Motorist hauled to safety by off-duty fireman (From This is Hampshire)

warness says...
5:36pm Sat 20 Mar 10

???
How did this guy get out of the car??

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Get it right says...
5:38pm Sat 20 Mar 10

"AN off-duty fire fighter went to the aid the male motorist who had been trapped in his car after M27 at junction 12."
The proof-reading just gets better and better...

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Brite Spark says...
6:45pm Sat 20 Mar 10

Was it the off duty guy who got him out or was it the on duty guys I can't work it out.

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septuagenarian says...
6:22am Sun 21 Mar 10

Brite Spark wrote:
Was it the off duty guy who got him out or was it the on duty guys I can't work it out.

Try putting another flint in your gas lighter.

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Lord Ikea says...
9:18am Sun 21 Mar 10

Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.

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septuagenarian says...
10:09am Sun 21 Mar 10

Lord Ikea wrote:
Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.

Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.

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Jerry Parsons says...
11:36am Sun 21 Mar 10

Lord Ikea, sadly although your tongue may have been a bit in your cheek, I know that you are right.

First Aiders are being taught to look for foreign objects in a wound not a foreign body as this may upset someone!

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X Old Bill says...
11:42am Sun 21 Mar 10

Lord Ikea is absolutely spot on.
When (Not if) the Motorist's Insurance Company decides to pursue a consequential injuries claim in Court then it makes a difference to the proceedings as to whether the Defendant is an Individual or an Organisation.
If the individual can be shown to be a person who 'should have known better' then he really has no chance. Even if he did something which was logical and well practised.

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Stupideditor says...
12:05pm Sun 21 Mar 10

As a firefighter this guy should be fully aware of the risks involved with dragging someone out of vehicle after an impact. I didn't know firefighters could do an assessment on necks.

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Lord Ikea says...
12:22pm Sun 21 Mar 10

septuagenarian wrote:

Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.

Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!

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septuagenarian says...
1:07pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Lord Ikea wrote:

septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!

So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.

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Lord Ikea says...
3:34pm Sun 21 Mar 10

septuagenarian wrote:

Lord Ikea wrote:
septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.

cowardice is a very strong word to use. If the car was about to burst into flames then the situation has changed. You have to assess each and every situation and act accordingly. Sometimes it is better to leave the victim in the vehicle and talk to them and comfort them and wait for the rescue people to arrive, rather than risk more injury to them and yourself by hauling them out of the wreck. You might be interested to know but not all car crashes result in a blazing inferno unless you live in Hollywood.

[quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.[/p][/quote]Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!![/p][/quote]So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.[/p][/quote]cowardice is a very strong word to use. If the car was about to burst into flames then the situation has changed. You have to assess each and every situation and act accordingly. Sometimes it is better to leave the victim in the vehicle and talk to them and comfort them and wait for the rescue people to arrive, rather than risk more injury to them and yourself by hauling them out of the wreck. You might be interested to know but not all car crashes result in a blazing inferno unless you live in Hollywood. Lord Ikea

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warness says...
3:36pm Sun 21 Mar 10

The off-duty fire officer only stopped at the scene.
He observed the situation.
The on-duty team did the rescue.
Poor, sensationalist reporting has created a vision in your minds of a man in civvies rushing to a vehicle and dragging a broken-boned man out of the wreck.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN

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Georgem says...
3:38pm Sun 21 Mar 10

septuagenarian wrote:

Lord Ikea wrote:

septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.

You're missing the point. The rules are different for emergency services staff, on duty or otherwise.

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/scotland/glas
gow_and_west/8552171
.stm

Enjoy your rage

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septuagenarian says...
3:39pm Sun 21 Mar 10

The modern health & safety rules in the UK, have been drawn up purely as a money spinner for the judiciary. and do not appertain to a common sense approach in any way, shape or form. Sinse we went over to the American way of thinking, the number of yachts on the Hamble, has increased ten fold. So don't give me that --health and safety rules UK! nonsense.

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warness says...
3:40pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Georgem wrote:

septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote:
septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.
You're missing the point. The rules are different for emergency services staff, on duty or otherwise. http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/scotland/glas gow_and_west/8552171 .stm Enjoy your rage

The off-duty fire officer only stopped at the scene.
He observed the situation.
The on-duty team did the rescue.
Poor, sensationalist reporting has created a vision in your minds of a man in civvies rushing to a vehicle and dragging a broken-boned man out of the wreck.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN

[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.[/p][/quote]Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!![/p][/quote]So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.[/p][/quote]You're missing the point. The rules are different for emergency services staff, on duty or otherwise. http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/scotland/glas gow_and_west/8552171 .stm Enjoy your rage[/p][/quote]The off-duty fire officer only stopped at the scene. He observed the situation. The on-duty team did the rescue. Poor, sensationalist reporting has created a vision in your minds of a man in civvies rushing to a vehicle and dragging a broken-boned man out of the wreck. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN warness

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Georgem says...
3:48pm Sun 21 Mar 10

warness wrote:

Georgem wrote:

septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote:
septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.
You're missing the point. The rules are different for emergency services staff, on duty or otherwise. http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/scotland/glas gow_and_west/8552171 .stm Enjoy your rage
The off-duty fire officer only stopped at the scene.
He observed the situation.
The on-duty team did the rescue.
Poor, sensationalist reporting has created a vision in your minds of a man in civvies rushing to a vehicle and dragging a broken-boned man out of the wreck.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN

Err, no. Perhaps you should actually read comments, rather than scanning them for things to be outraged by

[quote][p][bold]warness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.[/p][/quote]Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!![/p][/quote]So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.[/p][/quote]You're missing the point. The rules are different for emergency services staff, on duty or otherwise. http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/scotland/glas gow_and_west/8552171 .stm Enjoy your rage[/p][/quote]The off-duty fire officer only stopped at the scene. He observed the situation. The on-duty team did the rescue. Poor, sensationalist reporting has created a vision in your minds of a man in civvies rushing to a vehicle and dragging a broken-boned man out of the wreck. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN[/p][/quote]Err, no. Perhaps you should actually read comments, rather than scanning them for things to be outraged by Georgem

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warness says...
3:52pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Sorry George
I forgot you are the expert, having been on that 2 week nebosh course.

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warness says...
4:00pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Truth hurts - eh?

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Lord Ikea says...
4:11pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Ah well time to go and put on my yellow and blue skin tight suit with the pants on the outside and cape flowing in the wind. I am sure there are some septuagenariums that need rescuing from themselves ......IKEAMAN to the rescue dum dum dum

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warness says...
4:34pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Lord Ikea wrote:
Ah well time to go and put on my yellow and blue skin tight suit with the pants on the outside and cape flowing in the wind. I am sure there are some septuagenariums that need rescuing from themselves ......IKEAMAN to the rescue dum dum dum

Fear not Ikeaman!
GeorgeM is an expert - he must be - he sent us a link to another website to prove it.
Website?? - perhaps he is Spiderman! - You guys are a double-act.
SeptuSuperman
and neboshspiderman

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Georgem says...
5:44pm Sun 21 Mar 10

warness wrote:
Truth hurts - eh?

You didn't get a response within an arbitrary time limit, and assume your post has had some effect or other? Interesting. And by "interesting" I mean "a bit interesting", and by "a bit" I mean "not at all".

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Georgem says...
5:47pm Sun 21 Mar 10

warness wrote:

Lord Ikea wrote:
Ah well time to go and put on my yellow and blue skin tight suit with the pants on the outside and cape flowing in the wind. I am sure there are some septuagenariums that need rescuing from themselves ......IKEAMAN to the rescue dum dum dum
Fear not Ikeaman!
GeorgeM is an expert - he must be - he sent us a link to another website to prove it.
Website?? - perhaps he is Spiderman! - You guys are a double-act.
SeptuSuperman
and neboshspiderman

Troll rating: 1.5 / 10

I look forward to a few weeks of you monitoring my comments extra-closely, for ways you can show us all how witty you are with fallacious retorts and enthrall everybody with exraneous punctuation!!!11!shi
ft+one!!eleven11!

Seen it all before.

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warness says...
6:06pm Sun 21 Mar 10

fallacious retorts ?????
You do yourself no justice George. If my retorts are based on a fallacy, then you are the fallac symbol.

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Georgem says...
6:31pm Sun 21 Mar 10

warness wrote:
fallacious retorts ?????
You do yourself no justice George. If my retorts are based on a fallacy, then you are the fallac symbol.

I was expecting "witty". You're fired

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warness says...
6:35pm Sun 21 Mar 10

Georgem

Great banter - thanks.
I'm off munter hunting down the waterside now. Hope to do the same soon.

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flower49 says...
10:10pm Sun 21 Mar 10

septuagenarian wrote:

Lord Ikea wrote:
septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.

I'm not getting into any arguments but, having just been to a first aid course last week, we were told the first thing you must ask is DO they want your help...... that being if they are able to talk of course, septuagenarian you live up to your name, feminine trait indeed, I suggest it is you with the feminine traits, you sound like a big girls blouse, Lord Ikea I agree with you, this is the world we live in, but hopefully if a persons life depends on it all Elf and safety would go out the window, and as warness cadnam says the situation was not as earlier stated and the firefighter did act properly without causing any harm to both himself or the passenger in the car, thank you to all fireman and police everywhere.

[quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.[/p][/quote]Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!![/p][/quote]So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.[/p][/quote]I'm not getting into any arguments but, having just been to a first aid course last week, we were told the first thing you must ask is DO they want your help...... that being if they are able to talk of course, septuagenarian you live up to your name, feminine trait indeed, I suggest it is you with the feminine traits, you sound like a big girls blouse, Lord Ikea I agree with you, this is the world we live in, but hopefully if a persons life depends on it all Elf and safety would go out the window, and as warness cadnam says the situation was not as earlier stated and the firefighter did act properly without causing any harm to both himself or the passenger in the car, thank you to all fireman and police everywhere. flower49

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septuagenarian says...
6:50am Mon 22 Mar 10

They should rename that coarce to a WORST AID COURCE.

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septuagenarian says...
7:14am Mon 22 Mar 10

flower49 wrote:

septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote:
septuagenarian wrote:
Lord Ikea wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.
Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.
Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!!
So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.
I'm not getting into any arguments but, having just been to a first aid course last week, we were told the first thing you must ask is DO they want your help...... that being if they are able to talk of course, septuagenarian you live up to your name, feminine trait indeed, I suggest it is you with the feminine traits, you sound like a big girls blouse, Lord Ikea I agree with you, this is the world we live in, but hopefully if a persons life depends on it all Elf and safety would go out the window, and as warness cadnam says the situation was not as earlier stated and the firefighter did act properly without causing any harm to both himself or the passenger in the car, thank you to all fireman and police everywhere.

Big girls blouses don't become Sgt. instructors in the Brigade of Guards. Why don't you enlist and find out for yourself

[quote][p][bold]flower49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]septuagenarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Ikea[/bold] wrote: Just think of the implications if the off duty Fireman had injured the motorist in the process of hauling him out of a car. Was he using correct lifting methods and wearing the correct PPE? Had he carried out a dynamic risk assessment and recieved a correct and up to date work instruction. Did the motorist in question want to be hauled from a car? Maybe he wanted to be rescued by on duty firemen. Did the off duty fireman have the correct insurance cover for off duty rescues? Did he ask the motorists christian name or his first name as he would not want to insult any religious beliefs. It is better to leave the victim in the car and not be a hero all thanks to health and safety Welcome to the UK 2010.[/p][/quote]Change your handle to Lady Ikea chum, as you've got your head stuffed with TRIVIA. A feminine trait.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your observation but Lord is correct. I think you have been out of industry and work for a few years as these are all standard documents and procedures for modern day working life. Health and safety rules UK !!![/p][/quote]So,! - If you had been the first on the scene, I suppose you'ld be thumbing through your H&S note book assessing your own personal risks, while the vehicle erupts in a blazing inferno?. You'll never get a medal for bravery, and I woild'nt bet on them stiking one for cowardice, just for people like you.[/p][/quote]I'm not getting into any arguments but, having just been to a first aid course last week, we were told the first thing you must ask is DO they want your help...... that being if they are able to talk of course, septuagenarian you live up to your name, feminine trait indeed, I suggest it is you with the feminine traits, you sound like a big girls blouse, Lord Ikea I agree with you, this is the world we live in, but hopefully if a persons life depends on it all Elf and safety would go out the window, and as warness cadnam says the situation was not as earlier stated and the firefighter did act properly without causing any harm to both himself or the passenger in the car, thank you to all fireman and police everywhere.[/p][/quote]Big girls blouses don't become Sgt. instructors in the Brigade of Guards. Why don't you enlist and find out for yourself septuagenarian

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7:27pm Mon 22 Mar 10

septuagenarian wrote:
They should rename that coarce to a WORST AID COURCE.

Like I said I would like to think all health and safety would go out the window, but incredible as it sounds you do have to ask first, I for one would act first and help anybody regardless.

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