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6:04pm Saturday 25th October 2008
Jan Poortvliet put his side’s 3-0 defeat at Swansea down to a lack of belief in the final third.
Saints never really threatened to get a goal at the Liberty Stadium and have now failed to register in their last three games.
With Saints in the Championship’s bottom three it is now a crucial game against Coventry at St Mary’s on Tuesday night.
He said: “There was no power.
“I had the feeling sometimes we played OK but the end product was not there.
“They made it 1-0 and until that time there had been nothing wrong.
“After that I think they didn’t do anything special in the box and we looked like we could get a couple of possibilities but we were not there to put them in.
“Second half we had the second goal against us and you see we play but there was no belief in scoring, no belief in a better result.”
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couzzy, southampton says...
6:18pm Sat 25 Oct 08
UTS, says...
6:19pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Saint, says...
6:22pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
6:57pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Saints Mike, Southampton says...
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Saints Mike, Southampton says...
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bazza, southampton says...
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Lowes Nemisis, Southampton says...
7:38pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Cornish Saint, Saltash says...
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Redhat, Southampton says...
8:38pm Sat 25 Oct 08
BARRY BITTERNE, southampton says...
9:01pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Finlay, Des Moines Iowa says...
9:01pm Sat 25 Oct 08
owen_thesaints, The forgotten side of the City says...
9:02pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter) wrote:Post of the day, there's nothing more to say or add except...
I would suggest that the defeat was down to lack of experience and quality on the pitch and off of it.
Reality-man, Southampton says...
9:20pm Sat 25 Oct 08
TottonScrutineer, Totton says...
9:35pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Optimist, Soton says...
10:04pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Chris1991, Marchwood says...
10:07pm Sat 25 Oct 08
TottonScrutineer, Totton says...
10:18pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Chris1991 wrote:Thanks for this comment. I just feel we are going nowhere and fast but this a more positive outlook.Having said that there although it seems realistic it does smack of the Neville Chamberlin approach "everything is going to be fine "in the same year World War Two broke out
So you want to get rid of Jan? No doubt he's struggling but if he goes, he goes with a pay off. If we can afford to keep Stern, we can't afford to get rid of Jan. Besides, who are we going to get? You don't get new managers coming in who don't want to change the set up. They all want to ship out and bring new blood in. THEY ALL WANT TO SPEND MONEY. Well we haven't got any money to spend. So the answer is not to get rid of Jan. Jan must be helped to make things better. We all know its not going to be easy but lets start by taking the pressure off him. No one works effectively under extreme pressure. No one works well when everyone is on your back. No one works well when you're undermined. Lets not hang him out to dry. Too many people are waiting to see him fail so that they can smugly say "I told you so". Well that's not really going to help us get out of the situation we're in. In fact it will probably make it worse. It's too easy to blame Rupert and Co for our woes. But all the negative feelings and atmosphere that has been generated has only resulted in the team ending up in the bottom three. All that negativity has got us no where and unless it changes we will go down. Not only that, if we go down, we will still have Rupert because no one is going to come in and buy him out. Who really wants to invest in a lower league club, especially in the current financial climate? If you really want to get rid of the current bunch in charge, you need to have a sucessful club, or at least a potentially successful club. That's the only way we are likely to get the investment we need. They best way we can help is to stand by the team and give them our support. If we can keep our spirits up it will rub off on the players and they will start winning. If we can become positive, we will have a chance. If we show the way, the team will follow. And everyone will know who was responsible. And everyone will know it wasn't Rupert.
F Fan, Winchester says...
11:10pm Sat 25 Oct 08
US Spitfire, Idaho USA says...
11:37pm Sat 25 Oct 08
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
2:51am Sun 26 Oct 08
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
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St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
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9:58am Sun 26 Oct 08
lumpy73, swansea says...
10:38am Sun 26 Oct 08
tricky19791, Ringwood says...
10:43am Sun 26 Oct 08
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
11:00am Sun 26 Oct 08
ssherbie28, romsey says...
11:02am Sun 26 Oct 08
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
11:59am Sun 26 Oct 08
Jesus_02, Freemantle says...
12:04pm Sun 26 Oct 08
Kdog, St. Marys says...
1:44pm Sun 26 Oct 08
saint_or_sinner, Hedge End says...
1:51pm Sun 26 Oct 08
icehorsestud, Burridge says...
2:03pm Sun 26 Oct 08
lowe and behold, southampton says...
2:24pm Sun 26 Oct 08
Saints No 1 Fan, New Forest says...
3:11pm Sun 26 Oct 08
St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
3:29pm Sun 26 Oct 08
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
4:27pm Sun 26 Oct 08
US Spitfire, Idaho USA says...
4:34pm Sun 26 Oct 08
F Fan, Winchester says...
5:05pm Sun 26 Oct 08
saint_or_sinner wrote:I can’t recall a single person on this site that has claimed Lowe is a “good businessman” or that he is good for the club. And of course it is absolutely fine for the “customers” to keep their money and not pay to support the club. Just stop kidding yourself and us “fanatics” that what you are doing is helping the club – it is killing it every bit as much as Lowe has over the years.
I have been reading the various posts on the site regarding the Saints, Rupert Lowe and trying to make sense of it all. The conclusion I have come to is that in all fields of human activity there will always be a few die hards (fanatics, call them what you will) who will follow the cause no matter what happens. The majority will then behave like customers. They may have varying degrees of loyalty but if they are insulted on a regular enough basis, they will eventually withdraw their support. In my view, the actions of the club board, in particular Rupert Lowe over a long period of time has insulted the customer base. Examples include not backing a manager with funds when things going well (as alluded to in Strachan's autobiography), appointing inexperienced managers, appointing people from outside the core business (i.e. Rugby) on high salaries, loaning out our only experienced striker, behaving in a general arrogant manner towards the fan base -- I could go on forever. I see a growing trend of people becoming disaffected and who can blame them. I am convinced that the club can only move forward from a supporters point of view if Mr Lowe and his allegedly indecisive side kick, Mr Wilde leave the club. The support of the fanatics alone will not be sufficient to fill the ground. I for one will not set foot in St Mary's Stadium until this happens. For those of you that claim that Rupert Lowe is a good businessman, my answer would be that although he may be an accountant, he is NOT a good businessman. A good businessman will take great care to understand the industry he is operating in and he will bring in experts to help him if his knowldege is lacking. A good businessmen does not constantly indulge in ill founded experiments with the core business. Cue hoots of derision from the fanatics.
St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
6:30pm Sun 26 Oct 08
lordshill loyal, southampton says...
7:35pm Sun 26 Oct 08
saint_or_sinner, Hedge End says...
8:38pm Sun 26 Oct 08
F Fan wrote:F Fan - interesting how you start your posts with "I can't recall a single person" - there were a few people praising Mr Lowe's business skills on this site in the early days - believe me. I admire your determination to support the Saints unconditionally but for many people, there is more to life than blindly supporting a Football Club and everyone has their level of tolerance. The factor that determines whether or not Southampton gets the club it deserves is the judgement, skill and supporter empathy shown by the management team. Good businesses have good leaders - it's as simple as that. To suggest that fans who stay away and hence 'starve the club of money' are the root cause of the problem is naieve and illogical particularly in the current financial climate. I'd be happy to be proven wrong and to find that unlike 'stayaways' such as myself, there will be a large number of people willing to plow their hard earned cash into Southampton FC resulting in a large crowd for the Coventry game. If that happens, I will accept that my analysis might be wrong.
saint_or_sinner wrote: I have been reading the various posts on the site regarding the Saints, Rupert Lowe and trying to make sense of it all. The conclusion I have come to is that in all fields of human activity there will always be a few die hards (fanatics, call them what you will) who will follow the cause no matter what happens. The majority will then behave like customers. They may have varying degrees of loyalty but if they are insulted on a regular enough basis, they will eventually withdraw their support. In my view, the actions of the club board, in particular Rupert Lowe over a long period of time has insulted the customer base. Examples include not backing a manager with funds when things going well (as alluded to in Strachan's autobiography), appointing inexperienced managers, appointing people from outside the core business (i.e. Rugby) on high salaries, loaning out our only experienced striker, behaving in a general arrogant manner towards the fan base -- I could go on forever. I see a growing trend of people becoming disaffected and who can blame them. I am convinced that the club can only move forward from a supporters point of view if Mr Lowe and his allegedly indecisive side kick, Mr Wilde leave the club. The support of the fanatics alone will not be sufficient to fill the ground. I for one will not set foot in St Mary's Stadium until this happens. For those of you that claim that Rupert Lowe is a good businessman, my answer would be that although he may be an accountant, he is NOT a good businessman. A good businessman will take great care to understand the industry he is operating in and he will bring in experts to help him if his knowldege is lacking. A good businessmen does not constantly indulge in ill founded experiments with the core business. Cue hoots of derision from the fanatics.I can’t recall a single person on this site that has claimed Lowe is a “good businessman” or that he is good for the club. And of course it is absolutely fine for the “customers” to keep their money and not pay to support the club. Just stop kidding yourself and us “fanatics” that what you are doing is helping the club – it is killing it every bit as much as Lowe has over the years. The argument is not at all about pro or anti Lowe – don’t know any body who supports him. No, the real argument is whether to support the team or stay away and starve it of the money it desperately needs to survive in this division. By and large, Southampton will get the club it deserves at a level it deserves as measured by the size of the crowd. At the moment we may be heading for the third division with third division crowds. Last year the stayaways left it until the last game to turn up and support the team. This year that may be far too late.
Kdog, St. Marys says...
10:45pm Sun 26 Oct 08
bigboybarry, southampton says...
3:10pm Mon 27 Oct 08
St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
7:39pm Mon 27 Oct 08
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Paul TS, Swanwick says...
6:11pm Sat 25 Oct 08