Sentence put off for soldier (From This is Hampshire)

Bring back National Service - oh, hang on ... ... !

I know he obviously stole money but come on a total of £8.60....

Does it really need thousands of pounds of Taxpayers money to be spend with court cases??

There should be powers available for a simple answer of just taking this small amount of money straight out of his income, after all even with interest charges it would not reach £10.. ! ! ! !

Mind you it seems the british system typically spends a pound to save a penny

Putting your life on the line in the military is laudable and we owe these people a debt of gratitude, but is active military service a legitimate reason for differential sentencing?

I think not.

A robbery is a robbery is a robbery.

Robberies claim victims who have been hurt. The monetary value of a robbery is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fear and hurt inflicted on the victim.

This Judge's sentencing appears focussed on the needs and circumstances of the robber, not on the victim. This is ar@e about face.

This Judge's sentencing practice is dubious because it opens the floodgates to a myriad of claims for differential sentencing by basically anyone. And where do you go from there? Deep into the mishmash World of all sorts of oddball, eccentric decisions by sentencing Judges.

Judge's should stick to the notion of the punishment fitting the crime and impose swift punishment there and then and remain within the conventions and the parameters of established sentencing practice.

This Judge should have refrained from publicly wanting to appear to be " a good guy" and promoting such a self-image.

Did he steal a pack of sweeties too... What a waste of time and energy, can't believe this has even hit the news..!

sotonbusdriver wrote:
I know he obviously stole money but come on a total of £8.60....

Does it really need thousands of pounds of Taxpayers money to be spend with court cases??

There should be powers available for a simple answer of just taking this small amount of money straight out of his income, after all even with interest charges it would not reach £10.. ! ! ! !

Mind you it seems the british system typically spends a pound to save a penny

Your quote:

"I know he obviously stole money but come on a total of £8.60...."

If your grannie was robbed of this sum of money from her purse would you still view that as an insignificant amount?

Or, would you view the act of robbery ( with it's intimidation, associated threat of violence and long-lasting damage caused by feeling and reliving fear ), as significant, and a terrible experience endured by your grannie?

The criminal justice system should concentrate on the needs of victims and not on the needs of those who attack them.

silent one wrote:
Did he steal a pack of sweeties too... What a waste of time and energy, can't believe this has even hit the news..!

You appear to be caught up with the monetary value of this crime and seem to excuse, minimise and condone robbery.

Would you hold the same view if it was your mum who was robbed and had this amount of money stolen from her, by threat of violence?

can we now send all the robbers over to afghanistan to fight this will free some spaces in jail

clausentum wrote:
Putting your life on the line in the military is laudable and we owe these people a debt of gratitude, but is active military service a legitimate reason for differential sentencing?

I think not.

A robbery is a robbery is a robbery.

Robberies claim victims who have been hurt. The monetary value of a robbery is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fear and hurt inflicted on the victim.

This Judge's sentencing appears focussed on the needs and circumstances of the robber, not on the victim. This is ar@e about face.

This Judge's sentencing practice is dubious because it opens the floodgates to a myriad of claims for differential sentencing by basically anyone. And where do you go from there? Deep into the mishmash World of all sorts of oddball, eccentric decisions by sentencing Judges.

Judge's should stick to the notion of the punishment fitting the crime and impose swift punishment there and then and remain within the conventions and the parameters of established sentencing practice.

This Judge should have refrained from publicly wanting to appear to be " a good guy" and promoting such a self-image.

Clausentum, his sentence was deferred not differed,
he'll be sentenced upon his return as indicated in the article.
de·ferred – adjective
1.postponed or delayed.
2.suspended or withheld for or until a certain time or event: a deferred payment; deferred taxes.
3.classified as temporarily exempt from induction into military service.

Not

dif·fer – verb (used without object)
1.to be unlike, dissimilar, or distinct in nature or qualities (often fol. by from): The two writers differ greatly in their perceptions of the world. Each writer's style differs from that of another.
2.to disagree in opinion, belief, etc.; be at variance; disagree (often fol. by with or from): His business partner always differs with him.
3.Obsolete. to dispute; quarrel.

Give me strength

The point here is a robbery is a robbery, full stop. The report does not indicate the level of violence and intimidation used which will materialy effect sentence levels. In my opinion, the Judge should have sentenced him and assuming it was not custody suspended the senteance until his return from active duty.

Is there a typo in here? Surely he is not in crown court over nicking £3 off his mate... seriously?

60p?

why didnt they just make him pay it back with interest and damages?

call it £100 and no more said?

... Sorry did i miss that he donned a balaclava and a 12 bore and subjected his terrified victims to a night of torture for the huge amount of £8.60....!!

I just think that the Echo should be using their time to report on more serious issues than a little squabble between friends. Yes theft is theft and I am not defending that my post was ridicule to the Echo. Oh and my Mum dosen't carry cash..!

What a bunch of idiots - and this guy is going to be sent to represent the UK in a war zone?

Retreat to Gandamack wrote:

clausentum wrote:
Putting your life on the line in the military is laudable and we owe these people a debt of gratitude, but is active military service a legitimate reason for differential sentencing?

I think not.

A robbery is a robbery is a robbery.

Robberies claim victims who have been hurt. The monetary value of a robbery is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fear and hurt inflicted on the victim.

This Judge's sentencing appears focussed on the needs and circumstances of the robber, not on the victim. This is ar@e about face.

This Judge's sentencing practice is dubious because it opens the floodgates to a myriad of claims for differential sentencing by basically anyone. And where do you go from there? Deep into the mishmash World of all sorts of oddball, eccentric decisions by sentencing Judges.

Judge's should stick to the notion of the punishment fitting the crime and impose swift punishment there and then and remain within the conventions and the parameters of established sentencing practice.

This Judge should have refrained from publicly wanting to appear to be " a good guy" and promoting such a self-image.

Clausentum, his sentence was deferred not differed,
he'll be sentenced upon his return as indicated in the article.
de·ferred – adjective
1.postponed or delayed.
2.suspended or withheld for or until a certain time or event: a deferred payment; deferred taxes.
3.classified as temporarily exempt from induction into military service.

Not

dif·fer – verb (used without object)
1.to be unlike, dissimilar, or distinct in nature or qualities (often fol. by from): The two writers differ greatly in their perceptions of the world. Each writer's style differs from that of another.
2.to disagree in opinion, belief, etc.; be at variance; disagree (often fol. by with or from): His business partner always differs with him.
3.Obsolete. to dispute; quarrel.

Give me strength

I know what deferred means.

I know what differentially means.

I know what a smartar@e is.

Keep on retreating . . .

Why should a military person be treated or sentenced differentially ( i.e. differently compared to a civilian in a civilian court)? He is no more, no less a criminal.

Do we want criminals, robbers, serving in our military? Members of the military are our ambassadors when overseas and represent our Country. Shouldn't they uphold the best of our values? Robbers do not represent the best of our values.

dif·fer·en·tial�
�  
–adjective
1.
of or pertaining to difference or diversity.
2.
constituting a difference; distinguishing; distinctive: a differential feature.
3.
exhibiting or depending upon a difference or distinction.
4.
Physics, Machinery. pertaining to or involving the difference of two or more motions, forces, etc.
5.
Mathematics. pertaining to or involving a derivative or derivatives.
–noun
6.
a difference or the amount of difference, as in rate, cost, quantity, degree, or quality, between things that are comparable.
7.
Also called differential gear Machinery. an epicyclic train of gears designed to permit two or more shafts to rotate at different speeds, as a set of gears in an automobile permitting the rear wheels to be driven at different speeds when the car is turning.
8.
Mathematics.
a.
a function of two variables that is obtained from a given function, y = f(x), and that expresses the approximate increment in the given function as the derivative of the function times the increment in the independent variable, written as dy = f′(x)dx.
b.
any generalization of this function to higher dimensions.
9.
Commerce.
a.
the difference involved in a differential rate.
b.
differential rate
10.
Physics. the quantitative difference between two or more forces, motions, etc.: a pressure differential.
Origin:
1640–50; < ML differentiālis, equiv. to differenti(a) difference+ ālis -al

—Related forms
dif·fer·en·tial·
ly, adverb

keep on retreating . . . . .

clausentum wrote:

Retreat to Gandamack wrote:

clausentum wrote: Putting your life on the line in the military is laudable and we owe these people a debt of gratitude, but is active military service a legitimate reason for differential sentencing? I think not. A robbery is a robbery is a robbery. Robberies claim victims who have been hurt. The monetary value of a robbery is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fear and hurt inflicted on the victim. This Judge's sentencing appears focussed on the needs and circumstances of the robber, not on the victim. This is ar@e about face. This Judge's sentencing practice is dubious because it opens the floodgates to a myriad of claims for differential sentencing by basically anyone. And where do you go from there? Deep into the mishmash World of all sorts of oddball, eccentric decisions by sentencing Judges. Judge's should stick to the notion of the punishment fitting the crime and impose swift punishment there and then and remain within the conventions and the parameters of established sentencing practice. This Judge should have refrained from publicly wanting to appear to be " a good guy" and promoting such a self-image.

Clausentum, his sentence was deferred not differed, he'll be sentenced upon his return as indicated in the article. de·ferred – adjective 1.postponed or delayed. 2.suspended or withheld for or until a certain time or event: a deferred payment; deferred taxes. 3.classified as temporarily exempt from induction into military service. Not dif·fer – verb (used without object) 1.to be unlike, dissimilar, or distinct in nature or qualities (often fol. by from): The two writers differ greatly in their perceptions of the world. Each writer's style differs from that of another. 2.to disagree in opinion, belief, etc.; be at variance; disagree (often fol. by with or from): His business partner always differs with him. 3.Obsolete. to dispute; quarrel. Give me strength

I know what deferred means. I know what differentially means. I know what a smartar@e is. Keep on retreating . . . Why should a military person be treated or sentenced differentially ( i.e. differently compared to a civilian in a civilian court)? He is no more, no less a criminal. Do we want criminals, robbers, serving in our military? Members of the military are our ambassadors when overseas and represent our Country. Shouldn't they uphold the best of our values? Robbers do not represent the best of our values. dif·fer·en·tial�
���   –adjective 1. of or pertaining to difference or diversity. 2. constituting a difference; distinguishing; distinctive: a differential feature. 3. exhibiting or depending upon a difference or distinction. 4. Physics, Machinery. pertaining to or involving the difference of two or more motions, forces, etc. 5. Mathematics. pertaining to or involving a derivative or derivatives. –noun 6. a difference or the amount of difference, as in rate, cost, quantity, degree, or quality, between things that are comparable. 7. Also called differential gear Machinery. an epicyclic train of gears designed to permit two or more shafts to rotate at different speeds, as a set of gears in an automobile permitting the rear wheels to be driven at different speeds when the car is turning. 8. Mathematics. a. a function of two variables that is obtained from a given function, y = f(x), and that expresses the approximate increment in the given function as the derivative of the function times the increment in the independent variable, written as dy = f′(x)dx. b. any generalization of this function to higher dimensions. 9. Commerce. a. the difference involved in a differential rate. b. differential rate 10. Physics. the quantitative difference between two or more forces, motions, etc.: a pressure differential. Origin: 1640–50; &lt; ML differentiālis, equiv. to differenti(a) difference+ ālis -al —Related forms dif·fer·en·tial· ly, adverb keep on retreating . . . . .

WOW. I learnt more here than at school.
Keep it up lads

hulla baloo wrote:

clausentum wrote:

Retreat to Gandamack wrote:

clausentum wrote: Putting your life on the line in the military is laudable and we owe these people a debt of gratitude, but is active military service a legitimate reason for differential sentencing? I think not. A robbery is a robbery is a robbery. Robberies claim victims who have been hurt. The monetary value of a robbery is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fear and hurt inflicted on the victim. This Judge's sentencing appears focussed on the needs and circumstances of the robber, not on the victim. This is ar@e about face. This Judge's sentencing practice is dubious because it opens the floodgates to a myriad of claims for differential sentencing by basically anyone. And where do you go from there? Deep into the mishmash World of all sorts of oddball, eccentric decisions by sentencing Judges. Judge's should stick to the notion of the punishment fitting the crime and impose swift punishment there and then and remain within the conventions and the parameters of established sentencing practice. This Judge should have refrained from publicly wanting to appear to be " a good guy" and promoting such a self-image.

Clausentum, his sentence was deferred not differed, he'll be sentenced upon his return as indicated in the article. de·ferred – adjective 1.postponed or delayed. 2.suspended or withheld for or until a certain time or event: a deferred payment; deferred taxes. 3.classified as temporarily exempt from induction into military service. Not dif·fer – verb (used without object) 1.to be unlike, dissimilar, or distinct in nature or qualities (often fol. by from): The two writers differ greatly in their perceptions of the world. Each writer's style differs from that of another. 2.to disagree in opinion, belief, etc.; be at variance; disagree (often fol. by with or from): His business partner always differs with him. 3.Obsolete. to dispute; quarrel. Give me strength

I know what deferred means. I know what differentially means. I know what a smartar@e is. Keep on retreating . . . Why should a military person be treated or sentenced differentially ( i.e. differently compared to a civilian in a civilian court)? He is no more, no less a criminal. Do we want criminals, robbers, serving in our military? Members of the military are our ambassadors when overseas and represent our Country. Shouldn't they uphold the best of our values? Robbers do not represent the best of our values. dif·fer·en·tial�
�
���   –adjective 1. of or pertaining to difference or diversity. 2. constituting a difference; distinguishing; distinctive: a differential feature. 3. exhibiting or depending upon a difference or distinction. 4. Physics, Machinery. pertaining to or involving the difference of two or more motions, forces, etc. 5. Mathematics. pertaining to or involving a derivative or derivatives. –noun 6. a difference or the amount of difference, as in rate, cost, quantity, degree, or quality, between things that are comparable. 7. Also called differential gear Machinery. an epicyclic train of gears designed to permit two or more shafts to rotate at different speeds, as a set of gears in an automobile permitting the rear wheels to be driven at different speeds when the car is turning. 8. Mathematics. a. a function of two variables that is obtained from a given function, y = f(x), and that expresses the approximate increment in the given function as the derivative of the function times the increment in the independent variable, written as dy = f′(x)dx. b. any generalization of this function to higher dimensions. 9. Commerce. a. the difference involved in a differential rate. b. differential rate 10. Physics. the quantitative difference between two or more forces, motions, etc.: a pressure differential. Origin: 1640–50; &lt; ML differentiālis, equiv. to differenti(a) difference+ ālis -al —Related forms dif·fer·en·tial· ly, adverb keep on retreating . . . . .

WOW. I learnt more here than at school.
Keep it up lads

Just trying to share the wealth, share the love . . . . ;-)

silent one wrote:
... Sorry did i miss that he donned a balaclava and a 12 bore and subjected his terrified victims to a night of torture for the huge amount of £8.60....!!

I just think that the Echo should be using their time to report on more serious issues than a little squabble between friends. Yes theft is theft and I am not defending that my post was ridicule to the Echo. Oh and my Mum dosen't carry cash..!

Your quote:

"Yes theft is theft . . "

Do you know the difference between a theft and a robbery?

It didn't have to be cash. Your mum's chav hoodie if stolen from her in the act of a robbery may have alarmed, discomforted her? Perhaps not.

sw = free-flat
hilarious!

Next time in Court I wonder if I can get a deferred sentence if I say I'm going to Tesco's

I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

silent one wrote:
I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

Your quote:

"I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand.."

Wrong.

A robbery does not have to include a disguise or mask or a weapon.

A robbery is the act of taking something from a person by FORCE or threat of force.

A Theft is an entirely different act/category of offence.

For the victim of a robbery the value of what is taken (cash or property ) pales into significance compared with the fear experienced, which for some victims of robbery can be so damaging it can last a lifetime.

Get it now? Or are you really as stupid as you portray yourself to be?

You describe being a victim of several crimes. Does not this personal experience equip you with a sense of empathy, sense of understanding, towards other victims of crime - especially victims of robberies?

clausentum wrote:

silent one wrote:
I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

Your quote:

"I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand.."

Wrong.

A robbery does not have to include a disguise or mask or a weapon.

A robbery is the act of taking something from a person by FORCE or threat of force.

A Theft is an entirely different act/category of offence.

For the victim of a robbery the value of what is taken (cash or property ) pales into significance compared with the fear experienced, which for some victims of robbery can be so damaging it can last a lifetime.

Get it now? Or are you really as stupid as you portray yourself to be?

You describe being a victim of several crimes. Does not this personal experience equip you with a sense of empathy, sense of understanding, towards other victims of crime - especially victims of robberies?

Seriously mate... SHUT UP!

silent one wrote:
I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

Your quote:

"the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about."

My guess is the victims of this person's robberies are unlikely to consider the matter unimportant?

Your quote:

"the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property"

Someone appears to have a grudge or vendetta against you? Invest in CCTV. Sell the car? Travel to work by bus? Set up a Neighbourhood Watch Programme?

It is foolish equating the level of damage/suffering criminals have done to you, to the level of damage/suffering robbers inflicted on the victims of these robberies.

Why make such comparisons?

Why see someone-else's suffering in your personal terms and minimise it's likely impact on them? Their suffering is no less, no more, than yours.

If you see crime purely in cash terms, you miss the entire plot.

imchunt wrote:

clausentum wrote:

silent one wrote:
I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

Your quote:

"I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand.."

Wrong.

A robbery does not have to include a disguise or mask or a weapon.

A robbery is the act of taking something from a person by FORCE or threat of force.

A Theft is an entirely different act/category of offence.

For the victim of a robbery the value of what is taken (cash or property ) pales into significance compared with the fear experienced, which for some victims of robbery can be so damaging it can last a lifetime.

Get it now? Or are you really as stupid as you portray yourself to be?

You describe being a victim of several crimes. Does not this personal experience equip you with a sense of empathy, sense of understanding, towards other victims of crime - especially victims of robberies?

Seriously mate... SHUT UP!

Seriously pal . . . heard of the concepts of free speech and freedom of expression? Take a hike.

clausentum wrote:

imchunt wrote:

clausentum wrote:

silent one wrote:
I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand...! But it dosen't matter how you twist it turn it manipulate it the ethos of my post was not to the 'magnitude' of this oh so huge crime, but the fact that the Echo have nothing more important to write about. Now if you want to discuss the car I have had broken into 16 times and one stolen and smashed and burnt or the person who tried to break into my property then yeah... bring it on, but c'mon £8.60 hardly warrants this and all the other posts above it..

Your quote:

"I would 'assume' that a robbery would include a balaclava and a 12 bore where as a theft and a steal might just include a slight of hand.."

Wrong.

A robbery does not have to include a disguise or mask or a weapon.

A robbery is the act of taking something from a person by FORCE or threat of force.

A Theft is an entirely different act/category of offence.

For the victim of a robbery the value of what is taken (cash or property ) pales into significance compared with the fear experienced, which for some victims of robbery can be so damaging it can last a lifetime.

Get it now? Or are you really as stupid as you portray yourself to be?

You describe being a victim of several crimes. Does not this personal experience equip you with a sense of empathy, sense of understanding, towards other victims of crime - especially victims of robberies?

Seriously mate... SHUT UP!

Seriously pal . . . heard of the concepts of free speech and freedom of expression? Take a hike.

Everyone is entitled to there say but is it really nessesary to repeat yourself so many times - BORING

I have been a victim of crime but still see this report as very petty. I understand that there are some people out there who do not have the morals or self respect I have. But without repeating my self as you clearly feel the need to and to excercise my freedom of speech, my post was purely towards the echo, not the victims...! And for the record you would never equate what I would cosider a 'Pal' us Ladies have friends not Pal's..

SW will-wife...how funny

silent one... sorry i think those last comments were meant for me. got a bit boring reading the comments when every other one was from clausentum repeating himself.

The one thing missing from all these comments is.Take care and return safe.

No worries Imchunt, had to admit i skimmed his last post for just that reason.

Airbus, I agree; Ok he nicked £8.60 or so the Echo says, who knows maybe it was borrowed and they all fell out..?? But he has the balls to get out there and defend this country, probably more of a man than clause whatever his name is wcould ever aspire to be.

silent one wrote:
No worries Imchunt, had to admit i skimmed his last post for just that reason.

Airbus, I agree; Ok he nicked £8.60 or so the Echo says, who knows maybe it was borrowed and they all fell out..?? But he has the balls to get out there and defend this country, probably more of a man than clause whatever his name is wcould ever aspire to be.

You seem to think it OK for someone to rob ( I repeat, boringly, because you fail to get the basic point, the amount of cash is irrelevant ).

I do not think it OK for someone to rob.

Neither do I think it OK for a robber to serve in the military.

A robber should not be in the military. A robber should be in prison.

But, these observations are likely a waste of time because you really do appear to condone robbery and seem incredibly thick, to boot.

I'm done with your limited grasp of straight-forward notions of decent behaviour and wish you success in your tortuous attempts to debate - you have a long road to travel.

Airbus wrote:
The one thing missing from all these comments is.Take care and return safe.

The one thing missing from all these comments is. Kick him out of the Army. Put him in prison where he belongs.

sw = next-duty.
Priceless.

Where does everyone get the idea he's being treated differently to other convicted criminals?
He'll be punished when he returns to the UK after his tour, it's not at all unusual for this to happen, sentences are deferred for all sorts of reasons afterall it's not just soldiers that work away is it, and the community service he'll probably do is entirely fitting with that level of crime, if the judge had ordered a stay at the Hilton hotel with a bath tub full of page 3 girls as punishment i could see your point.

clausentum wrote:

silent one wrote:
No worries Imchunt, had to admit i skimmed his last post for just that reason.

Airbus, I agree; Ok he nicked £8.60 or so the Echo says, who knows maybe it was borrowed and they all fell out..?? But he has the balls to get out there and defend this country, probably more of a man than clause whatever his name is wcould ever aspire to be.

You seem to think it OK for someone to rob ( I repeat, boringly, because you fail to get the basic point, the amount of cash is irrelevant ).

I do not think it OK for someone to rob.

Neither do I think it OK for a robber to serve in the military.

A robber should not be in the military. A robber should be in prison.

But, these observations are likely a waste of time because you really do appear to condone robbery and seem incredibly thick, to boot.

I'm done with your limited grasp of straight-forward notions of decent behaviour and wish you success in your tortuous attempts to debate - you have a long road to travel.

The military have their own police/justice system and i'm sure he will end up paying back more than just the £8.60 he borrowed/stole. The military police are quite on the ball and i'm sure they have been told what is going on. if they know there is a thief in the ranks he will be dealt with.

I have just written a long meaningful reply to Mr Clause but you know what... I can' be bothered..!! Although put him in prison for £8.60 you stomping up your dole cheque for that one Clausey, I'de rather the Military deal with it than take more of my wages to fund him inside..You never know he might just meet an insendry and what a waste of time your boring dribble would have been... Right I am off to steal some sweeties...

He's lucky he's not in the RN, the policy there is for a hatch (weight, about half a ton) to accidentally fall on a thief's fingers.

Well, that used to be the policy before the RN went all soft and PC, he would be taken to one side now and given counselling.

Of course its worth taking him to court....
Even if upon his return from their war they decide he's been a good boy and give him a slap on the wrist, its still worth it.
Everytime someone goes to court a few things are needed....
A solicitor, this guy isnt getting legal aid - he works as a soldier, and even if he did get legal aid, it would just mean the government get more tax of us to pay for it.
So the solicitor gets paid, and then pays his business taxes.
Then there is court fees, I think about £60 a go and then a fine I should imagine both end up in government coffers.
Then a victim surcharge of £15 (regardless of if there is a victim or not now) And somewhere down the line, someone might get a snip of compensation.
keyword live-game!

£8.60? Seriously?