Wotte's Egypt U-turn (From This is Hampshire)

I'm confused. Does this all mean that he is the gaffer until a new buyer comes round and sacks him or does it mean that he has to stay on even if the buyer wants someone else???

maybe he already has had talks with th new buyer.
he can't say anything yet.
the guy deserves a chance, with cash in his pocket to buy and a stress free start, then we can judge him fairly.
in fairness he was in an impossible situation last season he couldn't even sign loan players

Think Mark Wotte is a
man of honour and has
a bit about him, he
has behaved with great dignity through
this difficult time
for our club.
Feel that he should be rewarded with a
position at our club,
maybe coaching our
young players etc,
just don't feel he's
the right man to be
first team manager/
coach whatever they
call them these days.
Don't think he should
just be booted out,
but feel we need an
inspirational man with experience and
understanding of
League 1.

I would imagine Wotte has been given the nod by the Swiss Consortium Liebherr.

Fair play to Wotte. Most would have been on that plane. A lucrative contact in Egypt, flights booked, and he still stays, me can't be on that much dosh at Saints, He must know something we don't

Ross96 - It means that he has a contract to manage the team for the season. If the new management decide to hire a new gaffer to replace him, then they would have to pay him for the remaining term of his contract I believe. It is financial assurance for him to have the contract for the year. All the consortiums however acted very unprofessional by discussing new managers in public before even owning the team.

milton road wrote:
maybe he already has had talks with th new buyer. he can't say anything yet. the guy deserves a chance, with cash in his pocket to buy and a stress free start, then we can judge him fairly. in fairness he was in an impossible situation last season he couldn't even sign loan players

I totally agree with you on this milton road, in todays football there is not much integrity, but Mark Wotte has poved beyond doubt he is committed and with decent players to pick from, he could be just the man for the job, I have said on here before he does say the right things, give him a chance I say

If my memory serves me correctly didn't he say a while back that he'd already 'spoken to the Swiss group'? This was before Pinnacle gained exclusivity. Maybe they told him he'd be manager under their stewardship and he's hoping they'll now complete? Who knows!

milton road wrote:
maybe he already has had talks with th new buyer. he can't say anything yet. the guy deserves a chance, with cash in his pocket to buy and a stress free start, then we can judge him fairly. in fairness he was in an impossible situation last season he couldn't even sign loan players

I basically summed up what you had already said!! sw: must-read!!!

I endorse the theme of the above posts.
Mark Wotte is a decent man with integrity, which might be rare in football.
In reality he is in a "no lose" situation, as he has the secuity of a 12 month rolling contract, and is obviously highly regarded in Egypt.
I finally believe that he has passion and fire in his belly for Saints.
Let's give a fair crack of the whip and enjoy the renaissance of Saints FC.
Oh what irony, security words -"deal-year" !!!

MW is clearly a man of integrity and honour.
The way he has acted over the past few months proves this.
Look at some of the other people that have been in the club lately... Rednapp... possibly the most negative man ever to walk through the gates... All he did for the time he was in charge was go on about how difficult a position we were in and how hard it's going to be... hardly what you wanted when you're in a relegation fight.
Hoddle... ran away at the first sniff of a better job.
Even Strachen, (and don't get me wrong... i love the guy) but ran off as soon as things started to look more difficult and had a few dissagreements with the board. And i'm not even gonna start on the rest of the bunch of failed experiments we've had in and out of the revolving doors of SMS over the past few years.
You don't get much more difficult than what we've had over the past few months, and he's still here.
He clearly loves the club as much as some of us and i think that if you've got the passion you're already half way there.
Ok... he may not be the best manager in the world, but that can come with time, experience and getting to work day in day out with the team... and to be honest, how much of last year was his fault and how much was the half the team not giving a cr@p
If he loves this club he will work twice as hard to make it successful. If we start to succeed and climb the table you know he's not going to walk away when a championship or Prem team come sniffing.
If things get difficult he's going to do everything he can to sort it out.
He's the only person at the club that has consistently given us news about what's going on... (even if that is just "we've done fitness tests"), he's the only person that has remained possitive about a take over (despite rumours about loosing his job), and the only person that has publicly said they would like to stay at saints (and thats despite being offered another job probably on better pay and with better conditions).
I think as fans we owe him something... and i think we should get behind him and give him a chance. L1 is a great place for him to perfect his role.
A few months ago everyone on here was whinging about 10 managers in 10 years or what ever it is now... i loose count due to lack of fingers... We finally get the chance to have a bit of stability and everyone wants another change????
If he fails by January then start asking questions... But until then I'm behind him 100%, and honestly can't think of any other person I would rather have in control at our club.

Just read that link in the mail and initial thoughts are here we go again...quietly optimistic.Amazing if it comes off and as i work in the container terminal i would personally polish their new cranes myself if it did.Waiting in anticipation. S.W. they-miss oops

Mark Fry and the old board took steps to shore up the club earlier in the week to get the wages paid and buy time for Mark Fry to get a deal done. He already praised the board for their part in things.

AS Mark Wotte has already said he can't yet offer contracts I'd say The old board gave him his contract with the consent of the lead bidders with operational clauses.

Having the chance at being the 5th richest club in England is fantastic. Keith Harris completes deals he works on. The Leibherr Family have a great reputation. If they buy Saints we'll have a long secure future with every chance of significant investment in new talent to take us to the prem fast track.

These are exciting times.

Please show your support for mark Wotte and get out to Saints v Totton 7.45pm Tues.

He's a real Saint and deserves the fans behind him.

Mark may soon be dealing with some big stars? Now that prospect is brilliant.

Up The Saints... come on fans
Get in Behind!
(said with my best Kiwi Accent)

wotte will be manager next season...the guy deserves a chance and i think he will get us promoted

If it is the Swiss Consortium and it is the people in the article, then bring it on. They obviously do business the correct way... not in the media. I have a feeling this is going to happen on Monday!

Really Bad news about the Skate Players not getting thier bonuses, really, really, reallky sad to hear that.

I have to agree that MW is the man for us.He has shown a profesionalism and commitment to us over the last few months that puts many others at St Marys to shame.Give the man a chance because i think you will all be surprised. COYR!!!!

MW hd to put up with playing second fiddle to JP when he knew the tactics were wrong. He never stood a chance of keeping us up after the position JP left us in. Add the fact that he wasnt allowed to play certan players because they would require appearence fees I think he did a decent job. Id be quite happy to see him as manager for next season

The word is Totton had already sold 600 tickets by Friday. Already got mine

I think MW has a good understanding of what is needed. Stern John and Graeme Murty would be excellent signings at this level, we should have had this last season.

I'm delighted to read so many positive notes about Wotte. The man has got pedigree both with coaching and management, please check.

He also, and I keep repeating this in post after post, has got the best points per game ratio of our last three managers. That includes Pearson! And he was in a worse position than any of the others, finally having the whole club scuppered by administration and a team full of boys. The man requires massive amounts of credits both for what he did then and for what he has done over the summer.

A bad manager doesn't get any better because you keep him on for years, but here is one with a proven record, both here and in Holland. He deserves our full support, not only until January, but for the next couple of years at least.

While I was not convinced by Wotte last season and prefer someone with knowledge of the lower leagues for new players he has earnt the right to be our manager next season for the loyalty he has shown which has almost certainly stopped a mass exodus of players at cut down prices. He will have my full support and we need to now give hime the chance to prove he can get us back up.

On the Swiss connection does look good news but if the backers are who is reported what the hell was Fry doing giving a group like Pinnacle exclusivity especially as the Swiss came in at the the same time. How many weeks extra delay has been brought on because Fry ignored what was clearly a viable bid? Have to say the Swiss bid seems to be professional, no leaks to press, visits to players, comments on new manager etc so hope Fry doesnt waste anymore time and gets sorted tomorrow. As a Saints fan for 40 years I live in hope never knowing why!!

Feeling a bit more positive this morning, but also sceptical as fook.. all sounds good MW should be given a chance and we have sold well so far, if we keep lalla lala it would be good as he could be the new Le Tissier...
So come on Swiss group save our **** and lead us back to where we belong..coyr

wolves are puttin £500,000 bid in for llalana cant spell his name

Well said! He deserves our full support for the loyalty he has shown our club

rickyroyl wrote:
wolves are puttin £500,000 bid in for llalana cant spell his name

Glad to hear old
mick mcarthy is not taking advantage of our situation then.lol

Anybody know whats happening with Kelvin?

SwindonSaint wrote:
Anybody know whats happening with Kelvin?

Sky sports say he is due to sign 3 year deal at west ham monday

http://www.newsnow.c
o.uk/A/356240252?-11
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wraggster wrote:

SwindonSaint wrote: Anybody know whats happening with Kelvin?

Sky sports say he is due to sign 3 year deal at west ham monday

Thats not good. Hopefully this deal will be done and he'll stay

SwindonSaint wrote:

wraggster wrote:

SwindonSaint wrote: Anybody know whats happening with Kelvin?

Sky sports say he is due to sign 3 year deal at west ham monday

Thats not good. Hopefully this deal will be done and he'll stay

reckon he is waiting to last minute to sign. could have friday?

I believe we're at last seeing a bright light at the end of this horrific long tunnel.
Let's hope Monday brings us back to life!

Long Live Southampton Football Club

Agree wholeheartedly with "saint 2824" .Couldnt have put it any better.Probably a pointless post by me but just wanted to endorse and applaud common sense.

Well done Mark, I for one would like to see the club get behind a manager and show support so he stays for a long while. The club has a history of turning over managers, which is part of the reason we are where we are.

As much as I admire Matt Le Tiss skill and long term commitment when playing he is probably not best placed in the negotiation world when it comes to football. Both the failed (I don't think they had the money)take over bid and then the disrespectful claims that a new manager would be appointed were very clear signs of his naivete. Ex players do not in general make for committee men, I can only think of one and that is Sir Bobby Charlton and Matt never got near his status. So stick to your SKY Matt and let the club get on with being valid again

I'm pleased to see that the general consensus on here is that Wotte should be given a shot if and when a take-over happens.
I was a big fan of the guy, last season, when there were plenty on here willing to shoot him down. He did a good job, considering the circumstances and don't forget that in the first half of last season, his reserve's side were un-beaten. Not much of a battle, most would think, but it shows that at the very least, his teams were well prepared and tactically sound. Especially considering the fact that most reserve sides were made up of non-first teamers and under-18's.

Saint2824 wrote:
MW is clearly a man of integrity and honour. The way he has acted over the past few months proves this. Look at some of the other people that have been in the club lately... Rednapp... possibly the most negative man ever to walk through the gates... All he did for the time he was in charge was go on about how difficult a position we were in and how hard it's going to be... hardly what you wanted when you're in a relegation fight. Hoddle... ran away at the first sniff of a better job. Even Strachen, (and don't get me wrong... i love the guy) but ran off as soon as things started to look more difficult and had a few dissagreements with the board. And i'm not even gonna start on the rest of the bunch of failed experiments we've had in and out of the revolving doors of SMS over the past few years. You don't get much more difficult than what we've had over the past few months, and he's still here. He clearly loves the club as much as some of us and i think that if you've got the passion you're already half way there. Ok... he may not be the best manager in the world, but that can come with time, experience and getting to work day in day out with the team... and to be honest, how much of last year was his fault and how much was the half the team not giving a cr@p If he loves this club he will work twice as hard to make it successful. If we start to succeed and climb the table you know he's not going to walk away when a championship or Prem team come sniffing. If things get difficult he's going to do everything he can to sort it out. He's the only person at the club that has consistently given us news about what's going on... (even if that is just "we've done fitness tests"), he's the only person that has remained possitive about a take over (despite rumours about loosing his job), and the only person that has publicly said they would like to stay at saints (and thats despite being offered another job probably on better pay and with better conditions). I think as fans we owe him something... and i think we should get behind him and give him a chance. L1 is a great place for him to perfect his role. A few months ago everyone on here was whinging about 10 managers in 10 years or what ever it is now... i loose count due to lack of fingers... We finally get the chance to have a bit of stability and everyone wants another change???? If he fails by January then start asking questions... But until then I'm behind him 100%, and honestly can't think of any other person I would rather have in control at our club.

this is the best post i.ve read in the last few days could not agree more , hear hear,he's got red and white in his blood and he's only been here 5mins

He deserves a break after all the stress !

When you look at his background
he would do us proud in the division we are now in
I have met him he is a good guy and has strong ideas - he has hung in there during the most difficult time - most would have gone - do it Mark!!

A billionaire Swiss family and a group led by football deal maker Keith Harris are battling to rescue League One Southampton from oblivion and make them one of the richest clubs in English football.

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-1197540/Sw
iss-billionaires-rol
l-save-League-One-So
uthampton.html

Press conference at St Marys tomorrow morning!

do u know there is a press conference or is rhat what u reckon... pls let it be true about this swiss lot, about time we had some good news

wraggster wrote:

SwindonSaint wrote: Anybody know whats happening with Kelvin?

Sky sports say he is due to sign 3 year deal at west ham monday

If takeover goes through on monday-Kelvin may stay 2 year deal but dependent on takeover on monday.Maybe just talk -but he was at eastleigh on saturday

Saint2824 wrote:
MW is clearly a man of integrity and honour. The way he has acted over the past few months proves this. Look at some of the other people that have been in the club lately... Rednapp... possibly the most negative man ever to walk through the gates... All he did for the time he was in charge was go on about how difficult a position we were in and how hard it's going to be... hardly what you wanted when you're in a relegation fight. Hoddle... ran away at the first sniff of a better job. Even Strachen, (and don't get me wrong... i love the guy) but ran off as soon as things started to look more difficult and had a few dissagreements with the board. And i'm not even gonna start on the rest of the bunch of failed experiments we've had in and out of the revolving doors of SMS over the past few years. You don't get much more difficult than what we've had over the past few months, and he's still here. He clearly loves the club as much as some of us and i think that if you've got the passion you're already half way there. Ok... he may not be the best manager in the world, but that can come with time, experience and getting to work day in day out with the team... and to be honest, how much of last year was his fault and how much was the half the team not giving a cr@p If he loves this club he will work twice as hard to make it successful. If we start to succeed and climb the table you know he's not going to walk away when a championship or Prem team come sniffing. If things get difficult he's going to do everything he can to sort it out. He's the only person at the club that has consistently given us news about what's going on... (even if that is just "we've done fitness tests"), he's the only person that has remained possitive about a take over (despite rumours about loosing his job), and the only person that has publicly said they would like to stay at saints (and thats despite being offered another job probably on better pay and with better conditions). I think as fans we owe him something... and i think we should get behind him and give him a chance. L1 is a great place for him to perfect his role. A few months ago everyone on here was whinging about 10 managers in 10 years or what ever it is now... i loose count due to lack of fingers... We finally get the chance to have a bit of stability and everyone wants another change???? If he fails by January then start asking questions... But until then I'm behind him 100%, and honestly can't think of any other person I would rather have in control at our club.

Good shout.

d u know what time???

fuzabuznuz wrote:
A billionaire Swiss family and a group led by football deal maker Keith Harris are battling to rescue League One Southampton from oblivion and make them one of the richest clubs in English football. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-1197540/Sw iss-billionaires-rol l-save-League-One-So uthampton.html Press conference at St Marys tomorrow morning!

Whilst the holding company is Swiss, I believe the owning Liebherr family are German.
An interesting mix!

as i said to Tirau Dan this morning, i was at the main gate at eastleigh yesterday getting in through the "tradesmans" due to my having a push chair, and a dutch guy was just asking about wottes guest list. he said he was on wottes coaching staff next season. could be a blagger but he was def dutch and def on the list and he got in. so maybe wotte has already been given the nod by those swissies. i see fed won so maybe they'll be chirpy.

sw. text-nose

not relevant but i have a larger than average conk so its personal to me. face like a capital D. pete townsend in the back of a spoon etc.

fuzabuznuz wrote:
A billionaire Swiss family and a group led by football deal maker Keith Harris are battling to rescue League One Southampton from oblivion and make them one of the richest clubs in English football. http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-1197540/Sw iss-billionaires-rol l-save-League-One-So uthampton.html Press conference at St Marys tomorrow morning!

do u know what time???

Wotte is a clueless manager.

The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender.

On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP).
A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision.

What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width.

The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week.

A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly.

The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season.

Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front

IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Saint_John wrote:
Wotte is a clueless manager. The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender. On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP). A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision. What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width. The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week. A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly. The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season. Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

ok, pressure of the fans, board, press ect, tight budgets....off you go mate, fill your boots and i bet you'd crash so very badly. Give the guy a break, give him a chance and stop you whinging. COYR and here's to good news and all things swiss!!

We have had so many fractious events over the last 5/6 years it would be really soul soothing to know that Saints are safe, MW deserves our full support, he's not Ferguson, but who is??!! I am 100pc behind him.

The really inspiring news today is what I read in the Mail on Sunday this morning, to know that the Liebherr family are behind the bid is fantastic news, they have already supported our City & docks in other ventures, so they obviously hold us close to their hearts, thank you God!!!

If the family complete the takeover tomorrow I for one will probably cry, and I dont mind admitting it, the relief will be too much, Lowe will be a long forgotten nightmare, the road back will take a while, but its coming!

Just a quick last paragraph, John Wade et al have been strangely quiet recently, especially since they now know their alleged sugar daddy was nothing but a face for Shinawatra, dont you just love what comes around, they are more and more in the cack, and sinking fast, maybe you should have held your collective fire before coming on here lording it up, muppets.

COYS

Saint_John wrote:
Wotte is a clueless manager.

The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender.

On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP).
A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision.

What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width.

The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week.

A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly.

The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season.

Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front

IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Not as clueless as you, thankfully.

Tye-Dye wrote:
We have had so many fractious events over the last 5/6 years it would be really soul soothing to know that Saints are safe, MW deserves our full support, he's not Ferguson, but who is??!! I am 100pc behind him. The really inspiring news today is what I read in the Mail on Sunday this morning, to know that the Liebherr family are behind the bid is fantastic news, they have already supported our City & docks in other ventures, so they obviously hold us close to their hearts, thank you God!!! If the family complete the takeover tomorrow I for one will probably cry, and I dont mind admitting it, the relief will be too much, Lowe will be a long forgotten nightmare, the road back will take a while, but its coming! Just a quick last paragraph, John Wade et al have been strangely quiet recently, especially since they now know their alleged sugar daddy was nothing but a face for Shinawatra, dont you just love what comes around, they are more and more in the cack, and sinking fast, maybe you should have held your collective fire before coming on here lording it up, muppets. COYS

ferguson wasn't "ferguson" when he first joined man utd either remember. i do get your point though and would also like to see wotte get the nod.

These have been the most sensible and most optomistic postings I have read in a long time. The Saints we grew up with and love would not have dumped on Wotte. We know who would have done nut he has gone. It is all starting to feel as though a new era is dawning. An era in our history reflecting our commonly held values of decency and respect and honourable behaviour. Our friends down the raod could learn a thing or two about that. If I was a Skate I would be more worried than any Saints fan has been for the last few months. They are shipping players fast and bringing in dross and still not making money. Does that sound familiar? But in the end all they had was the palyers for they have no other assets.

Once more I am starting to feel really proud about being a Saint. All we need now is to ignore the Skate WUMs and the negativity amongst a handful of our own fans.

We are on the up.

Give wotte a chance i say, he obviously loves the club and is a passionate man! Anyway getting a new manager in this close to the start of the season is gonna do more damage than good i reckon.

Fides wrote:

Saint_John wrote: Wotte is a clueless manager. The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender. On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP). A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision. What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width. The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week. A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly. The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season. Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Not as clueless as you, thankfully.

I cant believe this bloke saint_john knows exactly to the minute when these changes were made i also went to this game and cant remember how i got home that day come on saint-john get behind wotte a 100%

CliffordNelson wrote:
I'm delighted to read so many positive notes about Wotte. The man has got pedigree both with coaching and management, please check.

He also, and I keep repeating this in post after post, has got the best points per game ratio of our last three managers. That includes Pearson! And he was in a worse position than any of the others, finally having the whole club scuppered by administration and a team full of boys. The man requires massive amounts of credits both for what he did then and for what he has done over the summer.

A bad manager doesn't get any better because you keep him on for years, but here is one with a proven record, both here and in Holland. He deserves our full support, not only until January, but for the next couple of years at least.

Morning coffee with the thread this morning in NZ. Great to read how much more positive most are becoming.

I fully support Mark Wotte and have the confidence that he'll chop non-performers and use any decent budget given to him wisely.

It's great getting up to a Monday morning 13 hours ahead of you folk.. I'll get off to work looking forward to an evening of checking in for news of the big announcement.

I remember as a kid from Graham Rd having to avoid certain yobbo fans up London Road on the way to The Dell. Now Saints are closer to home haha hopefully in this day and age All Fans can get behind the new regime give praise when due and have enjoyable sensible debate about football matters without acting like the yobbos of the past in verbally slashing out.

Mark Wotte is a True Saint for staying put. He has a great vision for motivation and exudes work ethic. That is infectious.

The coffee tastes better today.
You guys and gals sleep well tonight. While you're at work tomorrow I'll be glued to the pc with another coffee and maybe a brandy & lovage for a little celebration a bit later.

Up The Saints

"Get in Behind!"

Oh now ill take you back, do you remember the days of Chicken George, the opposition and his team mates didn’t know what he was going to do with the ball and to be honest neither did George, but what a wonderful era Europe and a Top Six finish, Semis in the FA Cup. Are they about to return, I sincerely hope so. COYR. BE PROUD TO BE A SAINT !!!!!!!

Will we have new owners tomorrow or not?. I can't wait another day........

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne wrote:
These have been the most sensible and most optomistic postings I have read in a long time. The Saints we grew up with and love would not have dumped on Wotte. We know who would have done nut he has gone. It is all starting to feel as though a new era is dawning. An era in our history reflecting our commonly held values of decency and respect and honourable behaviour. Our friends down the raod could learn a thing or two about that. If I was a Skate I would be more worried than any Saints fan has been for the last few months. They are shipping players fast and bringing in dross and still not making money. Does that sound familiar? But in the end all they had was the palyers for they have no other assets.

Once more I am starting to feel really proud about being a Saint. All we need now is to ignore the Skate WUMs and the negativity amongst a handful of our own fans.

We are on the up.

**** right!

"An era in our history reflecting our commonly held values of decency and respect and honourable behaviour."

This is what we've lost over the past few years and was epitomised by staff, managers and profesionals like Dodd and Le Tissier back through all the generations of our club - We need to have this attitude from the top down all the way through the club.

Wotte has shown his resolve and determination to do the job in an honourable and professional manner - he deserves at least another season, I'm pleased he's getting it!

COYR

I second it COYR. COYR Swiss. Had a look at your hotels they are lovely and chilled !

wraggster wrote:

Fides wrote:

Saint_John wrote: Wotte is a clueless manager. The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender. On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP). A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision. What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width. The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week. A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly. The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season. Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Not as clueless as you, thankfully.

I cant believe this bloke saint_john knows exactly to the minute when these changes were made i also went to this game and cant remember how i got home that day come on saint-john get behind wotte a 100%

Maybe saint_john was right behind You at the time ?

Just having my after work pint and what a pleasure it is to read positive posts(as already stated) instead of playground rubbish and negativity. Whilst I have never been the greatest Wotte fan I have to say that the manner in which he has conducted himself over the last couple of months has been truly saintly. He has displayed the honesty, loyalty and dignity that I hope returns to our family club. He deserves our support and I am 100% behind him. If the Liebherr deal goes through and that brings some good times back I hope Wotte is a part of that.

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Ross96 wrote:
I'm confused. Does this all mean that he is the gaffer until a new buyer comes round and sacks him or does it mean that he has to stay on even if the buyer wants someone else???

yeah thats what i want to know, im confused. It sounded like pinnacle had told him he wouldn't be first team coach or manager. But that doesnt mean that the other groups won't sack him aswell if they get in...?
But still, he doesn't sound very commited, going to Egypt looking for a new job, the moment anything is mentioned about his future at southampton fc.

SaintsFC-George wrote:

Ross96 wrote:
I'm confused. Does this all mean that he is the gaffer until a new buyer comes round and sacks him or does it mean that he has to stay on even if the buyer wants someone else???

yeah thats what i want to know, im confused. It sounded like pinnacle had told him he wouldn't be first team coach or manager. But that doesnt mean that the other groups won't sack him aswell if they get in...?
But still, he doesn't sound very commited, going to Egypt looking for a new job, the moment anything is mentioned about his future at southampton fc.

Mark Wotte is very committed. Pinnacle jumped the gun and led everyone on a merry dance of misinformation which caused a lot of trouble and dissent.

Mark Wotte now has a rolling 12 month contract which was agreed by the board and the administrator, I guess with clauses and agreement from the bidding parties.

Everything is looking great for a very lucrative, stable future at Southampton Football Club.

We have a short wait to go after a long bumpy trip.

After the era of decline it's finally time to band together, put the past in the past and get on with being the best supporters of the club we can possibly be.

If The Liebherr family are behind the Keith Harris deal then it would be a dream come true for fans and we must get in behind and support the new regime.

Feet on the ground, patient and quietly excited here in NZ. It'll be great news to hear that you are all off to support the team at Totton Tuesday Night....

"Get In Behind"

Up The Saints

ps "Get in Behind" is what kiwi shepherds yell at the sheep dog to go around behind the mob and bring them towards him...

so now "Get In Behind" be the call for all of us to get everyone "in behind" the team....The Swiss'll love it.

Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:

SaintsFC-George wrote:

Ross96 wrote: I'm confused. Does this all mean that he is the gaffer until a new buyer comes round and sacks him or does it mean that he has to stay on even if the buyer wants someone else???

yeah thats what i want to know, im confused. It sounded like pinnacle had told him he wouldn't be first team coach or manager. But that doesnt mean that the other groups won't sack him aswell if they get in...? But still, he doesn't sound very commited, going to Egypt looking for a new job, the moment anything is mentioned about his future at southampton fc.

Mark Wotte is very committed. Pinnacle jumped the gun and led everyone on a merry dance of misinformation which caused a lot of trouble and dissent. Mark Wotte now has a rolling 12 month contract which was agreed by the board and the administrator, I guess with clauses and agreement from the bidding parties. Everything is looking great for a very lucrative, stable future at Southampton Football Club. We have a short wait to go after a long bumpy trip. After the era of decline it's finally time to band together, put the past in the past and get on with being the best supporters of the club we can possibly be. If The Liebherr family are behind the Keith Harris deal then it would be a dream come true for fans and we must get in behind and support the new regime. Feet on the ground, patient and quietly excited here in NZ. It'll be great news to hear that you are all off to support the team at Totton Tuesday Night.... "Get In Behind" Up The Saints ps "Get in Behind" is what kiwi shepherds yell at the sheep dog to go around behind the mob and bring them towards him... so now "Get In Behind" be the call for all of us to get everyone "in behind" the team....The Swiss'll love it.

Not being homophobic Dan but 'Get in Behind' could be interpreted in a very different way and you can be sure the skates will jump on the opportunity.

That came out wrong! I meant the skates would jump on the opportunity to take the michael not jump on the opportunity to get in behind!

Lol.. too late we'll really keep our backs to the wall if I see trekkie suits at SMS haha ;p "Get in Behind" is always called in a deep gruff farmers voice haha
We're rough tough modern football fans happy in our sexuality with new alpine goat and sheep handling skills

Meanwhile back in the 4th estate: The Mirrors been doing some rehashs from last week.. but does have a few words from Mark Wotte who says:

"I am manager now and it gives me a little more control. I hope to meet the new owners soon and discuss budgets and start to bring in some players.

"The club is moving forward again but there is still so much to sort out."

Fry has had to sell Nathan Dyer, Andrew Surman and David McGoldrick to pay wages and other bills. Wotte thinks he can persuade keeper and West Ham target Kelvin Davis and strikers Jason Euell and Bradley Wright-Phillips to stay"

That's is a man waiting to meet the new owners!! not waiting to see "if" we have new owners.

Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:
Lol.. too late we'll really keep our backs to the wall if I see trekkie suits at SMS haha ;p "Get in Behind" is always called in a deep gruff farmers voice haha We're rough tough modern football fans happy in our sexuality with new alpine goat and sheep handling skills Meanwhile back in the 4th estate: The Mirrors been doing some rehashs from last week.. but does have a few words from Mark Wotte who says: "I am manager now and it gives me a little more control. I hope to meet the new owners soon and discuss budgets and start to bring in some players. "The club is moving forward again but there is still so much to sort out." Fry has had to sell Nathan Dyer, Andrew Surman and David McGoldrick to pay wages and other bills. Wotte thinks he can persuade keeper and West Ham target Kelvin Davis and strikers Jason Euell and Bradley Wright-Phillips to stay" That's is a man waiting to meet the new owners!! not waiting to see "if" we have new owners.

beem trawling the gossip page on bbc football. not much to report. i guess we just waiting for our fry up now.

How reliable is Sunday Rumours in The Northampton Chronicle????

They are are saying Southampton's prospective owners are prepared to bring in Alan Shearer.

That sounds more like one of the wannabe's not The Swiss Group as they to their great credit leaked nothing through the whole process.

Perhaps another Jackson red herring?

I'm immune to this stuff and am really enjoying checking the pc and watching telly while most of you are at work :-)

Shearer?

Is it today.......

wraggster wrote:

Fides wrote:

Saint_John wrote: Wotte is a clueless manager. The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender. On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP). A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision. What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width. The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week. A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly. The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season. Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Not as clueless as you, thankfully.

I cant believe this bloke saint_john knows exactly to the minute when these changes were made i also went to this game and cant remember how i got home that day come on saint-john get behind wotte a 100%

It is very easy to look up the times afterwards.

And for all the others who want a lap dog as Manager go and get yourself a pet or something they are very loyal.

I have seen over 750 Saints games including Goodison Park in 74 and I can see a clueless Sunday morning Parks League manager in Wotte.

Saint_John wrote:

wraggster wrote:

Fides wrote:

Saint_John wrote: Wotte is a clueless manager. The "must win" Charlton game comes to mind where the 2 central midfield players were playing as an extra forward and an extra defender. On 64 & 73 mins he changed the 2 wide midfields (Adam & Drew) and brought on players who played closer to the touchline (Smith & BWP). A TOTALLY CLUELESS decision. What he should have been doing was getting the 4 in midfield to play closer together, with the fullbacks giving the width. The next home game (Palace) he got the midfield players to play closer together but IMO it was a WEEK TOO LATE. It was as if somebody who knows about Football had a chat with him during the week. A good manager should be able to see what is going right and wrong for his team on the pitch in that 90 mins and adjust the tactics accordingly. The two Davids (A & M) on the Radio Stations are a hundred times better at reading games than the clueless Wotte. The numbers of times they were going on about the total lack of preparation for the team e.g. who was picking who up at corners and freekicks etc. It was non-existent in the second half of the season. Remember he was here for the whole season working with the players and his tactics in the second half of the season was to just hoof the ball up front IMO if he is here at the start the season I give him 6 games before the fans start calling for his head and the sacking will follow by Sept or Oct.

Not as clueless as you, thankfully.

I cant believe this bloke saint_john knows exactly to the minute when these changes were made i also went to this game and cant remember how i got home that day come on saint-john get behind wotte a 100%

It is very easy to look up the times afterwards.

And for all the others who want a lap dog as Manager go and get yourself a pet or something they are very loyal.

I have seen over 750 Saints games including Goodison Park in 74 and I can see a clueless Sunday morning Parks League manager in Wotte.

You need a new armchair and the floor around you needs a vacuum.

You are an arrogant bitter man who should turn over a new leaf and give the man a chance.

Get out to Totton and support the team and Mark Wotte.

Up The Saints

sw away-leaf haha

Didn't I 'break' this story last week? lol

Catch up Echo ;o)

sw: PAST-NEWS (NOT EVEN KIDDING!)

I agree with most here I think he really has shown a classy attitude. and hope he gets a fair crack now because he has not done an awfull lot wrong.Also I am starting to feel more than a little relieved that pinnacle could not follow through with the big promises they said because I simply dont believe a word they say anymore and will be happy to some person who has their wits about them and is competent.