Church VAT campaign (From This is Hampshire)

regardless of peoples beliefs these buidlings are of important cultural and historical importance. Anything that can be done to protect them is a good thing. Southampton especially lost a lot of historic buildings during the wartime bombings, we need to keep as many as possible.

Stuff the VAT.
Given the recent relevations, and is a very long, and ongoing situation, I think it is time the church brought their house into order regarding the number of child offenders there are in their ranks.
It would appear they know about a number of them, and move them around to hide them, giving the impression it is condoned,rather than involving the police.

Condor Man wrote:
regardless of peoples beliefs these buidlings are of important cultural and historical importance. Anything that can be done to protect them is a good thing. Southampton especially lost a lot of historic buildings during the wartime bombings, we need to keep as many as possible.

agreed there was a great lost of old building in the last war, but the church it self has destroyed historical locations eg millbrook graveyard, items of historical importance like when all saints church in town got bombed the organ was saved it was later giving to all saints church here in redbridge and what did they do, they went and scrap it a few years ago.

southy wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
regardless of peoples beliefs these buidlings are of important cultural and historical importance. Anything that can be done to protect them is a good thing. Southampton especially lost a lot of historic buildings during the wartime bombings, we need to keep as many as possible.

agreed there was a great lost of old building in the last war, but the church it self has destroyed historical locations eg millbrook graveyard, items of historical importance like when all saints church in town got bombed the organ was saved it was later giving to all saints church here in redbridge and what did they do, they went and scrap it a few years ago.

You can add to that the destruction of all the graves at St Mary's, this city's mother church, in the early 1950's.
Vandalism on a grand scale.

In the current financial climate, everyone has to take the pain and it's a question of priorities.
As far as I'm concerned, pointless buildings rank with drunken students on noddy degree courses...

hulla baloo wrote:
Stuff the VAT. Given the recent relevations, and is a very long, and ongoing situation, I think it is time the church brought their house into order regarding the number of child offenders there are in their ranks. It would appear they know about a number of them, and move them around to hide them, giving the impression it is condoned,rather than involving the police.

how on earth are the 2 related? There have been incidents of child molestation in schools, should they been demolished too? A friend of mine is child protection officer for the Winchester Diocese of the C of E. She certainly runs a tight ship, it's regretable that the RC hasn't been so diligent.

Condor Man wrote:

hulla baloo wrote:
Stuff the VAT. Given the recent relevations, and is a very long, and ongoing situation, I think it is time the church brought their house into order regarding the number of child offenders there are in their ranks. It would appear they know about a number of them, and move them around to hide them, giving the impression it is condoned,rather than involving the police.

how on earth are the 2 related? There have been incidents of child molestation in schools, should they been demolished too? A friend of mine is child protection officer for the Winchester Diocese of the C of E. She certainly runs a tight ship, it's regretable that the RC hasn't been so diligent.

condor go on you tube and punch up jeff durham achmed the dead terrorist.

Condor Man wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: Stuff the VAT. Given the recent relevations, and is a very long, and ongoing situation, I think it is time the church brought their house into order regarding the number of child offenders there are in their ranks. It would appear they know about a number of them, and move them around to hide them, giving the impression it is condoned,rather than involving the police.

how on earth are the 2 related? There have been incidents of child molestation in schools, should they been demolished too? A friend of mine is child protection officer for the Winchester Diocese of the C of E. She certainly runs a tight ship, it's regretable that the RC hasn't been so diligent.

Condor Man

That is the worst, most bigoted piece of dis-association I have read from you.
"runs a tight ship" - it all must be ok then
There is child abuse in all areas of education and religion. Wherever weak adults are put in charge of vulnerable children, the opportunity for problems arise.
And there is no weaker adult than the one who depends on religion for way of life and income. REGARDLESS OF THE RELIGION

warness wrote:

Condor Man wrote:

hulla baloo wrote: Stuff the VAT. Given the recent relevations, and is a very long, and ongoing situation, I think it is time the church brought their house into order regarding the number of child offenders there are in their ranks. It would appear they know about a number of them, and move them around to hide them, giving the impression it is condoned,rather than involving the police.

how on earth are the 2 related? There have been incidents of child molestation in schools, should they been demolished too? A friend of mine is child protection officer for the Winchester Diocese of the C of E. She certainly runs a tight ship, it's regretable that the RC hasn't been so diligent.

Condor Man That is the worst, most bigoted piece of dis-association I have read from you. "runs a tight ship" - it all must be ok then There is child abuse in all areas of education and religion. Wherever weak adults are put in charge of vulnerable children, the opportunity for problems arise. And there is no weaker adult than the one who depends on religion for way of life and income. REGARDLESS OF THE RELIGION

I would hardly call my friend weak, she's dealt with incidents where people have been accused of child abuse very seriously- in fact one person ended up in prison for his crime. Had the RC taken action against rogue priests then perhaps they would not be dragged through the mire now. I've worked with children in schools, churches and the wider community. Sadly there will be horrible people out there, it's up to us to vigilant and stop them before they cause real harm.

Apology accepted. Maybe now you will think twice about hijacking a VAT story, to rant about something unrelated.

warness wrote:
Apology accepted. Maybe now you will think twice about hijacking a VAT story, to rant about something unrelated.

I never started the rant, I just felt obliged to make a point. Back to the story all buildings of historical importance should be protected. If Wyndham Court can be a grade 2 listed building then other properties need protection.