football as bitter as between the old firm, but neither set of fans would want the other club to fold, it's what makes life in football what it is, the sheer joy in you when your most bitter rivals get beat or relagated. Can't understand people wanting another club to go bust,.... who knows i might just be getting old!!
saintjohn29
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costa gaz
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Captain Swing wrote:I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years.
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
mick sterbs
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6:06pm Wed 30 Dec 09
bigronthestaff
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6:11pm Wed 30 Dec 09
mick sterbs wrote:That's very, very, 'laugh-out-loud' funny!! =)
pompey have as much chance of staying up as an erection in susan boyles bedroom.....
costa gaz
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6:14pm Wed 30 Dec 09
forest hump
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6:36pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Andy Locks Heath wrote:ALH, there is a real problem with the English Premier League. Firstly, It does not represent England. And before all of you naive anti racists start yelling, I am NOT a person who dislikes foriegners. Secondly, if you look at the proportion of non-English squad palyers, it is detrimental to the National game. It seems now that pulling on an England shirt does not have the same motivation of 40-50 years ago. It's all about clubs fulfilling their needs. You are right, the Championship provides far better entertainment than the EPL. Money(allegedly) buys success. We are now talking business before sporting principles. I hope for everyone, Portsmouth prove themselves. Let's stop this childish banter and wish them well.
well said Freemantle Girl. We are all losers, and those who mock Pompey's problems are blind to the slow destruction of football. What is the point of trying to get into the premiership any more when in order to stay up you have to sell your previous team and hire in an entire new squad of foreigners each of whom earns more than the total income of an average League 1 club? Where is the satisfaction of wearing some unpronouncable name on a £50 replica shirt just in order to chant "Our new Cameroon international defender's better than your recent Korean midfield loan signing?". I hope Pompey survive to battle it out with Saints next year in the most interesting and competitive league in England - the Championship.
Brite Spark
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6:42pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Tye-Dye
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saintpeter48
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Day Dreamer wrote:well said day dreamer. Harrr Redcrap has got a lot to answer for in all of this, he spent all of their money, bought the FA cup then f**ked off. he's ok when he's spending other peoples money, he's a Judas, a twitching one at that. Not a lot of sympathy for them though, they showed little for us when we were struggling this time last year, hate to see them go under, just relegate them a couple of divisions to shut the smelly f**kers up, crap ground, crap town, crap team, crap supporters, Krap Nott Arf!!!!
Wait till they interview Arry...."shame real shame, great club, great fans, i got some real friends down there, real football people. This situation is down to non football people getting involved in a proper football club, cannot believe it really very sad very sad. I had some great times down there" Puzzled look from HR etc.....What he should be saying is "I ripped the ar$e out of the club along with Storrie"
spratt
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7:01pm Wed 30 Dec 09
GHamilton wrote:Have to agree with these posts. Club rivalry is natural but the foul nonsense and abuse that appears in these threads shows the worst side of football. We love our respective Clubs but first and foremost we love FOOTBALL and should have a mutual respect for all others who feel the same - no matter which Club they support, As freemantle girl says we are all seeing the catostrophic result big money is having on our game. Pompey is an old Club with a proud history and. for the moment at least, are still alive and in the top flight - not like us in Div 1. So although a dedicated Saints fan I would hate to see them go. Same goes for our other South Coast Clubs.
freemantlegirl2 wrote: How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.
Brite Spark
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mick sterbs
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mick sterbs
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mick sterbs
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Tye-Dye
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7:35pm Wed 30 Dec 09
spratt wrote:Entitled to your opinion spratt, just like us who wish them gone are entitled to ours, if you call a alternative opinion of yours "foul nonsense and abuse" however, then please accept my view of your sycophantic diatribe as frankly garbage, just an opinion you understand.
GHamilton wrote:Have to agree with these posts. Club rivalry is natural but the foul nonsense and abuse that appears in these threads shows the worst side of football. We love our respective Clubs but first and foremost we love FOOTBALL and should have a mutual respect for all others who feel the same - no matter which Club they support, As freemantle girl says we are all seeing the catostrophic result big money is having on our game. Pompey is an old Club with a proud history and. for the moment at least, are still alive and in the top flight - not like us in Div 1. So although a dedicated Saints fan I would hate to see them go. Same goes for our other South Coast Clubs.
freemantlegirl2 wrote: How many more English clubs does this have to happen to before the FA wake up and smell the coffee? Football only benefits a greedy few these days, as usual the fans are left reeling. I'm a Saints fan but this is terrible news for football in the South.You are absolutely spot on, been a saints fan for 42 years but this gives me no pleasure reading this at all....i hope they manage to pull through...it was n't so long ago people thought it would happen to us.
sfc4lyf
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7:54pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Brite Spark
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mick sterbs wrote:Half PFC fans kids are Chelsea or Man Utd fans there's no loyalty down there.
What will you get when Portsmouth F.C. are relegated?
10,000 more Chelsea fans.
Day Dreamer
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Brite Spark
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Day Dreamer
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8:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09
Brite Spark wrote:Lovely viewing though Brite Spark, cannot wait for the poor mouse to be tossed up and down and then ....................
pfc 0-2 Arsenal already. The Gunners are toying with pompey as a cat does with a mouse.
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Brite Spark
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Southampton Heart
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manc saint
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mick sterbs
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S Pance
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S Pance
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Day Dreamer
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S Pance wrote:They be back in Salisbury for next seasons league clash against the Whites!
I have sympathy for the TRUE Pompey fans. However, a few years ago drunken members of the 657 beat up and hospitalised a taxi driver in Salisbury. The reason? Pompey had lost a match earlier in the day. It'd be sad to see such a club vanish but the world will be a better place without the stupid 657/Burberry girls 'supporters'. If it were not for the ignorant, violent 'scumbags' who call themselves supporters I'd hope the club survives; as things currently stand I wish them a very rapid demise.
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3:38am Thu 31 Dec 09
costa gaz wrote:Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ?
Captain Swing wrote:I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years.
costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football.
The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy.
Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)
Brite Spark
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4:43am Thu 31 Dec 09
Bitterne Park Tim
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Andy Locks Heath wrote:OK.... you are correct.... the premiership is a complete waste of time, unless you have a Billionaire owner or an owner willing to go into mega debt to run the club..... it has distanced itself from the rest of the leagues not only in the UK but the rest of the World... I personally would be more than happy with Champoinship footy for life...
well said Freemantle Girl. We are all losers, and those who mock Pompey's problems are blind to the slow destruction of football. What is the point of trying to get into the premiership any more when in order to stay up you have to sell your previous team and hire in an entire new squad of foreigners each of whom earns more than the total income of an average League 1 club? Where is the satisfaction of wearing some unpronouncable name on a £50 replica shirt just in order to chant "Our new Cameroon international defender's better than your recent Korean midfield loan signing?". I hope Pompey survive to battle it out with Saints next year in the most interesting and competitive league in England - the Championship.
kev63
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9:13am Thu 31 Dec 09
clausentum wrote:Snooker? bloody snooker..... it's like tossing off the man behind you! (a michael Mc Intyre joke not mine) So why are you even bothering to read/comment on a footbal forum?
costa gaz wrote:Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ? It's only a game. It's not like it represents a skill. Overpaid celebrities prancing around and sticking two fingers up to moronic fans who lap up the tame tribal warfare symbolism of it all. What a lot of juvenile cr@p spouted by people who have no Life other than to slurp over-priced beer to enhance their beer guts and chant babble and insults on a damp, drizzly, afternoon at a football stadium populated by thicko's. Give me the skill and craft of a solid game of snooker, any day . . . .Captain Swing wrote:I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years. My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football. The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy. Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
freemantlegirl2
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9:18am Thu 31 Dec 09
Tye-Dye wrote:A load of infantile nonsense indeed as someone said. As for not meeting a decent Pompey fan, my 19 year old son is a die-hard Saints fan, it's his passion and his closest friend is a Pompey fan, whilst they have banter and take the pee they would never dream of taking the hatred to the same levels as some of the verbally dysfunctional on here! both under 20 and still more mature than the foul-mouthed numpties who can't think of anything else to write. Also had a guy in to repair something and he had a pompey sticker in his van, we jokily gave him a mug of tea in a Saints cup and the usual jokes ensued BUT it was all good natured! There are idiots in every football stand (there are idiots everywhere in fact not just confined to football!). Oh and Claus, change the record your dreary football stereotyping is getting boring ...... BS is right, the cities' football teams are part of their heritage and pride. Just as Saints is for us. Yes, there are 'I told you sos' about Rednapp, Storey et al and they do deserve to pay for their dodgy dealings but this is a bigger problem for all English clubs and will keep happening until the FA wake up.
Cheers Big Ron, I respect the views of fellow posters with the hope they dont go bust, but I personally hope they do. As you have experienced the intense hatred too it is hard to eloquent to others exactly how disturbing their hatred is, and unless you have experienced it first hand it is impossible to understand our lack of sympathy. I have never met a decent one yet, especially if you have the misfortune to work the Leigh Park area, in fact all our fellow Saints who do have sympathy for them I advise you drive to Havant and onto the said Leigh Park estate, make sure you have a Saints badge in your car window, then see how long it lasts intact. Unlike the countless skates who have them in their cars on our so called troubled estates, HUGE difference in respectful attitiude between the two City's. One team in Hampshire.....very true, very shortly ;)
Tye-Dye
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10:40am Thu 31 Dec 09
freemantlegirl2 wrote:Get your point of view FG, you love our neighbours and thats fair enough. Its nice to see you have had a life of good experiences with the few, but I really hope you have the ability to accept others may not have and have a totally different view of them? But, as your post is a bit of a pop at those of us who do not agree with the rose tinted view on life with them, then maybe the verbally dysfunctional comment was a bit condescending, we agree to disagree is far more articulate and less aggressive, I hope you understand what I am saying? As for your last paragraph, totally agree about the F.A need to get a grip and quick, there are some clubs out there who are ticking time bombs, and not little clubs either, but the Prem as we all know only care for themselves, and really dont have to concern themselves with clubs failing. The skates going into liquidation could be the first of many.
Tye-Dye wrote:A load of infantile nonsense indeed as someone said. As for not meeting a decent Pompey fan, my 19 year old son is a die-hard Saints fan, it's his passion and his closest friend is a Pompey fan, whilst they have banter and take the pee they would never dream of taking the hatred to the same levels as some of the verbally dysfunctional on here! both under 20 and still more mature than the foul-mouthed numpties who can't think of anything else to write. Also had a guy in to repair something and he had a pompey sticker in his van, we jokily gave him a mug of tea in a Saints cup and the usual jokes ensued BUT it was all good natured! There are idiots in every football stand (there are idiots everywhere in fact not just confined to football!). Oh and Claus, change the record your dreary football stereotyping is getting boring ...... BS is right, the cities' football teams are part of their heritage and pride. Just as Saints is for us. Yes, there are 'I told you sos' about Rednapp, Storey et al and they do deserve to pay for their dodgy dealings but this is a bigger problem for all English clubs and will keep happening until the FA wake up.
Cheers Big Ron, I respect the views of fellow posters with the hope they dont go bust, but I personally hope they do. As you have experienced the intense hatred too it is hard to eloquent to others exactly how disturbing their hatred is, and unless you have experienced it first hand it is impossible to understand our lack of sympathy. I have never met a decent one yet, especially if you have the misfortune to work the Leigh Park area, in fact all our fellow Saints who do have sympathy for them I advise you drive to Havant and onto the said Leigh Park estate, make sure you have a Saints badge in your car window, then see how long it lasts intact. Unlike the countless skates who have them in their cars on our so called troubled estates, HUGE difference in respectful attitiude between the two City's. One team in Hampshire.....very true, very shortly ;)
Saint Rob
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lordshillsaint
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costa gaz
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allsaintsnocurves
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clausentum
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kev63 wrote:Your quote:
clausentum wrote:Snooker? bloody snooker..... it's like tossing off the man behind you! (a michael Mc Intyre joke not mine) So why are you even bothering to read/comment on a footbal forum?
costa gaz wrote:Are you 10 years old or an adult idiot with the IQ of a 10 year old ? It's only a game. It's not like it represents a skill. Overpaid celebrities prancing around and sticking two fingers up to moronic fans who lap up the tame tribal warfare symbolism of it all. What a lot of juvenile cr@p spouted by people who have no Life other than to slurp over-priced beer to enhance their beer guts and chant babble and insults on a damp, drizzly, afternoon at a football stadium populated by thicko's. Give me the skill and craft of a solid game of snooker, any day . . . .Captain Swing wrote:I do know this, I love my team and hate our rivals, have done for 40 odd years. My guess is, you're not from these parts are you? This a different kind of rivalry, it's more than just football. The thing is that they hate us even more than we hate them, so how people can have any sympathy. Only my opinion (I know a fair bit about football as well)costa gaz wrote: Andy locks heath. Support your team, hate the rest, detest your rivals. The way it was, is, and always will be. There wasn't too much sympathy from the smelly end of the M27 6-8 months ago, they were praying that we would have no club to support. Don't have one ounce of sympathy for them, they will survive as a lower league club just like we did. Just enjoy the demise of pfc like they did to us.You really don't know anything about football or sporting rivalry do you costa gaz?
costa gaz
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12:53pm Thu 31 Dec 09
Hustler123
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allsaintsnocurves wrote:Got to agree with you there and the truth is, the way to stay in the top flight on a small budget and a small ground is Saints (up til you moved to SMS, of course). We didn't take heed and this has been coming for a long time.
Pompey only have themselves to blame for this! Paying the sort of wages they were with the small ground was stupid. Harry wanted to buy success and he did in the short term but it was always going to end in tears with no infrastructure.
Southampton always had the infrastructure and got the new stadium but made the same mistakes with the running of the club although this was mainly to do with the in-fighting at the top.
Pompey now needs to strip itself bare like Saints before it and prepare itself for a long hard slog to get back up again!
clausentum
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2:45pm Thu 31 Dec 09
costa gaz wrote:"Clausentum, what is your point exactly? "
Clausentum, what is your point exactly? If you want to join the discussion please try to be constructive, because being clever and funny is obviously not working for you.
HNY
Hustler123
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Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
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