Plan lodged for 450-home scheme (From This is Hampshire)
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Plan lodged for 450-home scheme
5:00pm Thursday 9th February 2012 in News By Simon Moss
PROPOSALS to build a new 450-home development to the north of Basingstoke – which will include a new primary school and community centre – have been lodged with the borough council.
David Wilson Homes Southern has applied for outline planning permission to build on land to the north of Marnel Park – a 21-hectare greenfield site between Popley and Sherborne St John.
The development is opposed by many local residents, who argued at a public consultation in September that the area has taken its fair share of new homes in recent years.
Popley East borough councillor Andy McCormick helped to organise a petition, which gained more than 700 signatures, against the proposed development.
He told The Gazette: “At the public consultation, it became obvious the developer was going to ignore all that was said by the residents and so it has proved – they have decided to push ahead with it anyway.
“We are completely opposed to this development.
“The residents have had to put up with living on a building site for 10 years now, and they deserve a breather.”
Cllr McCormick is particularly angry that it is a greenfield site that is being developed, which he said will set a “dangerous precedent” for similar sites to be built on.
David Wilson Homes has also lodged an application for full planning permission for the first phase of the development, which comprises 200 homes.
Guiseppe Zanre, planning director at David Wilson Homes, said: “David Wilson Homes Southern is proud of the existing Marnel Park development and we are looking to replicate this success through our latest proposals.
“We have completed extensive consultation and have shaped the development to best suit the needs of the local community as far as possible.”
The land has been included as a site for 450 homes in the pre-submission core strategy – a council planning document that outlines where new homes will be built in the borough.
Comments(26)
InBasingstoke
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10:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I think the people who live near Manydown need to shut up and realsie what they're actually doing.
We should build on Manydown, however a minimum house and garden size needs to be drawn up,
We should build over in Popley again because it was actually part of the furst plan anyway and we need the homes in Basingstoke and the school.
InBasingstoke
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10:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I think the people who live near Manydown need to shut up and realsie what they're actually doing.
We should build on Manydown, however a minimum house and garden size needs to be drawn up,
We should build over in Popley again because it was actually part of the furst plan anyway and we need the homes in Basingstoke and the school.
InBasingstoke
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10:46pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I think the people who live near Manydown need to shut up and realsie what they're actually doing.
We should build on Manydown, however a minimum house and garden size needs to be drawn up,
We should build over in Popley again because it was actually part of the furst plan anyway and we need the homes in Basingstoke and the school.
InBasingstoke
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10:48pm Thu 9 Feb 12
I would not want them to build on Wella.
Another buisness can go in there.
how ever... they do need to bulldoze that small 4/5 story block at the end of blatchfood.
popleyrebel2
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3:19pm Fri 10 Feb 12
We have a £25 million school sitting on a rubbish tip because the developers have stopped developing on land already passed for housing. Therefore, sell that land to Wilson Homes and let them finish of the job, keeping their greedy hand of what remains of our back yard.
MrNosey
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3:57pm Fri 10 Feb 12
"Of course we want as many people to comment, but this is a formal part of the process and there are only certain things that people can comment on, though I expect us to receive many other comments on different things as well".
I suspect that the "things people can comment on" will be extremely limited and biased towards what the Tory junta wants to happen.
So they prepare a 150 page document and expect "many" busy people to wade through that.
I hope there will be a bullet pointed synopsis.
However fair play and Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council don't go hand in hand, so I suspect the worse.
popleyrebel2
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5:02pm Fri 10 Feb 12
As for eager to concrete over Manydown, I think that’s stretching a point by a good few years, don’t you??????
popleyrebel2
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7:10pm Fri 10 Feb 12
Therefore, will it be relocated now that the developers are moving in, or will the development go ahead and build around the mast??
Would you buy a house next to a phone mast??
The _right_stuff
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10:13pm Fri 10 Feb 12
The council seem to think thats a great idea, but hey......means they don't have to build on Manydown !
Would you buy a house right next to the sewerage plant and incinerator ?
How are the estate agents and the site agents going to sell that one...brilliant skyline and views, smell of the countryside and right next to local amenities : )
You couldn't make it up, apart from the conservatives seem to !?!
The _right_stuff
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10:28pm Fri 10 Feb 12
All that building work, roadworks, disruption and dust, dirt.
I don't know who they've put up with it for so long.
And now the council have allowed another 450 houses to be built. When will it ever end for Popley.
The _right_stuff
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10:31pm Fri 10 Feb 12
popleyrebel2
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11:17pm Fri 10 Feb 12
I agree with all you say however, it would be a staggering turnaround if the mast is relocated on health reason after a convincing augments to the contrary.
If however its moved for (cosmetic reasons) to improve the chances of successful sales then that is immoral.
Won’t be around next week, hope to pick t he debate up when I return.
InBasingstoke
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11:26pm Fri 10 Feb 12
because the other side of the M3 is owned my Lord Portsmout mostly and even if it wasn't we don't want to be a town with a motoway going through it. We don't want to swallow up Old Basing... we're almost swallowed up Sherbourne St John.... but yeah Popley does need a new Primary school at least.. for the new estates anyway so Marnel doesn't have to take the hit.
popleyrebel2
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11:53pm Fri 10 Feb 12
They closed a primary down in Popley after considering the new build it was still deemed (not needed)
THX 1138
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1:15pm Sat 11 Feb 12
popleyrebel2 wrote:Depends who you listen to and/or believe, but unless there was a legally binding contract then its just political point scoring. Politicians of all parties change their mind and break promises. I am old enough to remember that back in the 70s the residents of Winklebury were promised that there would be no development west of Roman Road.
THX, can you confirm why the council purchase Manydown as it’s my understanding it was for development, and therefore, if my understanding is correct then Manydown would be concrete over. As for eager to concrete over Manydown, I think that’s stretching a point by a good few years, don’t you??????
The problem is that people are not looking at the wider picture, objecting to development in their own area (and usually for good reasons), but having no problem to development in other areas and even encouraging it, even though there may be equally valid objections. This is playing right into the developers' hands - divide and conquer and many people seem to have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
I cannot see the need or requirement for large scale development on Manydown or the Loddon Valley, but the tactics of SOLVE won't work. In the case of Manydown to me concreting over high quality greenfield agricultural land is madness, concreting over a golf course less so. However, I do have some sympathy with councillors having to implement top down housing targets - it's a thankless task.
You and others seem to believe that if you develop Manydown then developers will leave other areas alone. Believe me they won't - they will develop wherever they think they can make money. They will still want to develop the Loddon Valley and continue development around Popley/Sherborne St John.
A couple of final points - no comment yet from ex councillor Heath. I am sure he was against Manydown development, or has he now changed his mind? Finally, I actually live in Popley, so bad luck if you thought I was a nimby from Winklebury.
InBasingstoke
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1:36pm Sat 11 Feb 12
popleyrebel2 wrote:It is needed though.... isn't it? like before the build the population of Popley was like 12,000.... so I think it is needed.
InBasingstoke
They closed a primary down in Popley after considering the new build it was still deemed (not needed)
InBasingstoke
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1:38pm Sat 11 Feb 12
popleyrebel2 wrote:Winklebury is just as deprived as Popley...
InBasingstoke
They closed a primary down in Popley after considering the new build it was still deemed (not needed)
InBasingstoke
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3:26pm Sat 11 Feb 12
I mean people who complain or w/e are very likely to be a London Overspill families.... the Old Basingstoke residence before the overspill must of hated the development.
Basingstoke was basically before the 2nd world war... Sandys Road to Costello and from the South QMC to The vyne and even then most of the land between that was feilds such as where Kings Furlong and Cranbourne (Cranbourne is the area the otherside of the dual carriage way from CBEC next to grove) is now.
jondave
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3:59pm Sat 11 Feb 12
InBasingstoke wrote:Get away with you, Popley is Knightsbridge in comparison to Winklebury!!
popleyrebel2 wrote:Winklebury is just as deprived as Popley...
InBasingstoke
They closed a primary down in Popley after considering the new build it was still deemed (not needed)
InBasingstoke
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5:15pm Sun 12 Feb 12
jondave wrote:No..... just no....
InBasingstoke wrote:Get away with you, Popley is Knightsbridge in comparison to Winklebury!!
popleyrebel2 wrote:Winklebury is just as deprived as Popley...
InBasingstoke
They closed a primary down in Popley after considering the new build it was still deemed (not needed)
Jonty11
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10:21pm Mon 13 Feb 12
The _right_stuff wrote:You'd be amazed what people would happily live next to and pay through the nose for!
And would you build 950 houses right next to the incinerator and the sewerage plant ? (Bas121) The council seem to think thats a great idea, but hey......means they don't have to build on Manydown ! Would you buy a house right next to the sewerage plant and incinerator ? How are the estate agents and the site agents going to sell that one...brilliant skyline and views, smell of the countryside and right next to local amenities : ) You couldn't make it up, apart from the conservatives seem to !?!
How do you fancy a housing estate bordered by a motorway one side, the railway line the other, and just in case you fancy some fresh air, the sewage treatment farm is just over the motorway....where is it?
Welcome to Elvetham Heath in Hart, one of the most expensive estates in the area!
robertspet8
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11:28am Tue 14 Feb 12
Actually one of the most expensive in the country! You can smell the sewage works nearly every time you drive by on the M3.
InBasingstoke
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8:08pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Lychpt is more expensive than that place.
GC31
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10:21pm Wed 15 Feb 12
The _right_stuff
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11:17pm Wed 15 Feb 12
When I get my new dog, 'so long as it's not the fields where I want to walk my new dog, it will make no difference to me too'.
THX 1138 says...
5:35pm Thu 9 Feb 12
There are plenty of brownfield sites in Basingstoke with derelict and empty office blocks, but developers are always going to prefer greenfield sites because they are cheaper and generate bigger profits.