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Carter's in shop window
10:57am Wednesday 28th July 2010 in
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- By Adam Leitch » Chief Sports Writer
Saints may have another look at Darren Carter after the Preston player impressed in last night’s 1-0 pre-season friendly win over Barnet.
The 26-year-old midfielder was a surprise inclusion in the Saints side at Underhill as he looks for a new club after being told by North End boss Darren Ferguson he can leave.
Carter did well in the central midfield area and the former Birmingham and West Brom man, who has played at the top level and moved for fees totalling almost £3m in his career, has already turned a few heads at Saints.
He played for Saints after failing to agree terms for a move to Millwall last week.
Boss Alan Pardew said: “We had an opportunity for Darren to come and play for us and we took that opportunity to have a look at him."
Comments(63)
gkmeech
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11:08am Wed 28 Jul 10
mbetts
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11:09am Wed 28 Jul 10
Saintandy7
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11:11am Wed 28 Jul 10
Block41row0sfc
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11:15am Wed 28 Jul 10
gkmeech wrote:Kenny hackett said the other day he would look elsewhere and not offer him a deal. So I heard from my mate who's millwall
The article doesn't say he wasn't good enough for Millwall, it says he could'nt agree terms, so they probably did want him.
gosportsaint
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11:20am Wed 28 Jul 10
If A.P offers him a contract, then he will have earn't it.
On another front, where's Vassell.
BlandfordSaint
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11:32am Wed 28 Jul 10
LeGod
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11:42am Wed 28 Jul 10
Some fans are getting a bit too arrogant before the season has started and you could be eating humble pie if it all backfires.
SouthamptonLegend
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11:44am Wed 28 Jul 10
BlandfordSaint wrote:I'd swap Barnard for Connolly but that's it! Looks a crackin first 11!
Sign Darren Carter now. One year contract - perfect back up to Spider and Hammo. Lets all be realistic, no CM of any ability is likely to come to Saints to warm the bench. This is why Dannes. Lines. Stock etc have not come. And please play the first XI on Saturday. Mine is: Davis, Butts, Dicko, Jose, Jahdi, Spider, Hammo, Adam, Punch, Rickeeee and St Barnard. Any thoughts............
TUNA_MAN
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11:49am Wed 28 Jul 10
saintssaintssaints
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11:52am Wed 28 Jul 10
Still need a winger and a striker. All this call for vassell or someone quick to play with lambert?? Whats all that about. AP has said he wants back up for Lambert - i.e Le Fondre or Charlie Austin. He already has a partner for Lambert in Connelly and barnard.
Carter (year contract)
Winger (please tie up terms for antoino at teh weekend - that often happens when terms play each other).
Striker - Le Fondre is young and won all sorts of players of month, season awards thats what we need someone we can help progress.
Personally I would love us to get these three in but also the goal scoring midfielder AP always talked about early summer. Danns could be the one there?
tugboat
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11:56am Wed 28 Jul 10
ash_
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12:38pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Give him a chance and you never know, could turn out to be the signing of the season. Don't judge until you see him.
Couple of wingers and another striker and we have a complete squad ready to challenge on all fronts this season!
Come on the Saints!!!
BP
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12:43pm Wed 28 Jul 10
We are in League 1, whether we are favourites or not we are still in league 1.
This is exactly the type of player we should be taking a punt on.
Id be very surprised if Millwall didnt think he is good enough because he is just the sort of player with Championship experience they need.
Sign him up AP.
patred
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12:47pm Wed 28 Jul 10
We need to have cover for Hammond and Spiderman and at his best he is more than a match for them, and will keep them honest.
Millwalls loss could be our gain.
DCM
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1:13pm Wed 28 Jul 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:It would be except Lallana and Punch are both injured. Lallana won't be fit for the Plymouth game (let alone Reading), Punch should be back for Plymouth but will probably miss out against Reading as I doubt Pards would risk him.
BlandfordSaint wrote: Sign Darren Carter now. One year contract - perfect back up to Spider and Hammo. Lets all be realistic, no CM of any ability is likely to come to Saints to warm the bench. This is why Dannes. Lines. Stock etc have not come. And please play the first XI on Saturday. Mine is: Davis, Butts, Dicko, Jose, Jahdi, Spider, Hammo, Adam, Punch, Rickeeee and St Barnard. Any thoughts............I'd swap Barnard for Connolly but that's it! Looks a crackin first 11!
I would think he'd go for Holmes or maybe Oxlade-Chamberlain on one flank, with Mills or Dickson on the left, leaving Harding at left back.
Or maybe we'll have a new signing by then?
Red n White
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1:15pm Wed 28 Jul 10
thehutchmeister
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1:58pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Ontario Saint
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2:04pm Wed 28 Jul 10
LittleBrum73
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2:07pm Wed 28 Jul 10
This lad should never have left Birmingham City in the first place, he is quality on the ball and in the tackle, and has a tendency to hit 30yrd scorchers. Don't know why Saints fans are so negative toward him, you're hardly able to compete for the cream are you? AP will do well for you all, just trust his judgement. KRO SOTV
The Unit
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2:32pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Ashby Saint
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3:00pm Wed 28 Jul 10
1. We have lost some good players and not replaced them ie Papa, Antonio. These were players that could turn games and be good to come on in the last 20minutes.
2. So far we have signed 3 full backs and nobody else. We need another CM
3. We have a very strong nucleus but could easily be hampered by injuries, where would we be if Rickie had a long term injury - up the Swanie.
4. Our 1st team wasn't good enough against the more dogged and defensive teams last season - I can't see it being any better at the moment having lost Papa and Antonio
5. Last season we signed two players in the £1m region, it doesn't seem that we are prepared to do that. Is somebody loosing interest?
Lets hope I'm wrong and we have a cracking season.
Ontario Saint
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3:56pm Wed 28 Jul 10
"Our team" had a really slow start last season and the momentum really started to build half way thru the season after which we were beating all the top teams,including those who were promoted.
Yes, we lost 2 excellent players but have more than replaced them with the likes of Richardson, Butterfield etc and others we may be in the process of signing.
Lets not forget we started off with minus 10 points last season & it was always going to be an uphill batle .
What everyone must have observed is that even though Saints are at the 3rd level, the Club is totally confident of success.
This is why players such as Carter, Vassell and other big names who have been linked with Saints.
It is a "new era" for Saints and players are willing to sacrifice the opportunity of playing at the championship level for the long term benefits that Saints can offer them ...(particularly the financial security of a Club now in the top 6 in the UK in the wealth of its owners).
Certainly much to look forward to . My only current concern are the current injuries to Richardson & Lallana ...they are both class players who the Club needs even more than Antonio & Waigo.
Red n White
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4:46pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Ashby Saint
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4:47pm Wed 28 Jul 10
I guess its a case of, is your glass half full or half empty?
There are some fans who believe that we will walk this division and I would just temper this positiveness or possibly arrogance, that it won't be a walk in the park, and although we have bought in some options for full-back we need to improve in other areas as it could be argued that we are weaker in some areas than yester year.
Indeed we did start late and picked up, but we actually finished the season in weaker fashion than Huddersfield, because we couldn't beat the likes of Tranmere. There were a number of games that we only one once a sub like Papa or Antonio were bought on.
Mr Ragworm
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6:13pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Big name signings are not for League 1, maybe next year we can start seeing a few washed up Prem players coming through the door, but for now its League 1 and the lower reaches of the Championship where we seem to be casting our net.
Bring on the season, cannot wait..
ali dia
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6:55pm Wed 28 Jul 10
tugboat
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7:21pm Wed 28 Jul 10
ali dia wrote:you are so right it hurts !
think we saints fans need to come back down to earth a little bit. Not saying everyone but a few on here are getting a bit carried away. Maybe all the talk of benjani and vassel has raised the expectations to high. Give the lad a chance. I remember some people slated neal trotman just by lookin at a photo of him before he'd even kicked a ball. Get behind your club and stop bein so negative
Tirau Dan
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10:11pm Wed 28 Jul 10
For years Saints fans have put up with crap from all and sundry and the threads have been full of slaggers from the Boo Brigade.
Tempered level headed optimism amongst fans should be lauded, cheeky arrogance at the mo is splendiferous and should be shouted from the highest hill.
Those worried about aspects of transfers... shouldn't as they should trust the Nicola and his management team to do what is necessary to achieve auto promotion this year! That is not arrogant it is the stated aim of our professional leaders and the fans expect it happen!!
What will be will be
And probably Wemb a lee
Up The Saints.... bet on it!!
Red n White
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10:38pm Wed 28 Jul 10
Rowester
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10:51pm Wed 28 Jul 10
BP wrote:Totally agree, think he has lost his way, warnock wanted him at QPR so would be a welcome addition. AP sees a lad who has played in the prem & Championship so weve got nothing to lose in giving him a go...could be another gem.COME ON YOU REDS
He is a 26 Year old who has played at the highest level. We are in League 1, whether we are favourites or not we are still in league 1. This is exactly the type of player we should be taking a punt on. Id be very surprised if Millwall didnt think he is good enough because he is just the sort of player with Championship experience they need. Sign him up AP.
ali dia
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11:20pm Wed 28 Jul 10
nate4456
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12:46am Thu 29 Jul 10
Tirau Dan
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4:55am Thu 29 Jul 10
nate4456 wrote:Rickie does play provider well hanging back and of course when he does it's still in range of the best boot in England at the mo..
Lambert used to me a cm? Put him there ;) no on a serious note carter could be a good capture but who drops out Spiderman or Deano : O I know I wouldn’t want to make that choice!
Pards plays rotations well with that last half hour. The fresh legs and pace certainly brought results last season.
As well as pure pace he may be looking for solid skilful players that can make a difference on the soggy grounds against determined 11 man defensive teams.
I'd love Saints win the pie pie contests..
Saint Bean
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7:53am Thu 29 Jul 10
franiow
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8:32am Thu 29 Jul 10
frenchsaint
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8:39am Thu 29 Jul 10
This would seem to suggest that non of the 3 are about to leave. Not proof mind you Devoniansaint.
frenchsaint
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8:46am Thu 29 Jul 10
frenchsaint wrote:From what I've seen, read and heard I am now a Get Carter man. Am particularly impressed by his determination to show off his ability. It could backfire after all but HE has confidance that he is good ( and fit)and thats important.
For the eyes of those on here that have been imploring AP to sign Tyson, Moussi or Mcguchan all from Notts.Forest, that they all played in a 3-1 defeat by French club Lyon last night. This would seem to suggest that non of the 3 are about to leave. Not proof mind you Devoniansaint.
PGA-
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8:56am Thu 29 Jul 10
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frenchsaint
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9:31am Thu 29 Jul 10
Any views?
BlandfordSaint
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10:19am Thu 29 Jul 10
BlandfordSaint
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10:24am Thu 29 Jul 10
saints4eva12
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10:38am Thu 29 Jul 10
franiow
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11:25am Thu 29 Jul 10
allsaintsnocurves
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11:41am Thu 29 Jul 10
franiow wrote:I saw that as well. Interesting about Connolly - but I don't know if that's just cos he hasn't chosen his number yet. Number 13 is obviously waiting for Bart to sign the contract. 8 and 11 are conveniently open for a central midfielder and a wide player.
Just seen squad numbers on OS. Why no number for Connolly. Would also be happier if Lallana had a lower number.
SouthamptonLegend
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1:36pm Thu 29 Jul 10
franiow wrote:I was hoping Lallana would be our No. 7 and Lambo No. 9 but Lambert did well in the shirt last season and he knows how much the No. 7 shirt means to the fans which is great!
Just seen squad numbers on OS. Why no number for Connolly. Would also be happier if Lallana had a lower number.
Hopefully the 8 & 11 shirts being available means we should be getting in some more quality. After seeing some footage of Carter I'd happily give him No. 8! Scored some really good goals against top teams in the Prem.
Saints4Eva
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1:44pm Thu 29 Jul 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:Not sure any of the players would have fancied trying to wrestle the No.7 shirt from Rickie (he knows what this number means to Saints fans). Also, perhaps Adam asked to keep the No.20 as he has had this number for some time and perhaps it is lucky for him and he did not want to change.
franiow wrote: Just seen squad numbers on OS. Why no number for Connolly. Would also be happier if Lallana had a lower number.I was hoping Lallana would be our No. 7 and Lambo No. 9 but Lambert did well in the shirt last season and he knows how much the No. 7 shirt means to the fans which is great! Hopefully the 8 & 11 shirts being available means we should be getting in some more quality. After seeing some footage of Carter I'd happily give him No. 8! Scored some really good goals against top teams in the Prem.
Looking forward to watching the lads against Reading on Saturday and hope they put on a good display.
Ajvsaint
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5:37pm Thu 29 Jul 10
The only good thing is there doesnt seem to be too much talk of our best players leaving.
hedge end bob
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5:48pm Thu 29 Jul 10
hedge end bob
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5:51pm Thu 29 Jul 10
Ajvsaint
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6:04pm Thu 29 Jul 10
hedge end bob wrote:Saints will be back in our rightfull position as Kings of the south next season, and arguably later this season if were ripping L1 apart and the skates are fighting for their lives in the Champ.....as for Bournmouth ive got no probs with them, even though theyve kind of taken it upon themselves to make us their rivals..(no disrespect but you,ll never replace Pompey cherries fans)..thats fine but if they finish above us this year....you have my word....i will run around sms naked on the last day of the season!!!! I,m that confident :-)
sorry should read in the ECHO today
ali dia
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7:28pm Thu 29 Jul 10
Aaron1
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8:22pm Thu 29 Jul 10
frenchsaint
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9:38pm Thu 29 Jul 10
Aaron1 wrote:Pardew doesn't DO the signing,he only advises his likes and dislikes. NC does them, so AP hasn't 'mucked up' any signings yet.
i Agree , he would be a good signing , like you said he has played at top level , and can score a cracker now and then , but if you compair him and some of the other midfielders we have been "linked" with , hayden mullins , jamie ward , brian stock ,chris lines , and carter , i would pick carter , because he is younger than some by a margin and has played at top level for a while , also for a FREE! So i hope pardew doesnt muck this one up !
SouthamptonLegend
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11:46pm Thu 29 Jul 10
frenchsaint wrote:Really? I'm not too sure any manager would be happy leaving the signings up to the chairman! I mean no offence but what does NC know about football? It would be like leaving it up to us to sign the players! I think what u mean is AP TELLS NC who he wants so NC can get the money ready!
Aaron1 wrote:Pardew doesn't DO the signing,he only advises his likes and dislikes. NC does them, so AP hasn't 'mucked up' any signings yet.
i Agree , he would be a good signing , like you said he has played at top level , and can score a cracker now and then , but if you compair him and some of the other midfielders we have been "linked" with , hayden mullins , jamie ward , brian stock ,chris lines , and carter , i would pick carter , because he is younger than some by a margin and has played at top level for a while , also for a FREE! So i hope pardew doesnt muck this one up !
frenchsaint
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7:19am Fri 30 Jul 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:It's my opinion that the boot is on the other foot; NC is very much the Boss.
frenchsaint wrote:Really? I'm not too sure any manager would be happy leaving the signings up to the chairman! I mean no offence but what does NC know about football? It would be like leaving it up to us to sign the players! I think what u mean is AP TELLS NC who he wants so NC can get the money ready!Aaron1 wrote: i Agree , he would be a good signing , like you said he has played at top level , and can score a cracker now and then , but if you compair him and some of the other midfielders we have been "linked" with , hayden mullins , jamie ward , brian stock ,chris lines , and carter , i would pick carter , because he is younger than some by a margin and has played at top level for a while , also for a FREE! So i hope pardew doesnt muck this one up !Pardew doesn't DO the signing,he only advises his likes and dislikes. NC does them, so AP hasn't 'mucked up' any signings yet.
If you believe as I do that Southampton FC are GOING PLACES it will be as a direct result of NC's management skills, done on a restricted cashflow within correct business rules; i.e. no excessive borrowings.
I believe that AP is an excellent Manager but I bet that if we are not in a very strong league position come Jan.1st. that there will be 50+ applications from highly qualified men for his job.
And NC will decide who moves in and on.
farehamsaint
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7:41am Fri 30 Jul 10
frenchsaint
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7:49am Fri 30 Jul 10
frenchsaint wrote:Sorry Legend, I don't wish to be a bore but I wanted to give an example of what I think illustrates AP's lack of control in footballing matters.
SouthamptonLegend wrote:It's my opinion that the boot is on the other foot; NC is very much the Boss. If you believe as I do that Southampton FC are GOING PLACES it will be as a direct result of NC's management skills, done on a restricted cashflow within correct business rules; i.e. no excessive borrowings. I believe that AP is an excellent Manager but I bet that if we are not in a very strong league position come Jan.1st. that there will be 50+ applications from highly qualified men for his job. And NC will decide who moves in and on.frenchsaint wrote:Really? I'm not too sure any manager would be happy leaving the signings up to the chairman! I mean no offence but what does NC know about football? It would be like leaving it up to us to sign the players! I think what u mean is AP TELLS NC who he wants so NC can get the money ready!Aaron1 wrote: i Agree , he would be a good signing , like you said he has played at top level , and can score a cracker now and then , but if you compair him and some of the other midfielders we have been "linked" with , hayden mullins , jamie ward , brian stock ,chris lines , and carter , i would pick carter , because he is younger than some by a margin and has played at top level for a while , also for a FREE! So i hope pardew doesnt muck this one up !Pardew doesn't DO the signing,he only advises his likes and dislikes. NC does them, so AP hasn't 'mucked up' any signings yet.
Do you honestly believe it was the correct decision to commence our pre-season with games against Thun and then Sochaux within the first 2 weeks of pre-season.? These are games we should be playing this week AFTER the likes of Farnborough,Sutton and Barnet. I am prepared to bet that AP did not arrange this important footballing matter and that when he heard of them had a quiet mutter under his breath......we'll have to await his memoirs to discover the facts however.
frenchsaint
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8:08am Fri 30 Jul 10
farehamsaint wrote:This post I agree with exactly.
In ALL Football Clubs the Manager identifies the players he would like to bring in and even suggests the transfer fee using his knowledge of the game. He will also be involved in talking to the player to sell the club and its vision. But it is the Chairman the negotiates the money, be it transfer fee or wages. They look after the business side plain and simple. The Manager can identify who he wants but the chairman always has the final say.
I originaly disagreed with Aaron1 saying to AP 'don't muck this one up' when I don't think that he has mucked up yet.!!
SouthamptonLegend
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11:03am Fri 30 Jul 10
frenchsaint wrote:Well yes that's basically what I said. Your post above suggests that NC is running the mafia! lol. I definitely see what you're saying frenchy but I really can't see anyone like Alan Pardew or any manager being told what to do.
farehamsaint wrote:This post I agree with exactly.
In ALL Football Clubs the Manager identifies the players he would like to bring in and even suggests the transfer fee using his knowledge of the game. He will also be involved in talking to the player to sell the club and its vision. But it is the Chairman the negotiates the money, be it transfer fee or wages. They look after the business side plain and simple. The Manager can identify who he wants but the chairman always has the final say.
I originaly disagreed with Aaron1 saying to AP 'don't muck this one up' when I don't think that he has mucked up yet.!!
I think it was a good idea (whoever it was) to take them to Switzerland and play good teams! It puts everything in perspective for them and shows they are not a top team themselves yet and to work much harder to improve. The french and swiz teams were similar standards to the Championships top teams in England and that's what we're aiming to be.
What happened to Tyson signing?? Someone on here claimed he signed last week !! Jokers
Ontario Saint
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12:30pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Supposeably terms could not be arranged with Millwall because they could not be agreed upon with Preston.
Imagine Preston have stated what they want as has Daren Carter and if he plays well against Reading the deal will then be completed.
Just my perception of the situation
ali dia
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7:53pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Aaron1
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12:33am Sun 1 Aug 10
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