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New evidence in hunt for UFOs
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| SIGHTINGS: A black flying object over Western Docks. |
SEND YOUR UFO PICTURE OR VIDEO TO peter.law@dailyecho.co.uk
IT is the X Files style mystery that has left UFO spotters baffled.
A silent, spinning black triangle has been caught on film flying above Southampton three times in the past month - over Millbrook, Shirley and the Western Docks.
A new video - the clearest so far - was captured on a mobile phone by a passenger travelling in a car under the Millbrook flyover.
The footage - shot on Sunday, June 1 - has caused a buzz among UFO enthusiasts from across the country who have described it as the best they have seen for some time.
An investigation was even launched by Southampton Airport after a worried member of the public alerted bosses.
An airport spokeswoman said: "We received an inquiry about a UFO on Tuesday, they reported seeing a black triangle flying near Millbrook.
"We have used our web-track technology, which tracks the flight path of aircraft, but it found nothing unusual."
Southampton's flying triangle was first filmed floating high above houses in Shirley on Monday, May 5, by company director Will Campbell, 28.
He said: "We could barely see it with the naked eye, so I got my video camera out to zoom in to get a clearer picture of the object.
"At first it was slowly rising, but then seemed to stabilise at an altitude and move away into the distance. We could see it for about 15 minutes, before it eventually got too far away."
Click to watch UFO 1 video or UFO 2 video or
UFO 3 video
Mr Campbell was confident the object was not a kite as there was "absolutely" no wind that day. He added: "Its large arc across the sky also means that it was not tethered to the ground in the way an advertising blimp would be."
Steve Gerrard, founder of the now defunct Southampton UFO Group, said flying black triangles were not a new phenomenon, but had always remained a mystery.
"I have no idea what it is, that footage shot near the Millbrook flyover looks almost too good to be true. When you get a video that is so clear and sharp you have to treat it with some scepticism," he said.
$64,000 question
"However, it's very interesting as it looks too high to be a kite and it looks too crisp to be a balloon. Whether it is terrestrial or extra terrestrial is the $64,000 question."
Mr Gerrard said he had received 23 reports of mysterious objects flying over the city since the start of the year.
He added: "If this was seen by three people then it must have been seen by more. I would urge anyone who has seen anything like this to report it as we need to corroborate all the evidence."
A spokesman for the National Air Traffic Service, based in Swanwick, said it passed on all UFO sightings to the Ministry of Defence (MoD).
The MoD was unavailable for comment yesterday, but it's the department's policy to only investigate sightings that pose a specific threat to the country.
Totton College psychology lecturer Craig Roberts, who co-ordinated Britain's first ever ufology course, said previous flying black triangle sightings had been explained by stealth military aircraft and tricks of the camera.
"There has always been in years gone by a lot of black triangles spotted, but it has been years since I have seen anything as vivid as this," he said.
Other popular theories include Chinese lanterns, weather balloons, microlight and model aircraft, kites or even a secret military project.
The British UFO Research Organisation (BUFORA) said detailed information such as the make of camera, specific location, date, time and direction of travel was needed to further analyse the footage.
"There have certainly been many reports over the years of black triangles, particularly from the Derbyshire area," BUFORA chief investigator Heather Dixon said.
8:18am Thursday 12th June 2008
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CommentPosted by: It's ok on 8:30am Thu 12 Jun 08
It's ok, the aliens aren't dangerous, just coming back now and again to make sure their Messiah Lowe is alright.
It's ok, the aliens aren't dangerous, just coming back now and again to make sure their Messiah Lowe is alright.
Posted by: Fred on 8:32am Thu 12 Jun 08
"Totton College psychology lecturer Craig Roberts, who co-ordinated Britain's first ever ufology course, said previous flying black triangle sightings had been explained by stealth military aircraft and tricks of the camera."
I think we have a winner - next story please.
"Totton College psychology lecturer Craig Roberts, who co-ordinated Britain's first ever ufology course, said previous flying black triangle sightings had been explained by stealth military aircraft and tricks of the camera."
I think we have a winner - next story please.
Posted by: Andy, Locks Heath on 8:45am Thu 12 Jun 08
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
Posted by: Shane P, Soton on 8:49am Thu 12 Jun 08
Looks like a bl**dy kite to me!!
Looks like a bl**dy kite to me!!
Posted by: Gilmore, Shirley, Southampton on 8:53am Thu 12 Jun 08
Good report by the Echo, lots of sources and statements from all angles, that's what I like to see :D
The latest sighting's pretty mad. No explanation.
Good report by the Echo, lots of sources and statements from all angles, that's what I like to see :D
The latest sighting's pretty mad. No explanation.
Posted by: Oh dear on 9:01am Thu 12 Jun 08
It's a kite
Posted by: Please stand back, Southampton on 9:08am Thu 12 Jun 08
I would type more but there is a bloke in a green suit at the door asking to see my leader????? How did he know I was married?
I would type more but there is a bloke in a green suit at the door asking to see my leader????? How did he know I was married?
Posted by: Mulder on 9:24am Thu 12 Jun 08
The truth is out there.
Posted by: Ice dancer on 9:34am Thu 12 Jun 08
Why can`t we have an ice rink?
Why can`t we have an ice rink?
Posted by: Myself on 9:38am Thu 12 Jun 08
Pompey fans are the only aliens
Pompey fans are the only aliens
Posted by: bingolover, southampton on 9:39am Thu 12 Jun 08
If I had travelled millions of miles across the galaxy, I don't think I'd be stopping off at Southampton....
If I had travelled millions of miles across the galaxy, I don't think I'd be stopping off at Southampton....
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:40am Thu 12 Jun 08
It appears to be very bright, so it can't be Denzil!
It appears to be very bright, so it can't be Denzil!
Posted by: Q'aarg, planet xxogg on 9:44am Thu 12 Jun 08
Bow down before us, puny humans. If you do not build an ice rink, lower the cost of petrol to 50 Earth Pence an Earth litre, and make reality TV illegal, we will raise the temperature of your paltry planet by 1,000,000 degrees Earth Celsius every day until our demands are met
Bow down before us, puny humans. If you do not build an ice rink, lower the cost of petrol to 50 Earth Pence an Earth litre, and make reality TV illegal, we will raise the temperature of your paltry planet by 1,000,000 degrees Earth Celsius every day until our demands are met
Posted by: Captain Planet on 9:55am Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Q'aarg[/bold] wrote:
Bow down before us, puny humans. If you do not build an ice rink, lower the cost of petrol to 50 Earth Pence an Earth litre, and make reality TV illegal, we will raise the temperature of your paltry planet by 1,000,000 degrees Earth Celsius every day until our demands are met[/quote] Your puny threats do not scare me.
Q'aarg wrote:
Bow down before us, puny humans. If you do not build an ice rink, lower the cost of petrol to 50 Earth Pence an Earth litre, and make reality TV illegal, we will raise the temperature of your paltry planet by 1,000,000 degrees Earth Celsius every day until our demands are met
Your puny threats do not scare me.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 9:57am Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Myself[/bold] wrote:
Pompey fans are the only aliens[/quote] You may consider us aliens because you do not see us in your city. The reason being, we inhabit areas where there is Premier League football.
Myself wrote:
Pompey fans are the only aliens
You may consider us aliens because you do not see us in your city. The reason being, we inhabit areas where there is Premier League football.
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Posted by: Mrs. De Pointe on 10:00am Thu 12 Jun 08
Looks more like a big yellow ring, like those new types of frisbees some dog owners like to use.
Looks more like a big yellow ring, like those new types of frisbees some dog owners like to use.
Posted by: Zog, The Thurd Sector on 10:16am Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Guffy Sparkle[/bold] wrote:
01000100011001010111 00110111010001110010 01101111011110010010 00000110000101101100 01101100001000000110 10000111010101101101 01100001011011100111 001100100001[/quote] There's no need for THAT sort of language...this is a family site, y'know :-(
Guffy Sparkle wrote:
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There's no need for THAT sort of language...this is a family site, y'know :-(
Posted by: Steve Gerrard, Southampton on 10:17am Thu 12 Jun 08
Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind.
Steve Gerrard
Editor of UFONEWS UK
Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind.
Steve Gerrard
Editor of UFONEWS UK
Posted by: I hate Aliens, Area 51 on 10:22am Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Steve Gerrard[/bold] wrote:
Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind. Steve Gerrard Editor of UFONEWS UK[/quote] Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.
Steve Gerrard wrote:
Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind. Steve Gerrard Editor of UFONEWS UK
Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 11:06am Thu 12 Jun 08
I dont think that aliens would bother visiting our planet to refuel considering the cost of petrol these days......
I dont think that aliens would bother visiting our planet to refuel considering the cost of petrol these days......
Posted by: Denzil on 11:09am Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote:
I dont think that aliens would bother visiting our planet to refuel considering the cost of petrol these days......[/quote] [bold]LOL BRILLIANT, ROFL.[/bold]
MY HERO
King Mush wrote:
I dont think that aliens would bother visiting our planet to refuel considering the cost of petrol these days......
LOL BRILLIANT, ROFL.
MY HERO
Posted by: Pete, Netley on 11:14am Thu 12 Jun 08
Of all the "UFO" pictures I've seen on the Echo wbsite, this is the first one I've seen where the device, whatever it is, has a halo . . .
Of all the "UFO" pictures I've seen on the Echo wbsite, this is the first one I've seen where the device, whatever it is, has a halo . . .
Posted by: we're here on 11:28am Thu 12 Jun 08
Ever wondered why we have become to technically advanced (ie last 50/60 years) ever since we have come in contact with Aliens (Roswell) ??
Ever wondered why we have become to technically advanced (ie last 50/60 years) ever since we have come in contact with Aliens (Roswell) ??
Posted by: Banksy, C/Ford on 11:29am Thu 12 Jun 08
That's it... We're doomed!!!
That's it... We're doomed!!!
Posted by: Alien, On Mars on 1:05pm Thu 12 Jun 08
We wanted to watch Bon Jovi live
We wanted to watch Bon Jovi live
Posted by: Woolie, Millbrook, Southampton. on 1:15pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote]quote[/quote] A new video - the clearest so far - was captured on a mobile phone by a passenger travelling in a car under the Millbrook flyover.[quote]quote[/quote]
Watched the video, I'm sure the car travelled over the flyover?!?
quote
A new video - the clearest so far - was captured on a mobile phone by a passenger travelling in a car under the Millbrook flyover.
quote
Watched the video, I'm sure the car travelled over the flyover?!?
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 1:39pm Thu 12 Jun 08
the pic in the echo looks like iit was taken at redbridge roundabout just has you pass under the footbridge
the pic in the echo looks like iit was taken at redbridge roundabout just has you pass under the footbridge
Posted by: southy, redbridge on 2:00pm Thu 12 Jun 08
i just watch the video woolie it was taken from redbridge roundabout to just the other side off millbrook rail station
looking at the angle from one location to the other end its not very big and is not that high up,so on this one i be more encline to think its a kite of some sort
i just watch the video woolie it was taken from redbridge roundabout to just the other side off millbrook rail station
looking at the angle from one location to the other end its not very big and is not that high up,so on this one i be more encline to think its a kite of some sort
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 3:21pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
It appears to be very bright, so it can't be Denzil![/quote] I think you are wrong sailor, it could have been Denzil.
It was hanging around, doing nothing, and looked like 'nothing on earth', so it could well have been 'The Chump from Chilworth'.
sailor sam wrote:
It appears to be very bright, so it can't be Denzil!
I think you are wrong sailor, it could have been Denzil.
It was hanging around, doing nothing, and looked like 'nothing on earth', so it could well have been 'The Chump from Chilworth'.
Posted by: P. iles, Soton on 3:51pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Mrs de Pointe - A big yellow ring ! Go private and soon, it might be contagious.
Mrs de Pointe - A big yellow ring ! Go private and soon, it might be contagious.
Posted by: Denzil, Mars on 4:06pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Oh hi everyone no need for panic that wasn't a UFO it was just me parking my car. To the daily echo writers, you need to open your eyes more and find better stories... P.S i will be back to comment pointlessly and annoyingly on other unrelated stories
Oh hi everyone no need for panic that wasn't a UFO it was just me parking my car. To the daily echo writers, you need to open your eyes more and find better stories... P.S i will be back to comment pointlessly and annoyingly on other unrelated stories
Posted by: sex maniac on 4:13pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Black triangles mean only one thing to me.
Bikini bottoms.
Black triangles mean only one thing to me.
Bikini bottoms.
Posted by: Daz, Freemantle on 4:17pm Thu 12 Jun 08
I saw this a couple of weeks ago, using a highly sophisticated optical aid....... well ok a pair of binoculars, showed it had a flame underneath it and a small basket. Definately Aliens then ;o)
I saw this a couple of weeks ago, using a highly sophisticated optical aid....... well ok a pair of binoculars, showed it had a flame underneath it and a small basket. Definately Aliens then ;o)
Posted by: Anti-Terrorism Trevor on 4:32pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[bold]BANG UM UP[/bold]
[bold]BANG UM UP[/bold]
Posted by: billy 2 baps, Waiting for my whistle on 4:36pm Thu 12 Jun 08
I'm more worried about the scarey black shape in the foreground. Looks to me look a gun (lazer) sticking out for the top of the bigger UFO
I'm more worried about the scarey black shape in the foreground. Looks to me look a gun (lazer) sticking out for the top of the bigger UFO
Posted by: Wewullywinky on 4:40pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]I hate Aliens[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Steve Gerrard[/bold] wrote: Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind. Steve Gerrard Editor of UFONEWS UK[/quote] Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly. If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.[/quote] Aliens do exist they run our councils and central government. Gordon Brown isn't from Scotland but from a far away plant in alpha-century.
I hate Aliens wrote:
Steve Gerrard wrote: Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind. Steve Gerrard Editor of UFONEWS UK
Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly. If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.
Aliens do exist they run our councils and central government. Gordon Brown isn't from Scotland but from a far away plant in alpha-century.
Posted by: JK, Salford on 5:15pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Amazing...clear footage, someone with a steady hand....just what all sceptics demand, yet that is still not good enough for them...even for Steve Gerrard. That is no kite. It does not drift or get agitated in the slightest.
Amazing...clear footage, someone with a steady hand....just what all sceptics demand, yet that is still not good enough for them...even for Steve Gerrard. That is no kite. It does not drift or get agitated in the slightest.
Posted by: Ken, Stubbington on 5:33pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Great 'bleepover' in the video, which in no way disguises the use of the 'F' word.
Great 'bleepover' in the video, which in no way disguises the use of the 'F' word.
Posted by: Duh, Southampton on 5:42pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Have a listen to video 1. Apart from the guy using the F word which is obvious even with the beep, listen to the dumb blonde, who says 'maybe it might be like a satelite'
It looks like a Stealth bomber to me, possibly after the dumb blonde.
Have a listen to video 1. Apart from the guy using the F word which is obvious even with the beep, listen to the dumb blonde, who says 'maybe it might be like a satelite'
It looks like a Stealth bomber to me, possibly after the dumb blonde.
Posted by: Duh, Southampton on 5:46pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Duh[/bold] wrote:
Have a listen to video 1. Apart from the guy using the F word which is obvious even with the beep, listen to the dumb blonde, who says 'maybe it might be like a satelite' It looks like a Stealth bomber to me, possibly after the dumb blonde.[/quote] Well..... it did look like a stealth bomber until I watched the other 2 clips LOL
It's a weird shaped airship isn't it? You can see something at the bottom, like the cabin area?
Duh wrote:
Have a listen to video 1. Apart from the guy using the F word which is obvious even with the beep, listen to the dumb blonde, who says 'maybe it might be like a satelite' It looks like a Stealth bomber to me, possibly after the dumb blonde.
Well..... it did look like a stealth bomber until I watched the other 2 clips LOL
It's a weird shaped airship isn't it? You can see something at the bottom, like the cabin area?
Posted by: rock and roll on 6:20pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Maybe the filthy skanks from millbrook can charge to get a good view from millbrook towers and pay for their own skank lift.
Then after it's exposed that it was all a big con by the junkies that nest there, they can have a party like the one they're going to have just for getting the lift.
Maybe then, one may venture out of the nest and write a book about how they had the UFO community over, on that funny year of 2008 and use the money to bring the area into an average state of affairs.
Buy hey... i'm impartial here, so maybe a more extreme form of reasoning could un-cover the truth.
Maybe the filthy skanks from millbrook can charge to get a good view from millbrook towers and pay for their own skank lift.
Then after it's exposed that it was all a big con by the junkies that nest there, they can have a party like the one they're going to have just for getting the lift.
Maybe then, one may venture out of the nest and write a book about how they had the UFO community over, on that funny year of 2008 and use the money to bring the area into an average state of affairs.
Buy hey... i'm impartial here, so maybe a more extreme form of reasoning could un-cover the truth.
Posted by: James Miller, Shirly soton on 6:24pm Thu 12 Jun 08
I saw this black triangle thing. It flew of out of a garden around my house. I got a close look and im sorry to disappoint peeps but it was just a big black bin bag. But keep watching the skys.
I saw this black triangle thing. It flew of out of a garden around my house. I got a close look and im sorry to disappoint peeps but it was just a big black bin bag. But keep watching the skys.
Posted by: Ooh, Psychological. on 6:29pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason. [/quote] I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor?
Grr..!
I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.
Andy wrote:
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor?
Grr..!
I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.
Posted by: harry on 6:33pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote]Ooh, Psychological. on 6:29pm today
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote: To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason. [/quote] I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor? Grr..! I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.
Andy wrote:
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor?
Grr..!
I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.[/quote]
Wooooo, swallowed a dictionary have you?
Ooh, Psychological. on 6:29pm today
Andy wrote: To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor? Grr..! I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.
Andy wrote:
To those who think UFOs are craft piloted by aliens , can they explain why having crossed the universe to get here their craft apparently has to spin round and round? Would be pretty uncomfortable inside for such an advanced race of beings? One would have thought they had found a way round this design flaw. Perhaps this explains why Craig Roberts lectures in psychology, and not in a proper subject requiring logic, evidence and reason.
I'm not bothered by the UFO thing, but psychology is most definitely a 'proper' subject including a lot of mathematics and biology. I bet you can't explain how Fluoxetine hydrochloride acts as a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor?
Grr..!
I would have liked to have seen the floaty thing, I feel left out.
Wooooo, swallowed a dictionary have you?
Posted by: Ooh, psychological again on 6:39pm Thu 12 Jun 08
No... I just love my subject a bit too much and get a bit defensive!!
No... I just love my subject a bit too much and get a bit defensive!!
Posted by: harry on 6:49pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote]Ooh, psychological again on 6:39pm today
No... I just love my subject a bit too much and get a bit defensive!![/quote]
Do you get paid extra for these courses?
Ooh, psychological again on 6:39pm today
No... I just love my subject a bit too much and get a bit defensive!!
Do you get paid extra for these courses?
Posted by: Council WORKER, Southampton on 9:25pm Thu 12 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Steve Gerrard[/bold] wrote:
Thought I would throw my 2p\\\'s worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its \\\'box\\\'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind.
Steve Gerrard
Editor of UFONEWS UK[/quote] Hello Mr Steve, was nice meeting you at the weekend (that place near Fareham)
Steve Gerrard wrote:
Thought I would throw my 2p's worth in... Kite, most probably, Balloon, possible, Alien craft NO. We must remember that this was posted on YouTub so no independent witnesses, no independent paperwork to back up source, no detailed information and not reported to any official body i.e. Police, MoD etc or local UFO groups / investigator. You have to treat the report with 100% scepticism. There IS some kind of life out there without doubt! But not as we know it. Little green men, that is in the cinemas... There must be some kind of bacterial life out there at least. But who knows. The human brain will only accept hard evidence and will not accept things that it cannot perceive outside of its 'box'. i.e. At one time we thought the world was flat and you would fall off the edge? So, an open mind is sometimes a closed mind.
Steve Gerrard
Editor of UFONEWS UK
Hello Mr Steve, was nice meeting you at the weekend (that place near Fareham)
Posted by: Ooh, psychological...! on 9:36pm Thu 12 Jun 08
No, Harry, I don't get paid at all because I am just a psychology student.
No, Harry, I don't get paid at all because I am just a psychology student.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 10:27pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Posted by: we're here on 11:28am today
[bold]Quote [/bold] Ever wondered why we have become to technically advanced (ie last 50/60years)
[bold]Reply [/bold] Good comment [bold]we're here.[/bold]
Here are two other interesting [bold]facts[/bold] :
1 In [bold]1995[/bold] Windows 95 is and launched completely changes the way we use Computers.
2 In [bold]1995[/bold] [bold] The Worlds First 'Global High Capacity Supercontroller & System'[/bold] is Formulated and Designed.
[bold]BT[/bold] have the systems formula and the designs of the system and yet [bold]they don't use it.[/bold]
Whereas they could of had [bold]Global High Capacity control[/bold] of all Networks.
Instead of being the [bold]strongest[/bold] force in the World in Communications BT [bold]collapses to financial ruin[/bold] with 33 Billion of debt.
I wonder what thier [bold]shareholders[/bold] would have done ([bold]who lost billions[/bold] ) if they had [bold]this knowledge?[/bold]
[bold]Most interesting[/bold] of all, this System now used by the MOD and named [bold]A.N.P.D.S.[/bold] Was designed by a [bold]Biscuit Packer[/bold] with [bold]NO[/bold] prior knowledge of advanced IT.
Try and explain that [bold]if you can?[/bold]
Posted by: we're here on 11:28am today
Quote Ever wondered why we have become to technically advanced (ie last 50/60years)
Reply Good comment
we're here.
Here are two other interesting
facts :
1 In
1995 Windows 95 is and launched completely changes the way we use Computers.
2 In
1995 The Worlds First 'Global High Capacity Supercontroller & System' is Formulated and Designed.
BT have the systems formula and the designs of the system and yet
they don't use it.
Whereas they could of had
Global High Capacity control of all Networks.
Instead of being the
strongest force in the World in Communications BT
collapses to financial ruin with 33 Billion of debt.
I wonder what thier
shareholders would have done (
who lost billions ) if they had
this knowledge?
Most interesting of all, this System now used by the MOD and named
A.N.P.D.S. Was designed by a
Biscuit Packer with
NO prior knowledge of advanced IT.
Try and explain that
if you can?
Posted by: Mr Black Triangle, over the sky on 10:43pm Thu 12 Jun 08
I have been in contact with the mother ship.
They want somthing you have.
I have told them you do not have it.
But they say you do.
They said they are comming to get it, take it.
I have been in contact with the mother ship.
They want somthing you have.
I have told them you do not have it.
But they say you do.
They said they are comming to get it, take it.
Posted by: Captain Runway, Canada on 12:57am Fri 13 Jun 08
[quote]Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.[/quote]
You are assuming that you are the smarter being in this equation. --Rather than that you are inadequately developed enough to grasp the reasons for why certain things happen. --I can think of half a dozen logical reasons for why the alien phenomenon presents itself as it does, much of which is reflected by information made available through channeled sources of purported alien origin. (This info is available to anybody who bothers to search. Go look!). Is this information accurate? That's for the researcher to judge. What I [italic]can[/italic] tell you is that "there" grasp of both grammar and logic makes you look like an ape by contrast.
Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly "Superior". More like idiotic.
You are assuming that you are the smarter being in this equation. --Rather than that you are inadequately developed enough to grasp the reasons for why certain things happen. --I can think of half a dozen logical reasons for why the alien phenomenon presents itself as it does, much of which is reflected by information made available through channeled sources of purported alien origin. (This info is available to anybody who bothers to search. Go look!). Is this information accurate? That's for the researcher to judge. What I
can tell you is that "there" grasp of both grammar and logic makes you look like an ape by contrast.
Posted by: a scientist, in despair on 12:28pm Fri 13 Jun 08
[quote][bold]Captain Runway[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly \"Superior\". More like idiotic.[/quote]
You are assuming that you are the smarter being in this equation. --Rather than that you are inadequately developed enough to grasp the reasons for why certain things happen. --I can think of half a dozen logical reasons for why the alien phenomenon presents itself as it does, much of which is reflected by information made available through channeled sources of purported alien origin. (This info is available to anybody who bothers to search. Go look!). Is this information accurate? That\'s for the researcher to judge. What I [italic]can[/italic] tell you is that \"there\" grasp of both grammar and logic makes you look like an ape by contrast.[/quote] totally agree, if people like this seem to have formulated such intelligent answers then they want to try and learn the language to write them in......muppets! You will find half of the neanderthals passing judgement have no concept of life other than an arm chair with beer and scratching their.......arms. So these highly educated morons are really best placed to determine the possibility of something outside of their extensive box of reality. I do firmly believe in fact and reason, however there are some things that do defy rational explanation, so maybe if the morons flicked over from Coronation street once in a while they might find programs that grow their pea sized brain slightly!
Captain Runway wrote:
Aliens dont exist as they would be here already and wouldnt spend there time abducting morons and appearing in the sky randomly.
If these are aliens they are hardly \"Superior\". More like idiotic.
You are assuming that you are the smarter being in this equation. --Rather than that you are inadequately developed enough to grasp the reasons for why certain things happen. --I can think of half a dozen logical reasons for why the alien phenomenon presents itself as it does, much of which is reflected by information made available through channeled sources of purported alien origin. (This info is available to anybody who bothers to search. Go look!). Is this information accurate? That\'s for the researcher to judge. What I can tell you is that \"there\" grasp of both grammar and logic makes you look like an ape by contrast.
totally agree, if people like this seem to have formulated such intelligent answers then they want to try and learn the language to write them in......muppets! You will find half of the neanderthals passing judgement have no concept of life other than an arm chair with beer and scratching their.......arms. So these highly educated morons are really best placed to determine the possibility of something outside of their extensive box of reality. I do firmly believe in fact and reason, however there are some things that do defy rational explanation, so maybe if the morons flicked over from Coronation street once in a while they might find programs that grow their pea sized brain slightly!
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:15am Sat 14 Jun 08
Decide for your self:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=aGm_RhR-f
sY
Decide for your self:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=aGm_RhR-f
sY
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:18am Sat 14 Jun 08
www.edgrimsley.com
Watch "raw footage" video for sure.
www.edgrimsley.com
Watch "raw footage" video for sure.
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:21am Sat 14 Jun 08
UFO makes emergency landing and catches brush on fire:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Xx8__ZPOt
IE&feature=relat
ed
UFO makes emergency landing and catches brush on fire:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Xx8__ZPOt
IE&feature=relat
ed
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:22am Sat 14 Jun 08
Massive ufo brigade over New York City:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=5LF30KnyP
eE
Massive ufo brigade over New York City:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=5LF30KnyP
eE
Posted by: ralph, USA on 12:25am Sat 14 Jun 08
Check out the big one in the center at the end of video:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=iKzzsM-__
sg
Check out the big one in the center at the end of video:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=iKzzsM-__
sg
Posted by: ralph, USA on 12:26am Sat 14 Jun 08
It would be nice if this site would let you click on the Youtube links and go straight to them. Oh well...
It would be nice if this site would let you click on the Youtube links and go straight to them. Oh well...
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:28am Sat 14 Jun 08
NASA tether incident:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=As-wYmFYb
3I
NASA tether incident:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=As-wYmFYb
3I
Posted by: ralph, USA on 12:30am Sat 14 Jun 08
Dan Aykroyd introduces fim. "Evidence The Case for NASA ufo"
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=EMh3CgdZ5
6Q
Dan Aykroyd introduces fim. "Evidence The Case for NASA ufo"
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=EMh3CgdZ5
6Q
Posted by: Ralph, USA on 12:31am Sat 14 Jun 08
The Secret NASA Transmissions:http:/
/www.youtube.com/wat
ch?v=UxKy_dbjayY
The Secret NASA Transmissions:http:/
/www.youtube.com/wat
ch?v=UxKy_dbjayY
Posted by: crazations.tv, Deutschland on 12:48am Sat 14 Jun 08
Anyone who has an iPhone knows that alien technology exists...
They are formed from a solid block of ether in area 51 and distributed via a CIA front company in China.
Anyone who has an iPhone knows that alien technology exists...
They are formed from a solid block of ether in area 51 and distributed via a CIA front company in China.
Posted by: Jospeh Capp, USA on 4:18am Sat 14 Jun 08
What a bunch of dumb comments. Repeat after me. Bases, Bases, Bases. Second The quote "Totton College psychology lecturer Craig Roberts, who co-ordinated Britain's first ever ufology course, said previous flying black triangle sightings had been explained by stealth military aircraft and tricks of the camera."
Is just not true does anyone even know about the Belgium Triangle which was filmed caught on tape chased by Jets and is was considered by the head of the Belgium Air force to be not from this world and he believes it to this day
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
What a bunch of dumb comments. Repeat after me. Bases, Bases, Bases. Second The quote "Totton College psychology lecturer Craig Roberts, who co-ordinated Britain's first ever ufology course, said previous flying black triangle sightings had been explained by stealth military aircraft and tricks of the camera."
Is just not true does anyone even know about the Belgium Triangle which was filmed caught on tape chased by Jets and is was considered by the head of the Belgium Air force to be not from this world and he believes it to this day
Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog
Posted by: Franky, Londinium on 5:14am Sat 14 Jun 08
Why do they call it [bold]Hants?
Is it because they don't know how to spell? London is the center of the universe.
Why do they call it Hants?
Is it because they don't know how to spell? London is the center of the universe.
Posted by: Patrick Sullivan, Des Moines on 7:05am Sat 14 Jun 08
It's the Nuclear weapons stupid!
Look around the area that ET is buzzing.
Queeny and her Royal Sheenies have 'smoked us already.
Get a clue.
It's the Nuclear weapons stupid!
Look around the area that ET is buzzing.
Queeny and her Royal Sheenies have 'smoked us already.
Get a clue.
Posted by: Big Boy, Hythe on 8:32am Sat 14 Jun 08
It's God! (or a hang glider)
It's God! (or a hang glider)
Posted by: Rob, Bristol UK on 9:37am Sat 14 Jun 08
For all those who still live under the delusion that alien life does not exist, I can assure you with 100% certainty that it does, and that it is here. It has been here for many years, and can move around this planet with impunity. I am not some drug crazed idiot, I am a 52 year old data analyst. Due to a million to one chance occurence a few years back I had all the evidence 2" from my nose. I know they are here, the governments know it, NASA knows it, the military knows it. I don't need anyone to 'confirm' it. I already know it. Why are they here?, my theory is that this planet is the only source of water, oxygen and other minerals for millions of miles, only one species on this planet is destroying it. If you had termites in your house, what would you do?
For all those who still live under the delusion that alien life does not exist, I can assure you with 100% certainty that it does, and that it is here. It has been here for many years, and can move around this planet with impunity. I am not some drug crazed idiot, I am a 52 year old data analyst. Due to a million to one chance occurence a few years back I had all the evidence 2" from my nose. I know they are here, the governments know it, NASA knows it, the military knows it. I don't need anyone to 'confirm' it. I already know it. Why are they here?, my theory is that this planet is the only source of water, oxygen and other minerals for millions of miles, only one species on this planet is destroying it. If you had termites in your house, what would you do?
Posted by: DarkestKnight on 1:02pm Sat 14 Jun 08
To debunk, just look at this please.
http://www.truveo.co
m/Solar-Balloons-Sol
ar-Hot-Air-Balloons-
Heated-By/id/3547394
318
To debunk, just look at this please.
http://www.truveo.co
m/Solar-Balloons-Sol
ar-Hot-Air-Balloons-
Heated-By/id/3547394
318
Posted by: DarkestKnight on 1:24pm Sat 14 Jun 08
Even better web-site to address comments on speed, movement, shape, etc.
solar-balloons.com
The site has more info on more solar balloon shapes and trial flights. e.g. one un-tethered balloon flight traveled almost 100mph (for those that claim balloons can't move very fast).
I have no personal or financial interest in the site or its owners.
Even better web-site to address comments on speed, movement, shape, etc.
solar-balloons.com
The site has more info on more solar balloon shapes and trial flights. e.g. one un-tethered balloon flight traveled almost 100mph (for those that claim balloons can't move very fast).
I have no personal or financial interest in the site or its owners.
Posted by: Mohrphaeus, Rio de Janeiro on 4:31pm Sat 14 Jun 08
See last Barbury Castle's Crop Formation encoding the constant Pi. They are in contact, fellows! South Korea got a VERY nice one, too.
See last Barbury Castle's Crop Formation encoding the constant Pi. They are in contact, fellows! South Korea got a VERY nice one, too.
Posted by: ThatGuy, USA on 4:41pm Sat 14 Jun 08
[bold]That craft is US Black Ops Craft. Its called the TR-3B or TR-3VA, or just TR-3. Also names are Black Manta, and the Aurora Project (i believ). It is a silent craft that uses anti-internial technology. I creates an EM vortex using a rotating (50000 rpm) plasmacized mercury filled torus, that causes the wanted intertial and gravity disruption due to the helical spin of the electrons around the ring. do some research, kids.[/bold]
That craft is US Black Ops Craft. Its called the TR-3B or TR-3VA, or just TR-3. Also names are Black Manta, and the Aurora Project (i believ). It is a silent craft that uses anti-internial technology. I creates an EM vortex using a rotating (50000 rpm) plasmacized mercury filled torus, that causes the wanted intertial and gravity disruption due to the helical spin of the electrons around the ring. do some research, kids. Posted by: MeatwadGetsIt, San Diego Ca USA on 9:28pm Sat 14 Jun 08
For those that feel there is never and will not be life out in the universe, they believe in fairy tales aka religion.
Look folks, we are not special among the stars, get a clue. Given enough time, technology will void those distances as far as traveling goes.
I know for a fact, power is obtained without a need to feed a fuel to get it, I could make the thing given the materials and tools.
Aliens from other worlds, Yes. This one being one, I don't know, windows crashes if I try to see them. We are far from making those grand leaps.
For those that feel there is never and will not be life out in the universe, they believe in fairy tales aka religion.
Look folks, we are not special among the stars, get a clue. Given enough time, technology will void those distances as far as traveling goes.
I know for a fact, power is obtained without a need to feed a fuel to get it, I could make the thing given the materials and tools.
Aliens from other worlds, Yes. This one being one, I don't know, windows crashes if I try to see them. We are far from making those grand leaps.
Posted by: Roy Smith, Pottersville on 6:46pm Mon 16 Jun 08
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Testimony of 60 Government & Military Witnesses
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This 10-page summary of witness testimony on UFO facts is taken from the book Disclosure, compiled by Steven M. Greer, MD. Page numbers from the book for each excerpt are given at the end of each statement. These testimonies were taken verbatim from video interviews with the witnesses, which include astronauts, generals, admirals, other top government and military officials. Both the book and witness videos can be purchased at the website www.disclosureprojec
t.org. For a two-page summary of these UFO facts, click here.
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Disclosure Project, Founder and Director, Editor of Disclosure, Steven M. Greer, MD
Advanced spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin have been downed, retrieved and studied since at least the 1940s. Significant technological breakthroughs in energy generation and propulsion have resulted from the study of these objects. We have insiders and scientists who can prove that we do in fact possess energy generation systems capable of completely and permanently replacing all forms of currently used energy generation and transportation systems. The witnesses who have given testimony are extraordinarily brave men and women who have taken great personal risks in coming forward. Some have been threatened and intimidated. Not a single one of them has been paid for his or her testimony. Classified, above top-secret projects possess new energy generation systems that, if put into peaceful uses, would empower a new human civilization without want, poverty, or environmental damage. Every single person who is concerned about the environment and the human future should call for urgent hearings to allow these technologies to be disclosed, declassified and safely applied. pp. 5, 13 - 15. See also Dr. Greer’s information-packed websites at www.disclosureprojec
t.org, and www.theorionproject.
org.
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THE COVER-UP: UFOs
Apollo 14 Astronaut, Edgar Mitchell, Ph.D. Aeronautics, MIT, 6th man to walk on moon
Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with government at this point, but certainly were at one time, that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge or not permit it to be widely disseminated….Perhap
s a large part of the activity that’s classified as UFO abductions may very well not be due to ET activity at all. I would suspect if any is due to ET activity, it is a rather small part. A larger potion is due to human activity in a very clandestine fashion….People in high level government have very, very little, if any, valid information about this. Most have no more knowledge than the man in the street….[As to] the question, “How could it be kept secret?” It hasn’t been kept secret. It’s been there all along. But it has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out….I believe it is a very important effort that we get Congressional oversight of all this. But so far that hasn’t happened. pp. 61-64. See also The Way of the Explorer, Edgar Mitchell and Dwight Williams, p. 212.
US Navy Pilot, Lieutenant Frederick Fox
There is a publication called JANAP 146E that had a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000 fine and ten years in jail. I never reported anything to FAA or the military. A lot of pilots just did not want to get involved in this because of peer pressure and ridicule. So the secret has been kept. pp. 45, 146. More here.
Director of CIA, Vice Admiral R.H. Hillenkoetter
It is time for the truth to be brought out in open Congressional hearings. Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel. p. 58, from New York Times, February 28, 1960, p. L30, click to see original archived article and learn how to order it direct from the Times.
Deputy Chief of the Belgian Royal Air Force, Major General Wilfred de Brouwer
The Air Force has arrived [at] the conclusion that a number of anomalous phenomena have been produced within Belgian airspace. Not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signaled. p. 60.
Vatican Theologian, Insider Close to the Pope, Monsignor Corrado Balducci
We can’t anymore deny that something is happening here in this field of ufology. Not just flying saucers, but there might be actual people, beings, extraterrestrial beings. p. 64. More here.
FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations, John Callahan
This particular incident started with a phone call from the people in Alaska….I said, “What’s the problem?” He said, “Well, it’s that UFO. The UFO was bouncing around the 747 here”….They brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA, and three people form Reagan’s scientific study team. Well, I’ve been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened….For those people who say that if these UFOs existed, they would some day be on radar and that there’d be professionals who would see it, then I can tell them that back in 1986, there were enough professional people that saw it. What I can tell you is what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I’ve got a videotape. I’ve got the voice tape. And I’ve got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I’ve been telling you. pp. 79-85. For more, click here.
Mercury & Gemini Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper
At Edwards Air Force Base I was having some of the cameramen film precision landings. A saucer flew right over them, put down three landing gears, and landed out on the dry lakebed. They went out there with their cameras towards the UFO. It lifted off and flew off at a very high rate of speed….I had a chance to hold it [the film] up to the window to look at it. Good close-up shots. There was no doubt in my mind that it was made someplace other than on this earth….In my opinion they were worried it would panic the public if they knew that someone had vehicles that had this kind of performance. So they started telling lies about it. Then I think they had to cover it with another lie. Now they don’t know how to get out of it. pp. 225 - 229. See also Gordon Cooper & Bruce Henderson, Leap of Faith: An Astronaut’s Journey into the Unknown, pp. 80 - 91, 194 - 200.
US Air Force, Sergeant Chuck Sorrells
In those days [1965], every base had what they called a UFO officer. p. 98.
US Air Force, Sergeant Michael W. Smith
I was on the radar, and NORAD called me and informed me that there was a UFO coming up the California coast. I said, “What do you want me to do?” And they said, “Nothing. Just watch it. Don’t write it down.” I believe the technology they [secret projects based on UFO technology] have could enable us to stop burning our fossil fuels and stop the damage to the ozone. p. 45, 109. More here.
US Navy, Commander Graham Bethune
[The UFO] was very large. It came up to 10,000 feet like that—a fraction of a second. I thought it was going to go right through us. So I disengaged the autopilot, pushed the nose over, because I was going to go under it at the angle that it was coming toward me….We were not supposed to tell even our wives of our encounter….My boss told me that they had a craft back there, and they did have ET bodies. Now he’s not the first one that ever told me that. p. 113, 117, 118. For more, click here.
Mexico City Senior Air Traffic Controller, Enrique Kolbeck
When you have the view of the airspace and the radar screen [and] you see the UFOs go around twenty or thirty miles a second—that is very real. They can turn suddenly almost 90 degrees in a second or half a second. The UFOs can go vertically straight up very quickly. p. 129.
NASA Research Scientist (Gemini, Apollo, Skylab), Dr. Richard Haines
Air Catalogue is a rather extensive library I’ve been collecting for almost 30 years from commercial, private, and test pilots. I have over 3,000 cases. My estimate is that for every pilot who does come forward, and makes a confidential or a public report, there are 20, 30 other pilots who don’t. p. 131. For more, click here
US Army, Sergeant Stephen Lovekin (Brigadier General in North Carolina State Guard)
One afternoon when we were just about ready to finish up training, Colonel Holomon brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic debris. He went on to explain that this was material that had come from a New Mexico crash in 1947 of an extraterrestrial craft, and that was discussed at length….I got an opportunity to travel with the President [Eisenhower]. He was very, very interested in the shapes and sizes of the UFOs and what made them go….But what happened was that Eisenhower got sold out. He realized that he was losing control of the UFO subject. He realized that the phenomenon was not going to be in the best hands. That was a real concern….It had been discussed with me on numerous occasions what could happen to me militarily if I discussed this. Threats have been made and carried out. This [UFOs] being the biggest security situation that this country has ever dealt with, there have been some erasures….He said, “You will be erased—disappear.” Those threats have been made and carried out. Those threats started way back in 1947. They will go after not only you, they will go after your family. pp. 33, 230-237.
US Air Force, Lieutenant Colonel Dwynne Arneson
I was a top secret control officer. I happened to see a classified message go through my com [communications] center which said, “A UFO has crashed on the Island of Spitsbergen, Norway, and a team of scientists are coming to investigate it.” p. 176. For more, click here.
US Navy, National Security Agency, James Kopf
The UFO incident occurred on the USS John F. Kennedy in the summer of 1971. We observed a large, glowing sphere over the ship. It looked huge. I would say it was anywhere from three or four hundred feet to a quarter of a mile depending on how high it was. A few days later, the Commanding Officer looked at the camera – and I will never forget this – and he said, “I would like to remind the crew that certain events that take place on board a major combat vessel are considered classified and should not be discussed with anyone without a need to know.” p. 203. For more, click here.
US Navy Atlantic Command, Merle Shane McDow
We had contact with an unidentified flying object that had entered our air space. The order was given by Admiral Trane to get this object forced down out of the sky if at all possible, by whatever means possible….Two gentlemen began to question me about this event. They were being pretty rough. I remember literally putting my hands up and saying, “Wait a minute fellows. I’m on your side.” My logbook, I never did see that again. pp. 241 - 244. For more, click here.
Canadian Transport Department, Senior Radio Engineer, Wilbur Smith
Flying saucers exist. The matter is the most highly classified subject in the US Government, rating higher even than the H-bomb. p. 272.
Marine Corps, Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt
It was buried in the side of a cliff. When I first saw it, I was scared. It [was] real strange. I think the creatures calmed me. It was weird. I think they were trying to communicate with me, like, I guess, telepathically. It is really weird, and I don’t believe in any of that stuff. [Immediately after this] I was arrested. I thought they were going to kill me. He was saying, “Are you a patriot? Do you like the Constitution?” I’m like, “Yeah.” He said, “We are on our own program. We don’t obey. We just do what we want.” And he said, “You have got to sign these papers. You never saw this. I don’t exist. And if you tell anybody, you will just come up missing.” pp. 275 - 277. For more, click here.
Air Force Intelligence Officer, Major George A. Filer III
I was met by the head of the command post. He was very specific about the fact that an alien from outer space had been shot at Fort Dix, and that he had run away after being wounded, and headed for McGuire….One interesting thing is that many of the key personnel on the base at that time who had a connection with the event were quickly transferred—from the wing commander on down—indicating that if you knew something, they tended to split you up, so you couldn’t talk about it….At times I used to carry nuclear weapons. In other words, I was mentally fit to carry nuclear weapons, but I’m not mentally fit if I see a UFO. This criticism and this ridicule have done more to keep the story [from] coming out than almost anything else. pp. 284 - 288. For more, click here. See also Major Filer’s website at http://www.nationalu
focenter.com.
British Ministry of Defense, Nick Pope
I was posted to a division called Secretariat Air Staff. My duties there were to research and investigate the UFO phenomenon for the UK government. There have been a steady stream of good-quality cases which I think would convince any open-minded observer who actually looked at the data, that there was something here which went significantly farther than just lights in the sky. I’ve made no secret of the fact that I believe some of these UFOs may well be of extraterrestrial origin. pp. 289 - 296. For more, click here. See also Mr. Pope’s website at www.nickpope.net.
United Kingdom Chief of Defense (1971 - 73), Admiral Lord Peter Hill-Norton
I have frequently been asked why a person of my background—a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee—why I think there is a cover-up of the facts about UFOs. Governments fear that if they did disclose those facts, people would panic. I don’t believe that at all. There is a serious possibility that we are being visited—and have been visited for many years—by people from outer space, from other civilizations. It behooves us to find out who they are, where they come from, and what they want. This should be the subject of rigorous scientific investigation, and not the subject of rubbishing by tabloid newspapers. pp. 305-307. See also Lord Hill-Norton, Forward to Timothy Good’s Above Top Secret. For more, click here.
US Air Force Security Officer, Larry Warren
They said, “We are going to show you a film that might help you put into perspective what you gentlemen have witnessed.” They ran the film….The best clip on it showed the berets of the Fifth Special Forces in Vietnam with low scrub brush and a guy with a camera. He turns the camera and this giant, green, delta-shaped thing rises out of the brush very slowly and deliberately, below where they are, up to face level, camera level. Shrubbery and brush is falling off this massive thing. I’ll never forget that in my life!…The only reason I have my records is because I was advised to steal some of them by an Air Force Colonel, because he said they would vaporize you. pp. 316 – 320. For more, click here.
US Army, Sergeant Clifford Stone
Can any government keep secrets, let alone the US Government? The answer is unequivocally yes. The National Reconnaissance Office remained secret for many, many years. The mere existence of the NSA remained secret. The development of the atomic weapon remained secret until once you exploded one. I had classified documents the Air Force acknowledged. When I got members of Congress to help me open up more files, they were immediately destroyed, and I can prove this. I am prepared to state that I have been at locations where there were craft that did not originate on the face of this planet. While I was there, we saw living and dead bodies of entities that were not born on this planet….They are not hostile toward us. We are the enemy in this instance. It is not a scary story. The ETs have a perception of God. They are living, breathing creatures as mortal as you and me. They have families. They think, they have loves, they haves likes, they have dislikes, they have social culture. If we do not grow spiritually, we are forcing the situation where the entities will eventually make themselves known….Not more than two dozen UFOs had been retrieved by 1969 when I was briefed first….The entity was a little bigger than the 3, 3 ½ foot tall entities that are a lot of times reported. I looked right into the eyes of this little creature. And you know, it’s like you are seeing it but everything is being pulled from your mind. He was reading my whole life. It is hard to describe what I really felt there—your life up to that point goes by in seconds. And I mean you were feeling everything. pp. 327 – 337. For more, click here. For a video interview, click here.
US Air Force, Sergeant Karl Wolfe
We walked over to one side of the lab and he said, “By the way, we’ve discovered a base on the backside of the moon.” I was a little terrified, thinking to myself that if anybody walks in the room right now, I know we’re in jeopardy because he shouldn’t be giving me this information. Then he pulled out one of these mosaics and showed this base on the moon which had geometric shapes—there were towers, there were spherical buildings, and things that looked somewhat like radar dishes, but they were very large structures. I didn’t want to look at it any longer than that, because I felt that my life was in jeopardy. pp. 415 - 418. For more, click here. For a video interview, click here.
Defense Intelligence Agency, Military Intelligence Analyst, John Maynard
I said, “Now this is supposed to be a system that tracks radar anomalies on Earth, right?” He says, “Yep, that’s what it does.” So I ask, “Then why are half of them pointed toward outer space, towards the moon, towards areas that are just blank space? What are they looking for?” He says, “You’ve got to have a need to know to know about that”.…We go back to a comment made by one of the astronauts when he stepped on the moon. It was the day after they got there. It was the original flight, and he says, “You’re right, they’re already here.” It got out on the airwaves. I know several people who recorded it. It was quickly taken out of all tapes that were public broadcast. pp. 424 – 427. For more, click here.
NASA, Department of Energy, Harland Bentley
I was in a facility in California doing classified work. Our astronauts were doing a loop around the moon. I heard them say they had a bogey coming in at 11:00. It was another type of ship. There were portals there that they could see in. They could see beings of some sort. They just took photographs. After a few thousand miles, they took off from the capsule and went away. This happened before the lunar landing. This event was unedited because of where I was. p. 431. For more, click here.
McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer, Dr. Robert Wood
I had access to special libraries, so we could go up to the library that the Air Force ran and sort of paw through top-secret material. Since I was interested in UFOs, I’d look to see what they had. For about a year, I was getting quite a few hits. Then, all of a sudden, the whole subject material vanished. The entire classification for the subject just vanished. pp. 434 - 435. See also Dr. Wood’s website at www.majesticdocument
s.com.
Stanford Research Institute, Senior Policy Analyst, Dr. Alfred Webre
I worked on the 1977 Carter White House Extraterrestrial Communication Project. It called for creation of central and regional databases under independent control on UFOs an