Permit only parking on roads around Southampton General Hospital (From This is Hampshire)

Parking permits do not only limit those that work at the hospital. Like me, motorists that pay road tax should be able to park in the streets of Southampton provided they dont block access etc. Many of these celebrating residents have drive ways they do not use, some are two or three car families and are just another bunch of not in my back yardigans.

Now watch the council see this as a revenue earner, and charge the residents for permits, then see the same people complain.
They wanted 'private parking' on a public road so charge 'em

hulla baloo wrote:
Now watch the council see this as a revenue earner, and charge the residents for permits, then see the same people complain. They wanted 'private parking' on a public road so charge 'em

You get one permit free, If you need anymore there £50 each.
@st.dave Is it the law that you have to use your driveway?
Is it against the law for more than one person to drive in a family?, is it too much to ask to be able to park outside or even in the same street as you live, Its not our fault that YOU choose to drive to work, Its not out fault that YOUR employer does not provied enough parking. If you did have your own parking bay at work Im sure you would kick up a storm If I parked in it!

saintmartin wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: Now watch the council see this as a revenue earner, and charge the residents for permits, then see the same people complain. They wanted 'private parking' on a public road so charge 'em

You get one permit free, If you need anymore there £50 each. @st.dave Is it the law that you have to use your driveway? Is it against the law for more than one person to drive in a family?, is it too much to ask to be able to park outside or even in the same street as you live, Its not our fault that YOU choose to drive to work, Its not out fault that YOUR employer does not provied enough parking. If you did have your own parking bay at work Im sure you would kick up a storm If I parked in it!

Summed up nicely, typical of a nimbey who has little regard for others, and written under the assumption that I park in the area. For clarity I live there.

Vinery Gardens is empty during any week day, just have a look! This is all about the council making money off of the residents. Most of the residents on Vinery Gardens did not want this. We get absolutely nothing out of it except the privilege of paying for extra cars! The real problem is on street parking at night and on the weekends and that is about to get worse with the new large number of cheap flats on Winchester. It's not a victory for residents; it's just about the money as usual.

If you live there you do park there, And once you get your permit for zone 7 you can also park anywere round the hospital and outside your house, so shutup moaning and get a life!

saintmartin wrote:
If you live there you do park there, And once you get your permit for zone 7 you can also park anywere round the hospital and outside your house, so shutup moaning and get a life!

nice response once again - because someone has a different opinion than yourself they need to get a life -you sum up your type typically...

iM AFRAID IT DEPENDS ON THE COUNCIL. i AM ONLY ALLOWED 1 PERMIT FOR MY HOUSE AND I HAVE TO PAY £50 FOR IT. ITS NOT GURRANTEED 1 FREE AND 50 FOR ANOTHER BELIEVE ME,

If the Hospital had not sold most of the Western(CHEST) site for big money to Tesco they between the 2 sites would have had more than adequate space for all departments of the hospital and still have had plenty of room for parking and this problem would have not arisen.
I lived in Dale Road until 1972 and Mother lived there until her death in 2000, we watched the General expand massively, taking over most of Laundry an Tremona Roads and bringing the surrounding areas to a standstill.
Usual shortsited planning and greed,
even our GP used to park in Mothers drive if he had to visit the Hospital

geoff51 wrote:
If the Hospital had not sold most of the Western(CHEST) site for big money to Tesco they between the 2 sites would have had more than adequate space for all departments of the hospital and still have had plenty of room for parking and this problem would have not arisen.
I lived in Dale Road until 1972 and Mother lived there until her death in 2000, we watched the General expand massively, taking over most of Laundry an Tremona Roads and bringing the surrounding areas to a standstill.
Usual shortsited planning and greed,
even our GP used to park in Mothers drive if he had to visit the Hospital

What do you think they did with that money? There are no shareholders parties y'know.

After years of suffering students and Uni staff parking in my road we successfully got permit holder parking last year. As a council tax payer you should be able to park near your own home.

Ok so we have a problem with parking!! well sorry but i put the blame not on SGH in full but partly as most of the cars parked are Disabled Blue Badge they get money to help pay for parking or they get a new car with everything paid for yet they wont park in SGH disabled parking bays ok cost is a bit high they should do what QA in cosham do that would help all disabled drivers have it all paid for them and when it comes to carparking they want more which is wrong the car is to get them around YES a disabled bay is for helping THOSE who cant walk park close to the entrence YES but they want more yes DISABLED car drivers want it all FREE when the money in the end comes from Tax payers so if you deal with this problem you will solve it, also get your friends to drop you off at hospital if the app is not for the disabled person let a REAL DISABLED PERSON in a Wheelchair have the space and not you for the wife/hus/person who is not disabled park in the space you have taken.

Condor Man wrote:
After years of suffering students and Uni staff parking in my road we successfully got permit holder parking last year. As a council tax payer you should be able to park near your own home.

Not if you live anywhere near an area or destination that overcharges for parking or anywhere with double yellow lines.
I moved from Shirley to Totton after fighting for a parking place even in the same road for 28 years.
Paying council tax or even road tax entitles you to nothing except the right to use the road. If you want to park near your house buy a house with a driveway

geoff51 wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
After years of suffering students and Uni staff parking in my road we successfully got permit holder parking last year. As a council tax payer you should be able to park near your own home.

Not if you live anywhere near an area or destination that overcharges for parking or anywhere with double yellow lines.
I moved from Shirley to Totton after fighting for a parking place even in the same road for 28 years.
Paying council tax or even road tax entitles you to nothing except the right to use the road. If you want to park near your house buy a house with a driveway

I know a friend who lives in millbrook he has one nabour but they hav 4 cars so my friend has problems parking outside his own house I mean 4 cars to one house they should pay for more then 2 cars in my eyes unless you have a driveway !! yet again we have a problem you can talk till the sky comes down on this subject you will just go round round and around but the point of this page is to do with the area around A HOSPITAL!! wake up

I know a friend who lives in millbrook he has one nabour but they hav 4 cars so my friend has problems parking outside his own house I mean 4 cars to one house they should pay for more then 2 cars in my eyes unless you have a driveway !! yet again we have a problem you can talk till the sky comes down on this subject you will just go round round and around but the point of this page is to do with the area around A HOSPITAL!! wake up

St.DaveH wrote:
Parking permits do not only limit those that work at the hospital. Like me, motorists that pay road tax should be able to park in the streets of Southampton provided they dont block access etc. Many of these celebrating residents have drive ways they do not use, some are two or three car families and are just another bunch of not in my back yardigans.

I think you're oversimplifying..
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There are many people that cant afford their own house or flat and house share as a result thesedays. This increases the amount of cars for that property. It isnt nimbyism, its just life.
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Secondly, you dont pay road tax. It dont exist. You pay a vehicle tax for the ownership and based on emissions (its a green tax, and an over simplified one at that)... Vehicle excise duty. Its not really anything to do with the roads, thats what you pay council tax, income tax and a little VAT for.
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Anyway, I digress.
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They live there, why shouldnt they be allowed to park there. Mind you planning applications for a second multi storey for the hospital was said to have been rejected in the 90s becuase locals didnt want it, LOL!
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Infact heres a thought.Perhaps we should be erecting smaller multi storey car parks around the city for residents? Theres one or two places they could site them near flats and houses.

hampshire wrote:
Ok so we have a problem with parking!! well sorry but i put the blame not on SGH in full but partly as most of the cars parked are Disabled Blue Badge they get money to help pay for parking or they get a new car with everything paid for yet they wont park in SGH disabled parking bays ok cost is a bit high they should do what QA in cosham do that would help all disabled drivers have it all paid for them and when it comes to carparking they want more which is wrong the car is to get them around YES a disabled bay is for helping THOSE who cant walk park close to the entrence YES but they want more yes DISABLED car drivers want it all FREE when the money in the end comes from Tax payers so if you deal with this problem you will solve it, also get your friends to drop you off at hospital if the app is not for the disabled person let a REAL DISABLED PERSON in a Wheelchair have the space and not you for the wife/hus/person who is not disabled park in the space you have taken.

That's a very long sentence.
I did spot the comma though.

I have a permit and a drive and unlimited daily passes. I am scrapping my car soon, so one more space and if you dont block my driveway I will even pass on a free day pass so you dont get a ticket xx

Now you're just showing off!! =)

downfader wrote:

St.DaveH wrote: Parking permits do not only limit those that work at the hospital. Like me, motorists that pay road tax should be able to park in the streets of Southampton provided they dont block access etc. Many of these celebrating residents have drive ways they do not use, some are two or three car families and are just another bunch of not in my back yardigans.

I think you're oversimplifying.. . There are many people that cant afford their own house or flat and house share as a result thesedays. This increases the amount of cars for that property. It isnt nimbyism, its just life. . Secondly, you dont pay road tax. It dont exist. You pay a vehicle tax for the ownership and based on emissions (its a green tax, and an over simplified one at that)... Vehicle excise duty. Its not really anything to do with the roads, thats what you pay council tax, income tax and a little VAT for. . Anyway, I digress. . They live there, why shouldnt they be allowed to park there. Mind you planning applications for a second multi storey for the hospital was said to have been rejected in the 90s becuase locals didnt want it, LOL! . Infact heres a thought.Perhaps we should be erecting smaller multi storey car parks around the city for residents? Theres one or two places they could site them near flats and houses.

Yes I am simplifying, and that is because I do live there and know the problem first hand....many of the residents get upset if they cannot park directly outside of their house, and yet many driveways remain empty....sorry to say that even one neighbor high horses at each and every opportunity, and two could comfortably fit in her alley..lol.
Point taken on road tax, but isn’t official name still the road fund license???.and thus makes a vehicle legal for driving or parking use on any public road????

St.DaveH wrote:

downfader wrote:

St.DaveH wrote: Parking permits do not only limit those that work at the hospital. Like me, motorists that pay road tax should be able to park in the streets of Southampton provided they dont block access etc. Many of these celebrating residents have drive ways they do not use, some are two or three car families and are just another bunch of not in my back yardigans.

I think you're oversimplifying.. . There are many people that cant afford their own house or flat and house share as a result thesedays. This increases the amount of cars for that property. It isnt nimbyism, its just life. . Secondly, you dont pay road tax. It dont exist. You pay a vehicle tax for the ownership and based on emissions (its a green tax, and an over simplified one at that)... Vehicle excise duty. Its not really anything to do with the roads, thats what you pay council tax, income tax and a little VAT for. . Anyway, I digress. . They live there, why shouldnt they be allowed to park there. Mind you planning applications for a second multi storey for the hospital was said to have been rejected in the 90s becuase locals didnt want it, LOL! . Infact heres a thought.Perhaps we should be erecting smaller multi storey car parks around the city for residents? Theres one or two places they could site them near flats and houses.

Yes I am simplifying, and that is because I do live there and know the problem first hand....many of the residents get upset if they cannot park directly outside of their house, and yet many driveways remain empty....sorry to say that even one neighbor high horses at each and every opportunity, and two could comfortably fit in her alley..lol. Point taken on road tax, but isn’t official name still the road fund license???.and thus makes a vehicle legal for driving or parking use on any public road????

I expect the residents park outside their house and leave their drive free because if they don't, somebody with a big white van will park it there,probably abandoning it for a whole weekend, let alone the hospital commuters. That prevents them having any home visitors who can park within a reasonable distance. I doubt they want to look at a massive commercial vehicle either. Ban vans from residential areas I say. Leave your van at the depot!

St.DaveH wrote:

downfader wrote:

St.DaveH wrote: Parking permits do not only limit those that work at the hospital. Like me, motorists that pay road tax should be able to park in the streets of Southampton provided they dont block access etc. Many of these celebrating residents have drive ways they do not use, some are two or three car families and are just another bunch of not in my back yardigans.

I think you're oversimplifying.. . There are many people that cant afford their own house or flat and house share as a result thesedays. This increases the amount of cars for that property. It isnt nimbyism, its just life. . Secondly, you dont pay road tax. It dont exist. You pay a vehicle tax for the ownership and based on emissions (its a green tax, and an over simplified one at that)... Vehicle excise duty. Its not really anything to do with the roads, thats what you pay council tax, income tax and a little VAT for. . Anyway, I digress. . They live there, why shouldnt they be allowed to park there. Mind you planning applications for a second multi storey for the hospital was said to have been rejected in the 90s becuase locals didnt want it, LOL! . Infact heres a thought.Perhaps we should be erecting smaller multi storey car parks around the city for residents? Theres one or two places they could site them near flats and houses.

Yes I am simplifying, and that is because I do live there and know the problem first hand....many of the residents get upset if they cannot park directly outside of their house, and yet many driveways remain empty....sorry to say that even one neighbor high horses at each and every opportunity, and two could comfortably fit in her alley..lol. Point taken on road tax, but isn’t official name still the road fund license???.and thus makes a vehicle legal for driving or parking use on any public road????

Nah mate, its not been the road funds licence for gawd knows how long. You do pay VED under statutes and agreements on the driving licence to be allowed on the roads and to park, as you said. Some vehicles are there by right, but cars by licence. :-D
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I work around there so know several of the roads get completely blocked by SGH staff. I know they're staff too by the uniforms (why are nurses allowed to wear them in I wonder, lol?) or guess the rest by the fact I see them walk on site.
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Theres about 8000 employees so I'm guessing thats a LOT of extra cars.