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Waterside residents fear for their health


PROTESTERS may appeal against the approval of a controversial asbestos store backing onto homes in a Waterside village.

The county council said there were no planning reasons to refuse permission for the toxic waste facility in Long Lane, Holbury. Fawley Parish Councillor Allan Glass said he was “disgusted and angered” by the decision.

“I would like to appeal. How can they justify this in the middle of a village? There are lots of houses, a school and shops all around it,” said Allan whose own father-in-law died from asbestosis.

The proposals will see double-bagged asbestos being transported from building sites to Solent Environmental Services headquarters in Long Lane where it will be stored in two lockable steel containers.

The containers will hold around six tonnes of waste before being taken to a licensed landfill site in Wiltshire where the hazardous material will be buried.

The nearest houses are just four metres from the Long Lane depot. Company bosses insist the plan is safe and have offered to talk to anyone who is concerned.

The company needed permission from Hampshire County Council before the waste transfer station could be set up.

In a report to the regulatory committee, planning officers said while the proposals involved the handling of asbestos near homes and businesses, it was considered acceptable. Officers said the hazardous material would come to the depot already bagged.

The report said: “There is no processing or treatment of the asbestos on site and so there is no harm to the health of local residents or the environment.”

But Mr Glass, who made a deputation to the committee, fears potentially deadly asbestos fibres could still escape.

He said: “They say the asbestos will be double-bagged but bags split. They are going to be handling lots and lots of bags every week and depending on not one of them splitting.”

Fawley Parish Council formally objected and there were also 17 letters of objection from local residents.

Among their concerns they felt Long Lane depot was an inappropriate site, there was a danger to health and environment, disturbance to residents and increased traffic.

After lengthy discussion of the dangers of asbestos, county councillors yesterday approved the application by eleven votes to four with four abstentions. They agreed two amendments – firstly, the containers had to be lockable and secondly, before opening the facility, the firm had to obtain the relevant environmental and health permits.

After the meeting, Richard Read, head of planning and development at the county council, said: “The county council position is that it is an acceptable site and the issue of managing the asbestos is for other organisations to administer.

“There are no planning grounds for refusal.”

New Forest District Council had no objections.


Comments(12)

The Edge of Reason says...
7:34am Fri 30 Jul 10

This is why we have the planning process, it is considered safe so I don't see the problem.

NFDC had objections to the plans, and only 17 were submitted to HCC, one wonders if this a personal crusade by the parish councillor looking his 5 minutes of fame or promotion to larger council?

10 Minute Man says...
8:58am Fri 30 Jul 10

No I suspect its because people have real fears about asbestos, e.g. the fact that a single fibre lodged in the lungs can lie undetected and cause mesothelioma (sp?) years later, leading to a long and painful death.

The control procedures are good but never perfect, and accidents can happen even with the very best attention to detail and willingness to bear all necessary costs of removal and handling.

Plus, who is going to want to buy those houses now ? I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

fraggled says...
9:03am Fri 30 Jul 10

The Edge of Reason: I agree with your comments!
.
10 Minute Man: is it not a simple case that it's something we need (without it there is no safe way to dispose of this potentially hazardous material) but no one wants it near them?
.
Well, here's a bit of news for you......... we need it, and it's got to go somewhere!

AD74 says...
9:05am Fri 30 Jul 10

10 Minute Man wrote:
No I suspect its because people have real fears about asbestos, e.g. the fact that a single fibre lodged in the lungs can lie undetected and cause mesothelioma (sp?) years later, leading to a long and painful death. The control procedures are good but never perfect, and accidents can happen even with the very best attention to detail and willingness to bear all necessary costs of removal and handling. Plus, who is going to want to buy those houses now ? I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
Quite right who would buy a house next to a container full of asbestos, guess the idea of living next to the refinery didn't put you off but a bag of asbestos does!

Linesman says...
9:28am Fri 30 Jul 10

fraggled wrote:
The Edge of Reason: I agree with your comments! . 10 Minute Man: is it not a simple case that it's something we need (without it there is no safe way to dispose of this potentially hazardous material) but no one wants it near them? . Well, here's a bit of news for you......... we need it, and it's got to go somewhere!
And you would be delighted to have it on your doorstep?

These decisions are taken in Winchester, but when have they ever considered putting a sewerage works on the edge of Winchester?

When have they ever considered putting a waste recycling centre on the edge of Winchester, or an incinerator, or a land-fill. They have just turned down plans for a housing estate on the outskirts.

Winchester is a glaring example of NIMBYism! They want their lovely City to stay just the way it is, and to hell with the rest of the County!

Ted Rogers says...
11:21am Fri 30 Jul 10

Linesman wrote:
fraggled wrote: The Edge of Reason: I agree with your comments! . 10 Minute Man: is it not a simple case that it's something we need (without it there is no safe way to dispose of this potentially hazardous material) but no one wants it near them? . Well, here's a bit of news for you......... we need it, and it's got to go somewhere!
And you would be delighted to have it on your doorstep? These decisions are taken in Winchester, but when have they ever considered putting a sewerage works on the edge of Winchester? When have they ever considered putting a waste recycling centre on the edge of Winchester, or an incinerator, or a land-fill. They have just turned down plans for a housing estate on the outskirts. Winchester is a glaring example of NIMBYism! They want their lovely City to stay just the way it is, and to hell with the rest of the County!
Wrong. It's a simple fact that Winchester is the site of the head office. Nice try to blame all of the ills of the county on Winchester, but flawed. There is a body called the planning inspectorate and also district planning committees, which in this case also had no objection.
The reason the housing estate was turned down is because it was on designated green belt and had no provision for a workable infrastructure. For the record, I happen to believe that such an operation should be in a designated industrial environment away from a residential area. The removal of asbestos is a very lucrative business, with the anticipated profit this company should be able to afford a more suited remote site for this particular operation.

10 Minute Man says...
1:46pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I wouldn't live next door to the refinery either for all kinds of reasons.

Of course we need these facilities but its not necessary to build them next to peoples' homes. Yes, it may be convenient and cheap (i.e. 'perfect' site for it) but handling and storage of toxic waste near people's homes seems unacceptable to me.

RadicalEmu says...
3:43pm Fri 30 Jul 10

10 Minute Man wrote:
I wouldn't live next door to the refinery either for all kinds of reasons.

Of course we need these facilities but its not necessary to build them next to peoples' homes. Yes, it may be convenient and cheap (i.e. 'perfect' site for it) but handling and storage of toxic waste near people's homes seems unacceptable to me.
I was going to say; Asbestos could be the least of their worries if a major incident happened at the refinery.

Linesman says...
5:27pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Ted Rogers wrote:
Linesman wrote:
fraggled wrote: The Edge of Reason: I agree with your comments! . 10 Minute Man: is it not a simple case that it's something we need (without it there is no safe way to dispose of this potentially hazardous material) but no one wants it near them? . Well, here's a bit of news for you......... we need it, and it's got to go somewhere!
And you would be delighted to have it on your doorstep? These decisions are taken in Winchester, but when have they ever considered putting a sewerage works on the edge of Winchester? When have they ever considered putting a waste recycling centre on the edge of Winchester, or an incinerator, or a land-fill. They have just turned down plans for a housing estate on the outskirts. Winchester is a glaring example of NIMBYism! They want their lovely City to stay just the way it is, and to hell with the rest of the County!
Wrong. It's a simple fact that Winchester is the site of the head office. Nice try to blame all of the ills of the county on Winchester, but flawed. There is a body called the planning inspectorate and also district planning committees, which in this case also had no objection. The reason the housing estate was turned down is because it was on designated green belt and had no provision for a workable infrastructure. For the record, I happen to believe that such an operation should be in a designated industrial environment away from a residential area. The removal of asbestos is a very lucrative business, with the anticipated profit this company should be able to afford a more suited remote site for this particular operation.
How strange that you, apparently a Winchester resident, should want to retain the status quo, but not give a toss for what happens elsewhere!

EM27, says...
5:43pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I can't see the problem, the refinary is there, they're building the incinerator and I believe there is also a sewage works. Put all that type of stuff in one area, then it's only there that the value of housing goes down. Besides a lot of it's social housing anyway, they choose to live there, what's the problem.

nobodysitinhere says...
11:28pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I suppose it is pointless to ask why the asbestos cannot be delivered direct to the landfill site which would save handling the stuff twice?

SO45 says...
6:34pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Asbestos is very tightly regulated these days by the HSE. The company in question will be very closely monitored whilst storing the asbestos on site. If the company are found to be abusing this store, they will loose it. The bags used are very strong and that is why they double bag, just in case one does split. You are probably more in danger of asbestos from drilling into your old artex ceiling than from this store and even that is a very slim chance.

BTW, Holbury isn't all social housing. Far from it.


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