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Saints lose Jack Cork to Watford
10:24am Friday 2nd January 2009
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Saints manager Jan Poortvliet has suffered a huge New Year blow - after Jack Cork joined Watford on loan.
Cork has made a big impression in a struggling Saints side this season and his decision to rejoin new Watford manager Brendan Rodgers, his former reserve team coach at Chelsea, is a big setback to Jan Poortvliet, who was told the news two days ago.
Versatile Cork had been linked with a transfer-window move to Pompey but his loan to Watford is even worse news for Saints as the 19-year-old will now be playing for one of the club's relegation rivals.
Poortvliet said: "I'm sorry for us because Jack is a great player and it's a big loss, but the choice was up to him.
"I would have loved to have him for the rest of the season but was told two days ago that that wouldn't be the case."
Cork is on loan to Watford until the end of the season and will not have long to face his former teammates - Saints visit Vicarage Road on February 7.
But Poortvliet is trying to remain positive. He added: "We're busy looking at people to bring in and preparing for Manchester United without Jack - this gives opportunities to other players."
Other Watford loanees include Saints striker Grzegorz Rasiak, Arsenal's Gavin Hoyte and Chelsea's Liam Bridcutt.
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Mark-, Southampton says...
10:33am Fri 2 Jan 09
Saint, says...
10:35am Fri 2 Jan 09
Forest have now got Davis, and other clubs in trouble are acting.While Lowe just sits back on his gamble waiting for the club to hit the wall. This man has got rid of others for less. What is he waiting for, or simply he is not man enough to admitt his gamble has not worked.
couzzy, southampton says...
10:44am Fri 2 Jan 09
Ben280881, Southampton says...
11:03am Fri 2 Jan 09
Other than Kelvin Davies he has been the only one who has actually played above average this season!!
RIP Saints.
hampshirehawk, southampton says...
11:06am Fri 2 Jan 09
couzzy wrote:Couzzy you are so right, the only decent signing Jan has made couldn't wait to leave. As for those 2 signed yesterday perhaps Jan knows more than David Moyes!! 2 and a half year deal for Molyneaux who couldn't get near Evertons first team and a castoff from 1st div Millwall. Just a very sick joke, its all ending in tears.
last week he (cork) declared that he wanted to stay with us, what changed?!! He has just switched one relagation battle for another. Something is VERY VERY VERY wrong with the club at the minute, worse than i think we (the fans) have feared.I think the timing of the two signings yesterday was a ploy to please fans all the while a mass mass exodus is being prepared behind closed doors.
Mike_Saint, Soton says...
11:17am Fri 2 Jan 09
hampshirehawk wrote:Come on Couzzy dont blame Jan for the commings & goings thats Lowes work! Jan just cant motivate a sausage!
couzzy wrote: last week he (cork) declared that he wanted to stay with us, what changed?!! He has just switched one relagation battle for another. Something is VERY VERY VERY wrong with the club at the minute, worse than i think we (the fans) have feared.I think the timing of the two signings yesterday was a ploy to please fans all the while a mass mass exodus is being prepared behind closed doors.Couzzy you are so right, the only decent signing Jan has made couldn't wait to leave. As for those 2 signed yesterday perhaps Jan knows more than David Moyes!! 2 and a half year deal for Molyneaux who couldn't get near Evertons first team and a castoff from 1st div Millwall. Just a very sick joke, its all ending in tears.
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
11:20am Fri 2 Jan 09
Why is it that Arsene Wenger isn't beating a path to your door to give some of his youngsters the 'total football' experience at Southampton?
Could it be that like everyone else in football he sees it for what it really is 'total nonsense'?
Nurse come quickly, it's time again for Mr Lowe's medication.
Mike_Saint, Soton says...
11:23am Fri 2 Jan 09
No Cork - Tommorow we will find out no Surman - No Llana & possibly no Rudi and who knows possibly Kelvin might develop a dodgy back?
YoumLowe lovies are doing SFC no good its time for change and there is only one way thats going to happen and thats to get rid of Lowe!
Lowes wifr didn't want him to come back & we dont want him here so lets prove his wife right!
Reality-man, Southampton says...
11:24am Fri 2 Jan 09
All this 'thanks Jack for the service' nonsense. He came to us as he wasn't getting a game with his club. He got paid, He played every week. As a result of that he got into the under 21 set-up. Now he's used us to raise his profile he's off.
Condor Man, Southampton says...
11:25am Fri 2 Jan 09
Mike_Saint, Soton says...
11:30am Fri 2 Jan 09
No worries though weve got Molyneux & Smith! WHO! do I hear you say!
Password is walk-rate is that for how many we are about to loose!
Mike_Saint, Soton says...
11:36am Fri 2 Jan 09
Reality-man wrote:Perhaps Cork & Pearce know something none of us fans do? Who would want to or continue to play for a doomed football club?
I don't think the club are to blame on this one. He stated quite clearly that he wanted to stay and i think we quite clearly stated that we wanted him to stay. What Jack Cork forgot to add to his 'i really want to stay here' comments were......unless a better offer comes along. I was commending his loyalty to the cause only a week or so ago. Yeah he's not our player but why come out and say how happy you are and then jump ship when one of your old mates comes calling? I could understand if it was a premier league club. All this 'thanks Jack for the service' nonsense. He came to us as he wasn't getting a game with his club. He got paid, He played every week. As a result of that he got into the under 21 set-up. Now he's used us to raise his profile he's off.
PS:- Step up to the plate the mighty Svennson or is his achilles still bad or perhaps if the truth waqs told his kneees ******!
Rupert would never admit his knees gone after wasting a contract on him , all I can say is well done killer for stuffing Lowe !
Roman Gasmi's Fifa09 Mullet, Isle of Wight says...
11:38am Fri 2 Jan 09
Also the management team knew he was not signing a few days ago which makes it all the harder to swallow and they tried to soften the blow with news of 2 2nd rate signings.
Also the Spin about Surman and Lallana being injured is quite franlkly an insult to the fans intelligence as they are next out for peanuts, this club is on the ropes and we all know it....TIME FOR ACTION!!!
Ben280881, Southampton says...
11:39am Fri 2 Jan 09
Reality-man wrote:And how did he get into the Under-21's?! Because he was playing well at Saints and getting noticed!?!? Bingo!!
I don't think the club are to blame on this one. He stated quite clearly that he wanted to stay and i think we quite clearly stated that we wanted him to stay. What Jack Cork forgot to add to his 'i really want to stay here' comments were......unless a better offer comes along. I was commending his loyalty to the cause only a week or so ago. Yeah he's not our player but why come out and say how happy you are and then jump ship when one of your old mates comes calling? I could understand if it was a premier league club. All this 'thanks Jack for the service' nonsense. He came to us as he wasn't getting a game with his club. He got paid, He played every week. As a result of that he got into the under 21 set-up. Now he's used us to raise his profile he's off.
How many footballers say one thing and do another!?!? He is not our player and therefore has no loyalty in having to stay at Saints !!
steveyot, Harefield says...
11:52am Fri 2 Jan 09
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
11:55am Fri 2 Jan 09
forcaster, spain says...
12:05pm Fri 2 Jan 09
cpnhaddock, Southampton says...
12:06pm Fri 2 Jan 09
I found it interesting that all of the 'Lowe Lovers' and 'Blind Faith' Supporters should comment about us 'More Cautionary' Supporters after the 2 Points lost against Reading.... I believe the spin was much on the lines of 'There were no Lowe Protests' and 'Look at how many people turned out'.... Interestingly, I expected us to get a sizeable increase in attendance in preparation for the farcical Man Utd fixture (obviously people rapidly trying to get a purchase history!)...
Lets not fool ourselves - Chelsea would have been certainly subsidizing if not paying all of Corks wages whilst on loan with us.... The reason he will have gone to Watford is more likely that he is disillusioned with something major at SFC... MONEY WOULD MOST DEFINITELY NOT BE A FACTOR.
I also would join those who have commended his performances in the red and white.... he and Kelvin have been consistent and showed effort!
As for the TWO FANTASTIC SIGNINGS yesterday!!!... well!!! I am so pleased that we are addressing our width issues!!!... eeerrrrrmmmmm.... dont we already have Dyer, Thompson, McGlaggon, Holmes!! Why sign Smith???? he looked poor at best the other day!!
Then it is also good to see we have begun to address our defensive woes.... OH NO!!!... the best the article could state was that he hit a free kick!... (I admit it was a hell of a goal though!)...
Jan and Lowe are selling this club up the river.... we are making no signings of any real worth - no signings that demonstrate that they have what it takes to get us out of this relegation battle....
This has no gone too far and I actually think that even if we get rid of Jan we are still doomed to League 1(but Lowe wont do that as it will show that he failed).
I love this club.... but I am resigned to the fact that the board, the management and many of the players have laughed at the expense of our supporters...
george chivers, basingstoke says...
12:54pm Fri 2 Jan 09
If we go down your shares will be worth even less. Lowe must go. Saints must stay up.Its January you are in the last chance saloon its time you bought the fans some New Year cheer.
We can only fail with these clowns in control.
San Marco, says...
12:56pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
1:02pm Fri 2 Jan 09
No ambition
No quality
No hope
With Molyneux in I can only imagine with offloaded Rudi. Start the new year as we mean to go on.
LOWE OUT
allsaintsnocurves, Southampton says...
1:10pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Saints are well and truly in a relegation fight now and do not look like they have the fight to stay up! I would get Dowie in now and give them a chance...but I fear that Lowe expects them to go down anyway. Maybe we should do a leeds go into Administration take the reduction and start again next year for Div 1! The younger players should be able to win some games in that league!
robhythe, Southampton says...
1:19pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Jesus_02, Freemantle says...
1:24pm Fri 2 Jan 09
forcaster wrote:Will those that inexplicably support RL please take note
As a Watford supporter and a keen follower of the Saints because the family live in Southampton I have to say this.The Saints problem is the lack of experience of your manager,he has played Cork out of position at times and is probally fed up.He knows the new Watford gaffer and his style of play.Watford are in just as much of a financial mess as the Saints are,BUT we at least obtain a new raw manager who has the expertise of league soccer albeit with a top team reserves.Its NOT money thats your problem but your manager and a certain Rupert Lowe.
Cork left because of our set up, and because we concded like water dispite having a good defence.
We\have a wishy washy midfield that has no outlet up front.
Mcgoldrick poses no threat at all. Can we see the clamour for his signature?
AndyAndrews, West End says...
1:25pm Fri 2 Jan 09
ray bennett, olando says...
1:47pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Robbie Robertson, Fareham says...
1:52pm Fri 2 Jan 09
I agree with the other comments on here about Surman & Lallana not playing. Pure coincidence that they won't then be cup-tied if they're sold, and therefore worth more??? Don't think so. We can all see through that one.
Large crowd for the Reading match could have had something to do with the fact that people wanting tickets for the Man Utd Match had to buy a ticket for another match. I wasn't born cynical, just driven to it.
The reality is that Jan will play 4-5-1 (or a variant of it) because he is trying to prove that it works. He's also trying to prove that the youth policy will work. I will support Saints on Sunday (in hte norhtam stand with all the other noisy yobs, but I've bought my ticket, I'll be a noisy yob if I want) but I predict a cricket score. THe 'Head in the sand- I'm confident that the results we need are just around the corner' attitude is going to kill the club. I wonder where Poortvliet gets his obstinacy from. THere were fans who said to give the set up 10 games. THey shouted it loud and proud in July. Where are they now???
Enough said.
Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 says...
1:55pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Robbie Robertson, Fareham says...
2:31pm Fri 2 Jan 09
I see Dyer has gone to Swansea. Not bringing him back should free up the battle for midfiled places.
Good news at last. Ryan Smith is confident of a cup upset.
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
2:35pm Fri 2 Jan 09
TedStripes, Southampton says...
3:06pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Then we get Dyer back only to loan him out again to the end of the season. Alex Pearce now you see him: now you don`t. Jack Cork to Watford was always going to happen. Hopefully Alex Fergusson will realise that we are going to field an accademy side and will give us a draw so we can cash in at Old Trafford. After all it is Pantomime season.
I am still 100% behind the boys but fear we may now get tonked by Man Utd and that will do us no good at all. If you are the last one out SMS you will not have to turn the lights out as by then the electric would have been cut off.
HAPPY NEW YEAR living in hope.
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
3:42pm Fri 2 Jan 09
hands249, Southampton says...
3:50pm Fri 2 Jan 09
TedStripes, Southampton says...
4:18pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Prediction time again: -
Saints 2 Man Utd 0 EASY, EASY, EASY
Dazzz, Southampton says...
4:25pm Fri 2 Jan 09
TedStripes wrote:the bookies are offering 10/1 on a saints win..... ger ya money on folks !!!
I would go to OT but have just noticed the security word BEST-THEM this site is spooked for sure. Prediction time again: - Saints 2 Man Utd 0 EASY, EASY, EASY
St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
4:36pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Even if we score first, it will just make them angry. Kelvin must have used up his share of luck this season with the amount of world class stops already.
If United laid siege to our goal for more than 15-mins we will buckle never mind lasting 85-mins. If we went 2-0 up, whilst everyone would be wetting themselves - we can't defend. Face the facts United are the best club team in the world - they won't panic. They know we can only play for 75-mins...that last 15-mins they are more than capable of sticking 3 past our defence.
Cheer up Rupert the money is in the bank...se if you can pursuade Sir Alex to play for a draw and get their youth team out again at OT for a replay!
I think a draw would do morale a great deal of good...but we can only dream!
US Spitfire, Idaho USA says...
4:46pm Fri 2 Jan 09
thehutchmeister, southampton says...
5:46pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Sly Stallone, New York says...
5:56pm Fri 2 Jan 09
boondocksaint08, SLC says...
6:45pm Fri 2 Jan 09
every week i believe we can win our games, every week i cheer on our boys, but things like this just make it harder to swallow at the end of the day...
i fully support the lads, def. not the board..LOWE OUT!!!
doctorsaint, Hedge End says...
6:45pm Fri 2 Jan 09
boondocksaint08, SLC says...
6:47pm Fri 2 Jan 09
doctorsaint wrote:oh don't worry, perhaps we can pull a forward like saganowski and throw him back there, that seems to be jan's way of thinking...
Who the hell is going to play centre back ?? We have Perry and Lancashire - that's it. We won't see Svensson and Thomas again this season. This is suicide.
TedStripes, Southampton says...
7:22pm Fri 2 Jan 09
"I new after the Villa game that we would be relegated from the premiership, and today I know we are relegated from the Championship."
I had the same thoughts back then, I was by the players car park at the Chappel End, just looking at the cars and I thought how canyou motivate these players when this looks like the Frankfurt motor show. I am not quite so pessimistic now but if we fail to attract a couple of defenders before the end of Jan we will continue to be mugged out of games. I can see the words forming in the distance "Too good to go down". I would swap a victory over Man Utd for a win at Oakwell and against Donny.
Chris1991, Marchwood says...
7:24pm Fri 2 Jan 09
memush, dibden purlieu says...
7:38pm Fri 2 Jan 09
?. If they play they will be cup-tied and their value will plummett. I m sure discreet offers have alledgely been made and possibly aggreed to provided they are not cup-tied.
homegrown, southampton says...
8:02pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Obee-One, Lordswood says...
8:59pm Fri 2 Jan 09
homegrown wrote:I hear what you are saying and you're definatley not alone.
FOOKING HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THIS FOOKING DUMB FOOKED OUTSIDER TEAR OUR CLUB TO PIECES. FOR FOOK SAKE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON STOP MOANING ABOUT IT ON HERE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT,LOWE IS TAKING THE ****,EVERYONE MEET BY TED BATES STATUE AT 3PM ON SUNDAY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Something needs to be done sooner rather than later, I'd love to see the fans voice there opinions and I guess with the attendance being the highest this season on Sunday that would be the ideal time to have a moan.
The mood around the City reminds me of our first season in the Championship, everyone wanted Rupert out then and we kind of succeeded, we got Crouch and allthough I really liked him and felt that he tried his best it didn't work so back came Lowe, he's like a boomerang, we need him to go for good, has anyone got any ideas? ? ?
Lets hope that we cause an upset at the weekend and then go on to get some well needed points in the league.
Keep believing, if you can't then start hoping and praying, we've all got our different opinions but we all LOVE the SAINTS.
Come on you Saints fans and
COME ON YOU REDS
Reality-man, Southampton says...
9:12pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Ben280881 wrote:As i said - he played every week and as a result of this got picked for the under 21's. And as i said he is not our player so why should he show loyalty. Yet he came out only in the last week or two and said how 'desperate' he was to stay longer - why say this?
Reality-man wrote: I don't think the club are to blame on this one. He stated quite clearly that he wanted to stay and i think we quite clearly stated that we wanted him to stay. What Jack Cork forgot to add to his 'i really want to stay here' comments were......unless a better offer comes along. I was commending his loyalty to the cause only a week or so ago. Yeah he's not our player but why come out and say how happy you are and then jump ship when one of your old mates comes calling? I could understand if it was a premier league club. All this 'thanks Jack for the service' nonsense. He came to us as he wasn't getting a game with his club. He got paid, He played every week. As a result of that he got into the under 21 set-up. Now he's used us to raise his profile he's off.And how did he get into the Under-21's?! Because he was playing well at Saints and getting noticed!?!? Bingo!! How many footballers say one thing and do another!?!? He is not our player and therefore has no loyalty in having to stay at Saints !!
matty07uk, Locks heath says...
9:13pm Fri 2 Jan 09
The only hope now is down to us fans. We need to make life uncomfortable for Lowe and Portvlieet that they both pack their bags and go. We are down if they stay so we cant be any worse off if we get rid of them. Lowe needs to know just how much he is hated every game before, during and after.
boondocksaint08, Boston says...
9:54pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
9:56pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Take a look at this priceless quote on the official website from that dumb dutch coach you appointed: 'We need a forward who is that extra bit special, someone who can take us to 2-0 and beyond, although the boys in our team are not far off being able to do that'.
Listen here Rupert, we have managed just 7 goals in the last 10 Championship games, and you expect the fans to swallow the fact that 'the boys in our team are not far off being able to do that'.
Don't insult our intelligence. Taxi for Poortvliet.
Nurse come quickly, it's time for Mr Lowe's enema.
RomseyTom, Romsey says...
10:14pm Fri 2 Jan 09
Support the Saints-Terrorise the Board!
TottonScrutineer, Totton says...
11:07pm Fri 2 Jan 09
homegrown, southampton says...
1:31am Sat 3 Jan 09
Someone said The problem is 80% of Saints fans have this poor negative attitude towards our club, as above.
You might want to bow to Lowe, but l wont.
I aint going to let this virus KILL my club,fook him!
the third hardest man in sholing, southampton says...
1:30pm Sat 3 Jan 09
TottonScrutineer wrote: Someone said The problem is 80% of Saints fans have this poor negative attitude towards our club, as above. You might want to bow to Lowe, but l wont. I aint going to let this virus KILL my club,fook him! I dont bow to anyone mate,i just can`t see a messiah coming to rescue our club... it`s not going to happen,we`re in debt, big time,just like loads and loads of other clubs .Get real.
Costa Baz, Southampton says...
4:50pm Sat 3 Jan 09
It seems that the first questions being asked of any potential signing is "How old are you?" and "How cheap are you?", when it should be "Tell me what you can do to improve this team?" and "How much does joining this mean to you?"
Our debts are well catalogued and our money is limited, but surely we have the right to question if the money is being spent wisely and not frittered away on signing players based on what they will accept in their wage packet rather than what they can offer in terms of ability and commitment on the field of play?
Still it seems that one money saving exercise has been carried out.
Judging by the lack of comments by certain people, it would appear the PR payments have been stopped.
thehutchmeister, southampton says...
5:49pm Sat 3 Jan 09
Traceyf, Southampton says...
7:44pm Sat 3 Jan 09
thehutchmeister wrote:Why so you need Lowes address for? He works at SMS and is seen there on a regular basis.
Can anyone get hold of Lowes address? If we can make this widely known then he would have to quit, and leave the country! It's the only way i can think that we can get rid of him. Someone must know it, or be able to find it. I'll be the first one there protesting at his front gate.
St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
7:51pm Sat 3 Jan 09
The Dingly Dell
Doncaster Belle Lane
Somehwere in The Cotswolds
Gloucestershire
RU9 3RT
Just contact your friendly policeman with access to SWansea records and ask for the address of the car he drives! Fancy a protest march in the Cotswolds then?
Although just like Jack Straw who didn't drive and yet had a major input into the road development plans for the future...Rupert seems to be in the same position when Managing a football club!
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St.Yorkie, Pocklington says...
10:30am Fri 2 Jan 09
Better the devil you know Jack?
Good luck at Watford and thanks for all your hard work trying to keep our back line solid.