New Forest council says no to Wetherspoon's pub near historic church in Lymington (From This is Hampshire)
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New Forest council says no to Wetherspoon's pub near historic church in Lymington
7:10am Thursday 9th September 2010 in
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- By Julian Robinson » Eastleigh Chief Reporter
A PUB chain’s plans to open a watering hole just yards from an ancient church have been thrown out.
Wetherspoon wanted to convert a disused shop next to the 13th century St Thomas’s Church in Lymington into a drinking establishment.
But the plan sparked outrage amid fears it would change the face of the town centre and drive smaller pubs and eateries out of business.
Nearly 200 people objected to the application, including New Forest West MP Desmond Swayne and the influential pressure group, The Lymington Society.
Now councillors have called time on the controversial idea, claiming noisy revellers would make life a misery for neighbours.
Members of New Forest District Council’s planning development control committee voted unanimously to reject the plan.
Councillor Tony Swain added: “Lymington is a wonderful place and very special.
If we allow this sort of development here, the town won’t be special anymore.”
Planning bosses received a flurry of letters in the runup to the meeting, at Appletree Court in Lyndhurst, from those concerned that customers using the pub’s beer garden would upset people attending weddings, funerals and concerts at the church.
The vicar of St Thomas’s, the Reverend Peter Salisbury also attacked the scheme, claiming it would be “offensive to many people”.
Wetherspoon has always backed its plan, pointing to the awards it had won in the past for the way it ran establishments.
Comments(23)
Saint-Scooby
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8:32am Thu 9 Sep 10
There are now two pubs in Lymington/Pennington that are closed.
The rest are struggling.
Irate Wintonian
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8:34am Thu 9 Sep 10
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The village pub is as much a part of the community as the church.
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OK, so a Wetherspoon's pub is not quite the same, but I can see no reason why they couldn't work in perfect harmony.
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Wedding receptions and wakes would be ideal if the pub was prepared to be taken over for private functions.
News Fanatic
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8:41am Thu 9 Sep 10
Para Not Normal
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8:43am Thu 9 Sep 10
Now the NIMBY's, of the Lymington society will have to put up with chav's in their nice, nimby friendly, expensive pubs.
Tesco will love it, selling cheap beer to chav's to sit on the green space and benches all day drinking, at least with a Wetherspoon's in the town all the chav's would have been in one place.
Bad move stooping this, me thinks
Waiting
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9:12am Thu 9 Sep 10
Ted Rogers
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9:38am Thu 9 Sep 10
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Well I think that the indoctrination of children, salvation through fear and ignorance of scientific fact and basic mathematics is "offensive to many people".
Spot O'Bother
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9:41am Thu 9 Sep 10
Ferngully
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9:41am Thu 9 Sep 10
Derek_Smalls
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9:47am Thu 9 Sep 10
Elgy
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9:50am Thu 9 Sep 10
Get it right
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11:08am Thu 9 Sep 10
Ted Rogers wrote:Well said.
The vicar of St Thomas’s, the Reverend Peter Salisbury also attacked the scheme, claiming it would be “offensive to many people”. ` ` ` Well I think that the indoctrination of children, salvation through fear and ignorance of scientific fact and basic mathematics is "offensive to many people".
modrocker
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1:07pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Condor Man
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1:46pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Ted Rogers
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2:07pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Condor Man wrote:The important message being....they all lived happily ever after.... Tomorrow we'll hear about a frog that was kissed and turned into a Prince!
I think if Jesus was here he'd have no problem with the pub. Sadly the 'church' has sometimes become as important as the message. Jesus taught anywhere he could
Carries the same weight to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
clausentum
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2:49pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Ted Rogers wrote:Watch out! Religious nuts will start calling you a Toad!
Condor Man wrote:The important message being....they all lived happily ever after.... Tomorrow we'll hear about a frog that was kissed and turned into a Prince!
I think if Jesus was here he'd have no problem with the pub. Sadly the 'church' has sometimes become as important as the message. Jesus taught anywhere he could
Carries the same weight to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
"Jesus taught anywhere he could"
Did this include the Holy Land's equivalent of Wetherspoon's?
Owl
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6:42pm Thu 9 Sep 10
memush
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7:24pm Thu 9 Sep 10
B. L.
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8:58pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Irate Wintonian wrote:Back in the days of yore, country and village life was simple but hard, however, whenever you looked around and saw a church spire then you knew that there was a pub/inn/alehouse close by.
Yup.
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The village pub is as much a part of the community as the church.
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OK, so a Wetherspoon's pub is not quite the same, but I can see no reason why they couldn't work in perfect harmony.
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Wedding receptions and wakes would be ideal if the pub was prepared to be taken over for private functions.
It really must have helped out with congregational numbers, service at 1030, pub opens at 1100 :)
Condor Man
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9:09pm Thu 9 Sep 10
clausentum wrote:If you recall one of Jesus's miracles it took place at a wedding reception, so if you took the context 2000 years forward it would likely to be in a similar place- although in this case he provided all the wine.
Ted Rogers wrote:Watch out! Religious nuts will start calling you a Toad! "Jesus taught anywhere he could" Did this include the Holy Land's equivalent of Wetherspoon's?Condor Man wrote: I think if Jesus was here he'd have no problem with the pub. Sadly the 'church' has sometimes become as important as the message. Jesus taught anywhere he couldThe important message being....they all lived happily ever after.... Tomorrow we'll hear about a frog that was kissed and turned into a Prince! Carries the same weight to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
clausentum
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9:23pm Thu 9 Sep 10
Condor Man wrote:Entertaining fluff and nonsense from the Good Ol' Book of Fables and Fairytales.
clausentum wrote:If you recall one of Jesus's miracles it took place at a wedding reception, so if you took the context 2000 years forward it would likely to be in a similar place- although in this case he provided all the wine.
Ted Rogers wrote:Watch out! Religious nuts will start calling you a Toad! "Jesus taught anywhere he could" Did this include the Holy Land's equivalent of Wetherspoon's?Condor Man wrote: I think if Jesus was here he'd have no problem with the pub. Sadly the 'church' has sometimes become as important as the message. Jesus taught anywhere he couldThe important message being....they all lived happily ever after.... Tomorrow we'll hear about a frog that was kissed and turned into a Prince! Carries the same weight to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
Ted Rogers
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9:58am Fri 10 Sep 10
Condor Man wrote:The only real miracle is that this nonsense is still being banded around and gullible individuals are sucking it all in!
clausentum wrote:If you recall one of Jesus's miracles it took place at a wedding reception, so if you took the context 2000 years forward it would likely to be in a similar place- although in this case he provided all the wine.Ted Rogers wrote:Watch out! Religious nuts will start calling you a Toad! "Jesus taught anywhere he could" Did this include the Holy Land's equivalent of Wetherspoon's?Condor Man wrote: I think if Jesus was here he'd have no problem with the pub. Sadly the 'church' has sometimes become as important as the message. Jesus taught anywhere he couldThe important message being....they all lived happily ever after.... Tomorrow we'll hear about a frog that was kissed and turned into a Prince! Carries the same weight to anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
Inspectorbeaver
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9:18pm Tue 14 Sep 10
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Duncan Disorderly says...
7:43am Thu 9 Sep 10
Wetherspoons should be congratulated for planning to open pubs when so many are being closed.