Wotte 'speechless' after losing his job (From This is Hampshire)

Nothing to say wrote:
I feel more sorry for all the ordinary staff members who were sacked over the past 18 months by Lowe and his cronies. Wotte was at the club less than a year, he did next to nothing for the first few months, undermined Poortvliet, allowed himself to be Lowe's mouthpiece for a period and most importantly, when he got the job as manager, he was allowed to use more players than his predecessor and he still ended up with a worse win record than him! Since the end of the season, he's still been paid by the club and then got an extended contract when no one else at the club did. So that means he's been paid compensation, when a week ago, he would have got nowt. So thanks Mark, but I'm sorry, he's not the "saint" that many are painting him to be. He got an opportunity in English football that no other club would have given him and he wasn't up to the job. Simple as that. Liebherr has a long term plan for Saints, I suspect our new manager will be in place for a number of years. So he needs to be here at the start of the new era, sorting out which players he wants and training the squad immediately for the new season.

stmarysmush wrote:
Cant Kelvin Davis go with him ? less get rid of all under performing staff and players.

Ross96 wrote:

stmarysmush wrote: Cant Kelvin Davis go with him ? less get rid of all under performing staff and players.

How is kelv an underperformer???

stmarysmush wrote:
Cant Kelvin Davis go with him ? less get rid of all under performing staff and players.

Jparcoeur wrote:
He coached on a team that won how many homes games last year?? No sympathy, in this business the first priority is winnning. Don't do that, don't expect to have a job. Great call from the top. time to clean house and win games.

realist returns wrote:

stmarysmush wrote: Cant Kelvin Davis go with him ? less get rid of all under performing staff and players.

well, that'll be all of them, then!!!!

Burton Saint wrote:
First and foremost Saints new owner is German. In business they are ruthlessly efficient. I have worked in southern Germany, Socially they are superb hosts and excellent company but when it come to business sentimentality goes out of the window. I am not surprised that Wotte has gone. I'd expect there to be other casualties including Michael Svennson and Gorre won't be back. What we can also expect is that Saints will be managed, top to bottom, effectively and efficiently from now on. This isn't an impulse buy from an ego driven individual but someone who sees the potential to turn a failing business around and get a return on their investment. Interesting times ahead!

Nothing to say wrote:
I feel more sorry for all the ordinary staff members who were sacked over the past 18 months by Lowe and his cronies. Wotte was at the club less than a year, he did next to nothing for the first few months, undermined Poortvliet, allowed himself to be Lowe's mouthpiece for a period and most importantly, when he got the job as manager, he was allowed to use more players than his predecessor and he still ended up with a worse win record than him! Since the end of the season, he's still been paid by the club and then got an extended contract when no one else at the club did. So that means he's been paid compensation, when a week ago, he would have got nowt. So thanks Mark, but I'm sorry, he's not the "saint" that many are painting him to be. He got an opportunity in English football that no other club would have given him and he wasn't up to the job. Simple as that. Liebherr has a long term plan for Saints, I suspect our new manager will be in place for a number of years. So he needs to be here at the start of the new era, sorting out which players he wants and training the squad immediately for the new season.

brennothornhill wrote:
Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

TottonScrutineer wrote:

Nothing to say wrote: I feel more sorry for all the ordinary staff members who were sacked over the past 18 months by Lowe and his cronies. Wotte was at the club less than a year, he did next to nothing for the first few months, undermined Poortvliet, allowed himself to be Lowe's mouthpiece for a period and most importantly, when he got the job as manager, he was allowed to use more players than his predecessor and he still ended up with a worse win record than him! Since the end of the season, he's still been paid by the club and then got an extended contract when no one else at the club did. So that means he's been paid compensation, when a week ago, he would have got nowt. So thanks Mark, but I'm sorry, he's not the "saint" that many are painting him to be. He got an opportunity in English football that no other club would have given him and he wasn't up to the job. Simple as that. Liebherr has a long term plan for Saints, I suspect our new manager will be in place for a number of years. So he needs to be here at the start of the new era, sorting out which players he wants and training the squad immediately for the new season.

Sorry this is not a very kind comment this man was loyal to the Saints cause and would have given his all for the club.Only time would have shown whether he was up to the job.First bad mistake of the new regime let's hope we don't see anymore

TottonScrutineer wrote:

Nothing to say wrote:
I feel more sorry for all the ordinary staff members who were sacked over the past 18 months by Lowe and his cronies. Wotte was at the club less than a year, he did next to nothing for the first few months, undermined Poortvliet, allowed himself to be Lowe's mouthpiece for a period and most importantly, when he got the job as manager, he was allowed to use more players than his predecessor and he still ended up with a worse win record than him! Since the end of the season, he's still been paid by the club and then got an extended contract when no one else at the club did. So that means he's been paid compensation, when a week ago, he would have got nowt. So thanks Mark, but I'm sorry, he's not the "saint" that many are painting him to be. He got an opportunity in English football that no other club would have given him and he wasn't up to the job. Simple as that. Liebherr has a long term plan for Saints, I suspect our new manager will be in place for a number of years. So he needs to be here at the start of the new era, sorting out which players he wants and training the squad immediately for the new season.

Sorry this is not a very kind comment this man was loyal to the Saints cause and would have given his all for the club.Only time would have shown whether he was up to the job.First bad mistake of the new regime let's hope we don't see anymore

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

North West Saint wrote:
My comment on Big Sam was just an example ;)

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

brennothornhill wrote:

North West Saint wrote:
My comment on Big Sam was just an example ;)

would have been nice, what does everyone think of David O'leary, he has just appeared in the press of late

Saints Mike wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

5 years of watching the sad demise of our great club, I couldn't agree more. Davis will be the best goalie in that league by a country mile. The young un's will be far better this year than last, they have skill, pace, and now experience of playing at a higher level, something they didn't have a year ago. Bring in a decent manager with a proven track record, and remember we still have Stern John, Wayne Thomas aint gone no where yet, mixed the experience with youth, I think with have the recipe for success. I seem to remember a manager doing this before, mixing Steve Williams with Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Steve Moran, Mick Channon, I remember coming 2nd in the old 1st division doing it that way. I don't think it was wrong then I don't think it wrong now. Onwards and Upwards with the Saints

TottonScrutineer wrote:

Nothing to say wrote: I feel more sorry for all the ordinary staff members who were sacked over the past 18 months by Lowe and his cronies. Wotte was at the club less than a year, he did next to nothing for the first few months, undermined Poortvliet, allowed himself to be Lowe's mouthpiece for a period and most importantly, when he got the job as manager, he was allowed to use more players than his predecessor and he still ended up with a worse win record than him! Since the end of the season, he's still been paid by the club and then got an extended contract when no one else at the club did. So that means he's been paid compensation, when a week ago, he would have got nowt. So thanks Mark, but I'm sorry, he's not the "saint" that many are painting him to be. He got an opportunity in English football that no other club would have given him and he wasn't up to the job. Simple as that. Liebherr has a long term plan for Saints, I suspect our new manager will be in place for a number of years. So he needs to be here at the start of the new era, sorting out which players he wants and training the squad immediately for the new season.

Sorry this is not a very kind comment this man was loyal to the Saints cause and would have given his all for the club.Only time would have shown whether he was up to the job.First bad mistake of the new regime let's hope we don't see anymore

brennothornhill wrote:

Saints Mike wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

5 years of watching the sad demise of our great club, I couldn't agree more. Davis will be the best goalie in that league by a country mile. The young un's will be far better this year than last, they have skill, pace, and now experience of playing at a higher level, something they didn't have a year ago. Bring in a decent manager with a proven track record, and remember we still have Stern John, Wayne Thomas aint gone no where yet, mixed the experience with youth, I think with have the recipe for success. I seem to remember a manager doing this before, mixing Steve Williams with Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Steve Moran, Mick Channon, I remember coming 2nd in the old 1st division doing it that way. I don't think it was wrong then I don't think it wrong now. Onwards and Upwards with the Saints

I live in manchester and just spoke to someone who works in southampton and they said WGS was seen walking into St Marys at 9 this morning. It is not a reliable source but a source none the less, wishing thinking perhaps but would actually think I would kiss the new owners 4 times if they pulled that off

brennothornhill wrote:

Saints Mike wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

5 years of watching the sad demise of our great club, I couldn't agree more. Davis will be the best goalie in that league by a country mile. The young un's will be far better this year than last, they have skill, pace, and now experience of playing at a higher level, something they didn't have a year ago. Bring in a decent manager with a proven track record, and remember we still have Stern John, Wayne Thomas aint gone no where yet, mixed the experience with youth, I think with have the recipe for success. I seem to remember a manager doing this before, mixing Steve Williams with Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Steve Moran, Mick Channon, I remember coming 2nd in the old 1st division doing it that way. I don't think it was wrong then I don't think it wrong now. Onwards and Upwards with the Saints

I live in manchester and just spoke to someone who works in southampton and they said WGS was seen walking into St Marys at 9 this morning. It is not a reliable source but a source none the less, wishing thinking perhaps but would actually think I would kiss the new owners 4 times if they pulled that off

Saints Mike wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

Saints Mike wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

5 years of watching the sad demise of our great club, I couldn't agree more. Davis will be the best goalie in that league by a country mile. The young un's will be far better this year than last, they have skill, pace, and now experience of playing at a higher level, something they didn't have a year ago. Bring in a decent manager with a proven track record, and remember we still have Stern John, Wayne Thomas aint gone no where yet, mixed the experience with youth, I think with have the recipe for success. I seem to remember a manager doing this before, mixing Steve Williams with Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Steve Moran, Mick Channon, I remember coming 2nd in the old 1st division doing it that way. I don't think it was wrong then I don't think it wrong now. Onwards and Upwards with the Saints

I live in manchester and just spoke to someone who works in southampton and they said WGS was seen walking into St Marys at 9 this morning. It is not a reliable source but a source none the less, wishing thinking perhaps but would actually think I would kiss the new owners 4 times if they pulled that off

Just asked my source and they have heard nothing, she is really good normally, she told all about ML ages ago, and MW going before he knew, she will let me know if there anything in it. I hope she is wrong and WGS come back...

Saint wrote:
If a clean sweep is the truth, then this would be a good thing! Though if a clean sweep is in play now, they must get rid of that plank Oldknow! Not bring him back.

stmarysmush wrote:
Cant Kelvin Davis go with him ? less get rid of all under performing staff and players.

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

brennothornhill wrote:

Saint wrote: If a clean sweep is the truth, then this would be a good thing! Though if a clean sweep is in play now, they must get rid of that plank Oldknow! Not bring him back.

and what did oldknow do previously to give you that opinion? Are you Rupert Lowe?

brennothornhill wrote:

Saint wrote: If a clean sweep is the truth, then this would be a good thing! Though if a clean sweep is in play now, they must get rid of that plank Oldknow! Not bring him back.

and what did oldknow do previously to give you that opinion? Are you Rupert Lowe?

Tevez888 wrote:
WGS offered 3 year contract, worth £500k with £150 bonus for any promotion during that time. Word from the Club says that Strachan has accepted the deal provided he is able to get revenue straight away and that he can allow Henderson to take charge of affairs while he scouts and talks to contats about signings. Strachan has already earmarked Richard Eckersley of Manchester United as a target after talks took place between QPR and United over the player. Strachan has moved straight in and asked for an initial 6month loan and the option of the remaining season if Fergie accepts that he is being played and getting the experiance. Very reliable and will be announced soon

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
I have just received a text from a reliable source to say that Strachan was at Staplewood this morning.

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

Sorry guys you lot are all right and im wrong. I havnt been following Saints at all. The record books must be all wrong. We had good players in the Prem and were relgated. Those good players in the Prem wernt good enough in the Championship and we got relegated. Now we have good Championship players in Div 1. Lets see were we are in the league this year. Blind devotion im short of.....guess im too much of a realist.

Saint Rob wrote:
Confused? Who is WGS?

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

Sorry guys you lot are all right and im wrong. I havnt been following Saints at all. The record books must be all wrong. We had good players in the Prem and were relgated. Those good players in the Prem wernt good enough in the Championship and we got relegated. Now we have good Championship players in Div 1. Lets see were we are in the league this year. Blind devotion im short of.....guess im too much of a realist.

phillips, crouch, baird, niemi and countless others sold when we got relegated mate. Correct me if I am wrong did we not make the playoffs and only lose out on penalties to going back up? Hmm did we not then sell others such as walcott, loaned out rasiak, john, skacel amongst others to leave, oh no we still had the same team as what we had in the prem didnt we? get real mate

Saint Rob wrote:
Confused? Who is WGS?

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

Sorry guys you lot are all right and im wrong. I havnt been following Saints at all. The record books must be all wrong. We had good players in the Prem and were relgated. Those good players in the Prem wernt good enough in the Championship and we got relegated. Now we have good Championship players in Div 1. Lets see were we are in the league this year. Blind devotion im short of.....guess im too much of a realist.

phillips, crouch, baird, niemi and countless others sold when we got relegated mate. Correct me if I am wrong did we not make the playoffs and only lose out on penalties to going back up? Hmm did we not then sell others such as walcott, loaned out rasiak, john, skacel amongst others to leave, oh no we still had the same team as what we had in the prem didnt we? get real mate

Forester7 wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

Sorry guys you lot are all right and im wrong. I havnt been following Saints at all. The record books must be all wrong. We had good players in the Prem and were relgated. Those good players in the Prem wernt good enough in the Championship and we got relegated. Now we have good Championship players in Div 1. Lets see were we are in the league this year. Blind devotion im short of.....guess im too much of a realist.

phillips, crouch, baird, niemi and countless others sold when we got relegated mate. Correct me if I am wrong did we not make the playoffs and only lose out on penalties to going back up? Hmm did we not then sell others such as walcott, loaned out rasiak, john, skacel amongst others to leave, oh no we still had the same team as what we had in the prem didnt we? get real mate

Yes, you're wrong! We missed out on penalties to reaching the play-off final.

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote:

stmarysmush wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

So do you think an average Championship player will be a good League 1 player then ? Dont they have to tackle and pass the ball and score in league 1 also. Boys against men last year....will still be boys against men this year im afraid.

mate I dont know why you are so negative but its really bugging me. Its standard that an average player in league 2 is worse than an average player in league 1, and an average player in league 1 is average is worse than an average in the championship. Its common sense, hence the reason why clubs that go down are USUALLY favourites to go back up again. Players like Gillet, Lallana, James etc have had an extra years experience which will only make them better. As for men, your saying get rid of davies, you are contradicting yourself, you want men but also want to get rid of one of our most experienced players? seriosly you either dont go to games are just a big pessimist. Let me tell you something, as a Saints fan, the past 5 years have been bad, and we are now getting good news for the first time in a long while so stop moaning and critising players that are going to help get us out of this league and support the club.

Sorry guys you lot are all right and im wrong. I havnt been following Saints at all. The record books must be all wrong. We had good players in the Prem and were relgated. Those good players in the Prem wernt good enough in the Championship and we got relegated. Now we have good Championship players in Div 1. Lets see were we are in the league this year. Blind devotion im short of.....guess im too much of a realist.

phillips, crouch, baird, niemi and countless others sold when we got relegated mate. Correct me if I am wrong did we not make the playoffs and only lose out on penalties to going back up? Hmm did we not then sell others such as walcott, loaned out rasiak, john, skacel amongst others to leave, oh no we still had the same team as what we had in the prem didnt we? get real mate

We would have gone up if KD would have kept his legs shut and kicked the ball into row z in the QPR game at home. He arguably cost us that season. Still past is past. Lets hope we get a good manager and the funds to develop SAINTS to were they belong very soon. COYR

stmarysmush wrote:
didnt john terry miss a penalty the other week for the euro cup ? so id say yes one moment can change the season. Any way no to stracs i say. Any one who picks a team to lose 1 nil in the cup final we dont need back. Steve Coppel please.

weh8pompey wrote:
allow me to retort mark. "a fresh start" really means u are a sh@t manager and they want a better one. sorry and thanks but i thought i would chime in with a reality check.but you are a nice guy. ill have a smoke with you one day in an amsterdam cafe and put the world to rights.

mr.southampton wrote:
Before people start criticising MW, how many managers whatever their level of ability or experience can continue pulling of results against a backdrop of boardroom battles and looming insolvency??

MW did as much as could be expected given the circumstances and went over and above the call of duty to pick the flag up off the floor and rally the club when it looked like it could all be over.

weh8pompey wrote:
TONY ADAMS IN TALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!SS NEWS UNDERSTANDS

Folkestone Saint wrote:
How can anyone want wgs back, he said he wanted time out when we were on for a european spot, we dropped like a stone to tenth and he started a new job not long after leaving us. I am not questioning his abillity as a manager or player but would question his loyalty if things got tough or a better offer came along.

adam1981 wrote:

weh8pompey wrote: TONY ADAMS IN TALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!SS NEWS UNDERSTANDS

you are joking? please no!!!

Folkestone Saint wrote:
How can anyone want wgs back, he said he wanted time out when we were on for a european spot, we dropped like a stone to tenth and he started a new job not long after leaving us. I am not questioning his abillity as a manager or player but would question his loyalty if things got tough or a better offer came along.

H0ckeyd wrote:

mr.southampton wrote: Before people start criticising MW, how many managers whatever their level of ability or experience can continue pulling of results against a backdrop of boardroom battles and looming insolvency?? MW did as much as could be expected given the circumstances and went over and above the call of duty to pick the flag up off the floor and rally the club when it looked like it could all be over.

The point being, when a cheap manager (Porterloo) is doing so badly (which, technically, his record was still better than Wotte) you DO NOT replace him with his CHEAPER assistant. .i.e Wotte should not have been there in the first place.

Folkestone Saint wrote:
How can anyone want wgs back, he said he wanted time out when we were on for a european spot, we dropped like a stone to tenth and he started a new job not long after leaving us. I am not questioning his abillity as a manager or player but would question his loyalty if things got tough or a better offer came along.

saint tom wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote: How can anyone want wgs back, he said he wanted time out when we were on for a european spot, we dropped like a stone to tenth and he started a new job not long after leaving us. I am not questioning his abillity as a manager or player but would question his loyalty if things got tough or a better offer came along.

you FOOL !! what was goin on behind the scene is what made wgs go. we will never know the whole story coz lowe makes exes sign papers to shut up redtw*t said as much. woodward and co lowes daft ideas his sell sell sell attitude. wgs could see what was around the corner us goin out of europe at the 1st attempt, and a farce off a chairman. in my opinion he done the right thing. one who should never have been sacked was sturrock.

brennothornhill wrote:
Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

st.athan saint wrote:

brennothornhill wrote: Thanks for staying with us over the summer wotte, you deserve your pay off for that alone. Good luck for the future, unfortunately for us to be successful you couldnt be part of ours. As for the guy saying about Davis, he WAS our best player last season, he had lots of different combinations of defenders in front of him weeke in week out, not even Peter Cech would have done much better last season. And can I bring a case to keep our players? Yeah a lot of them are average championship players, were are in League 1, you do the maths. COYR

sorry dont think many of them are even average championship players.if they were probably would have stayed up.didn't see many better keepers in league than KD.glad he's staying.

Folkestone Saint wrote:

saint tom wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote: How can anyone want wgs back, he said he wanted time out when we were on for a european spot, we dropped like a stone to tenth and he started a new job not long after leaving us. I am not questioning his abillity as a manager or player but would question his loyalty if things got tough or a better offer came along.

you FOOL !! what was goin on behind the scene is what made wgs go. we will never know the whole story coz lowe makes exes sign papers to shut up redtw*t said as much. woodward and co lowes daft ideas his sell sell sell attitude. wgs could see what was around the corner us goin out of europe at the 1st attempt, and a farce off a chairman. in my opinion he done the right thing. one who should never have been sacked was sturrock.

Hey saint tom no need to be rude, living in Folkestone how much info do you think I get, if I am wrong I appologise but my info comes from the Saints website match programs and sky sports, however if his wife was ill how come he got back into managment a short time after leaving us and THAT was my point

FaceonaBus wrote:
gordon strachan is the man. he was at staplewood yesterday. Havent had it confirmed yet but apparently bookies have stopped taking bets for strachan. !!!!

COYR COYR COYR

ben dover wrote:

FaceonaBus wrote: gordon strachan is the man. he was at staplewood yesterday. Havent had it confirmed yet but apparently bookies have stopped taking bets for strachan. !!!! COYR COYR COYR

Please God not strachan get the guy from exeter.

saint tom wrote:

ben dover wrote:

FaceonaBus wrote: gordon strachan is the man. he was at staplewood yesterday. Havent had it confirmed yet but apparently bookies have stopped taking bets for strachan. !!!! COYR COYR COYR

Please God not strachan get the guy from exeter.

oh yes that would be a sep up for us NOT.
he may have played a few games for us but i wouldn`t say promotion from blue sq prem is top class.
would you ??
see what i mean when i say fools.

MILLBRONX MUSH wrote:
does anyone know how much season tickets are they went on sale today

ben dover wrote:

MILLBRONX MUSH wrote: does anyone know how much season tickets are they went on sale today

How much have you got !!

Ross96 wrote:

ben dover wrote:

MILLBRONX MUSH wrote: does anyone know how much season tickets are they went on sale today

How much have you got !!

On the official website at dissapointing prices ):

rijo12 wrote:

Ross96 wrote:

ben dover wrote:

MILLBRONX MUSH wrote: does anyone know how much season tickets are they went on sale today

How much have you got !!

On the official website at dissapointing prices ):

Just got in from the pub, talkin to the real fans all eve. The idiots in ticket office just don't get it. L1 should be cheap, very cheap. You won't see us next season.